Supporting Government Accountability.

[Procrustes Stretched]

There is always lots of talk about politics and government. So I wonder about conservatives and progressives.

I know liberals always support government accountability.

Do others?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

That is the foundation of representative government. Accountable means out the door when you screw up.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

What about holding the politicians responsible?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

What is the distinction?

 

[rightwinger]

What a lame ass poll. Not worth a response

 

[Baruch Menachem]

The interesting thing is just how far off into la la land the OP is, that he thinks the majority of those who opposed him would vote no.

Big Black Dog has a topic asking if liberals could even dream of understanding the other guys perspective. All he got from the liberal side so far were trolls. But the others didn't respond to the concept either.

 

[uscitizen]

Congress should be subject to fvirtually all laws they put on us.
They are exempt from many though. Sexual harrasment for one. LIke that should be a suprise after the page boy scandals and such.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

That is the foundation of representative government. Accountable means out the door when you screw up.

If a government (elected and appointed leaders) break the law...should they be held accountable, in your opinion?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What about holding the politicians responsible?

politicians are held responsible every election. responsibility is not the same as accountability.

politicians are not the government, unless and until they are elected and hold office, or are selected to appointed seats/offices.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What is the distinction?

There are loads of pages on the internet(s) devoted to just this question. For me it is easier to explain a situation where somebody is to be 'held responsible' for something: an action over what the punishment or reward will be, if any, is pending. We know it was their duty or obligation to do something or prevent something. I can hold somebody responsible for something and it can be argued over.

To be 'held accountable' is where somebody is going to be judged and their is no question about an action going to be taken.

We all know people who are responsible for doing crappy things. I say they do not answer the piper or pay back until they have been held accountable. They have to be held to account...paid in full...or settle up.

When somebody is called to account for something there is no question that they have been responsible for something, and now they are going to settle up the debt.

I'm being as vague and unclear about exact situations, because those are where scenarios play, and where the argument can start that eventually becomes the circle jerk.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The interesting thing is just how far off into la la land the OP is, that he thinks the majority of those who opposed him would vote no.

Big Black Dog has a topic asking if liberals could even dream of understanding the other guys perspective. All he got from the liberal side so far were trolls. But the others didn't respond to the concept either.

dearest stupid fuck, do not quit your night job. your ability to foresee or even understand where I am coming from is so bad...

I actually do not have any clue where people stand. If I did I'd be making tons of money from parties interested in such knowledge.

Your inability to understand simple questions, let alone liberalism, is astounding. And I do NOT think you are representative of many who imagine themselves to be conservative.

You sir are the troll. but then again, we all are trolls.

what is your answer? do you think governments should be held accountable? If so, what about the Bush and Clinton admins and their foreign policies?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Congress should be subject to fvirtually all laws they put on us.
They are exempt from many though. Sexual harrasment for one. LIke that should be a suprise after the page boy scandals and such.

you are speaking of things which are black and white. sexua harrassment is a violation of the law and nobody agrees anyone convicted should not be held to account for their actions.