Support basic competancy test for firearms ownership?

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Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.
If we treat guns like we treat cars.....
  • You can sell any gun you own to literally anyone you want without having to go through a licensed dealer, just like a car.
  • No background checks to buy, sell, own or possess any firearm, just like a car.
  • No license needed to buy, own or possess any kind of firearm; only to operate that firearm on public property, just like a car.
  • License is "shall Issue", does not require a background check, but does require 16hr class, knowledge and practical handling/qualification, and has passport quality photo, bio-metric data, description of holder and address, just like a drivers license.
  • Pistol Carry License is good in all 50 states; no state my refuse to honor a lawfully acquired license or otherwise restrict the operation of a lawfully possessed firearm. If someone in farm country wants to bring his legally owned machine gun to downtown Chicago, this has to be allowed, just like a car.
  • All firearms are titled and registered with the local Clerk of Courts, just like cars.
  • A firearm must have at least basic liability insurance in order to be operated on public property, but no insurance if only operated on private property. Different classes of firearm may require different levels of insurance. A gun license for artillery will also require an annual physical, which is the equivalent of a DoT Medical Card for a Class-A CDL.
  • Criminal conviction, even murder, does not stop you from continuing to buy, own or possess any firearm; you are only barred from operating a firearm in public, just like owning a car.
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.
I'll support a basic firearms safety test in order to exercise a constitutional right when we return to literacy tests and property requirements in order to vote.

Fair trade?
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.

Since the right to own a firearm is guaranteed by the US Constitution, putting requirements like this on it is problematic.

However, making such requirements for a carry permits seems like a great idea. They have something similar for many states in order to get a hunting license.
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.
If we treat guns like we treat cars.....
  • You can sell any gun you own to literally anyone you want without having to go through a licensed dealer, just like a car.
  • No background checks to buy, sell, own or possess any firearm, just like a car.
  • No license needed to buy, own or possess any kind of firearm; only to operate that firearm on public property, just like a car.
  • License is "shall Issue", does not require a background check, but does require 16hr class, knowledge and practical handling/qualification, and has passport quality photo, bio-metric data, description of holder and address, just like a drivers license.
  • Pistol Carry License is good in all 50 states; no state my refuse to honor a lawfully acquired license or otherwise restrict the operation of a lawfully possessed firearm. If someone in farm country wants to bring his legally owned machine gun to downtown Chicago, this has to be allowed, just like a car.
  • All firearms are titled and registered with the local Clerk of Courts, just like cars.
  • A firearm must have at least basic liability insurance in order to be operated on public property, but no insurance if only operated on private property. Different classes of firearm may require different levels of insurance. A gun license for artillery will also require an annual physical, which is the equivalent of a DoT Medical Card for a Class-A CDL.
  • Criminal conviction, even murder, does not stop you from continuing to buy, own or possess any firearm; you are only barred from operating a firearm in public, just like owning a car.
If one insists on comparing automobiles with firearms...I like it!
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.

fail

you can drive a car on private property without a license

I would like a competency test before people vote

or post crap on message boards

But Gallantwarrior is correct

I'd love for my CCW to be

1) recognized in all of the USA and canada

2) be able to guns that are more powerful or have a higher rate of speed than any cop car

3) be able to buy guns all over the USA-
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.

Make the potential purchaser show a need for the weapon under consideration, and fear/hatred of Black/Brown people doesn't count.
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.

Make the potential purchaser show a need for the weapon under consideration, and fear/hatred of Black/Brown people doesn't count.


People like you who would subject a constitutional right to a need based test is main reason why I NEED weapons-lots of them and lots of ammo
 
Make the potential purchaser show a need for the weapon under consideration, and fear/hatred of Black/Brown people doesn't count.
Make the potential purchaser show a need for the internet connection under consideration, and making stupid arguments in online forums doesn't count.
 
The State must provide a COMPELLING Interest to withhold or restrict rights protected by the Constitution. One does not have a Constitutional right to vote yet poll taxes and tests are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. You don't like the 2nd Amendment? Get Congress to create an amendment removing it and then get it approved by a majority in 37 States.
 
Can buy all the cars you like if you have the money. But you can't actually drive any of them without a license. So why not somethin gsimilar for firearms ownership? Wanna own a weapon fine, but you have to demonstrate basic competancy first. Safe handling, disassembly and cleaning, basic marksmenship.

but you can't actually drive any of them without a license

actually you can on private property and certain township roads

but on face value

about one in five fatal crashes involves at least one driver who is not licensed
 
The State must provide a COMPELLING Interest to withhold or restrict rights protected by the Constitution. One does not have a Constitutional right to vote yet poll taxes and tests are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. You don't like the 2nd Amendment? Get Congress to create an amendment removing it and then get it approved by a majority in 37 States.

and to legally impose federal gun control they must also pass a second amendment giving congress that power. The use of the commerce clause is one of the most disgusting frauds foisted on the USA by FDR and his pet monkeys in the courts
 

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