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Courts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty tooCourts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty too
Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
Yep, I have said along that Brady knew something. I have also said all along that it was really a nothing issue. Like Notre Dame coach Kelly said. In the NCAA, this wouldn't register. It's not a big advantage one way or another.
This is a CBA issue, in the endless thread with Alex it was brought several times that the punishment was never set out and the worst it would be was a team fine, not a player.
The NFL and Brady have lied through out this case and now the NFL is going to appeal. Pretty stupid, let it go.
Well from a legal standpoint it may be the case, but from a fan's perspective what I saw today was a very different thing. A federal judge just ruled that you can cheat and get away with it. I was raised with my parent's telling me that cheaters never win...well according to judge Berman...yeah actually they do. So I have to wonder why I have been playing it straight all these years and refusing to cheat to get ahead when what was just demonstrated to me is that cheating is ok. Berman even acknowledged that Brady cheated but he said it was ok because nothing had been established beforehand.
For me, I know when something is wrong because it feels wrong. If I have to lie or cover my tracks or hide something I am doing it's because I know I am doing something wrong. My parents raised me to believe that. Tom Brady was apparently raised a very different way and he doesn't have a problem looking himself in the mirror when he lies and cheats. To me that says something about his character. Judge Berman reinforced that todayand so the lesson to me is that I have been a fool all my life and my parents' lesson were wrong. I should be lying and cheating because Berman just said it's ok.
Bet Brady's wife won't feel that way. He destroyed a phone deleting a lot of things I bet she would have taken interest in seeing
Courts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty tooCourts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty too
Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
Yep, I have said along that Brady knew something. I have also said all along that it was really a nothing issue. Like Notre Dame coach Kelly said. In the NCAA, this wouldn't register. It's not a big advantage one way or another.
This is a CBA issue, in the endless thread with Alex it was brought several times that the punishment was never set out and the worst it would be was a team fine, not a player.
The NFL and Brady have lied through out this case and now the NFL is going to appeal. Pretty stupid, let it go.
Well from a legal standpoint it may be the case, but from a fan's perspective what I saw today was a very different thing. A federal judge just ruled that you can cheat and get away with it. I was raised with my parent's telling me that cheaters never win...well according to judge Berman...yeah actually they do. So I have to wonder why I have been playing it straight all these years and refusing to cheat to get ahead when what was just demonstrated to me is that cheating is ok. Berman even acknowledged that Brady cheated but he said it was ok because nothing had been established beforehand.
For me, I know when something is wrong because it feels wrong. If I have to lie or cover my tracks or hide something I am doing it's because I know I am doing something wrong. My parents raised me to believe that. Tom Brady was apparently raised a very different way and he doesn't have a problem looking himself in the mirror when he lies and cheats. To me that says something about his character. Judge Berman reinforced that todayand so the lesson to me is that I have been a fool all my life and my parents' lesson were wrong. I should be lying and cheating because Berman just said it's ok.
The NFL should have handled it honestly also. We went from 11 balls being under inflated to 8 to 5 to 3 or one or who the hell knows. They tried to bully a working agreement. I don't think got away with anything.
Berman said you can't make up rules on the fly against a bargaining agreement. The NFL over reached, even though Brady broke a rule, it doesn't mean the NFL can break a rule. The fine for tampering is $25,000 that should be Brady's fine.
Remember that isn't a blanket statement for everyone, just golden boy. It doesn't apply to everyone else.Courts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty tooCourts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty too
Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
Yep, I have said along that Brady knew something. I have also said all along that it was really a nothing issue. Like Notre Dame coach Kelly said. In the NCAA, this wouldn't register. It's not a big advantage one way or another.
This is a CBA issue, in the endless thread with Alex it was brought several times that the punishment was never set out and the worst it would be was a team fine, not a player.
The NFL and Brady have lied through out this case and now the NFL is going to appeal. Pretty stupid, let it go.
Well from a legal standpoint it may be the case, but from a fan's perspective what I saw today was a very different thing. A federal judge just ruled that you can cheat and get away with it. I was raised with my parent's telling me that cheaters never win...well according to judge Berman...yeah actually they do. So I have to wonder why I have been playing it straight all these years and refusing to cheat to get ahead when what was just demonstrated to me is that cheating is ok. Berman even acknowledged that Brady cheated but he said it was ok because nothing had been established beforehand.
For me, I know when something is wrong because it feels wrong. If I have to lie or cover my tracks or hide something I am doing it's because I know I am doing something wrong. My parents raised me to believe that. Tom Brady was apparently raised a very different way and he doesn't have a problem looking himself in the mirror when he lies and cheats. To me that says something about his character. Judge Berman reinforced that todayand so the lesson to me is that I have been a fool all my life and my parents' lesson were wrong. I should be lying and cheating because Berman just said it's ok.
The NFL should have handled it honestly also. We went from 11 balls being under inflated to 8 to 5 to 3 or one or who the hell knows. They tried to bully a working agreement. I don't think got away with anything.
Berman said you can't make up rules on the fly against a bargaining agreement. The NFL over reached, even though Brady broke a rule, it doesn't mean the NFL can break a rule. The fine for tampering is $25,000 that should be Brady's fine.
Like I said. To those who say crime doesn't pay...Judge Berman assured us today that crime pays plenty. Lie and cheat your heart away, you will no suffer any consequences and those who play it straight are fools.
That's the message I received today
Like I said. To those who say crime doesn't pay...Judge Berman assured us today that crime pays plenty. Lie and cheat your heart away, you will no suffer any consequences and those who play it straight are fools.
That's the message I received today
Courts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty tooCourts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty too
Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
Yep, I have said along that Brady knew something. I have also said all along that it was really a nothing issue. Like Notre Dame coach Kelly said. In the NCAA, this wouldn't register. It's not a big advantage one way or another.
This is a CBA issue, in the endless thread with Alex it was brought several times that the punishment was never set out and the worst it would be was a team fine, not a player.
The NFL and Brady have lied through out this case and now the NFL is going to appeal. Pretty stupid, let it go.
Well from a legal standpoint it may be the case, but from a fan's perspective what I saw today was a very different thing. A federal judge just ruled that you can cheat and get away with it. I was raised with my parent's telling me that cheaters never win...well according to judge Berman...yeah actually they do. So I have to wonder why I have been playing it straight all these years and refusing to cheat to get ahead when what was just demonstrated to me is that cheating is ok. Berman even acknowledged that Brady cheated but he said it was ok because nothing had been established beforehand.
For me, I know when something is wrong because it feels wrong. If I have to lie or cover my tracks or hide something I am doing it's because I know I am doing something wrong. My parents raised me to believe that. Tom Brady was apparently raised a very different way and he doesn't have a problem looking himself in the mirror when he lies and cheats. To me that says something about his character. Judge Berman reinforced that todayand so the lesson to me is that I have been a fool all my life and my parents' lesson were wrong. I should be lying and cheating because Berman just said it's ok.
The NFL should have handled it honestly also. We went from 11 balls being under inflated to 8 to 5 to 3 or one or who the hell knows. They tried to bully a working agreement. I don't think got away with anything.
Berman said you can't make up rules on the fly against a bargaining agreement. The NFL over reached, even though Brady broke a rule, it doesn't mean the NFL can break a rule. The fine for tampering is $25,000 that should be Brady's fine.
Like I said. To those who say crime doesn't pay...Judge Berman assured us today that crime pays plenty. Lie and cheat your heart away, you will no suffer any consequences and those who play it straight are fools.
That's the message I received today
Remember that isn't a blanket statement for everyone, just golden boy. It doesn't apply to everyone else.Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
Yep, I have said along that Brady knew something. I have also said all along that it was really a nothing issue. Like Notre Dame coach Kelly said. In the NCAA, this wouldn't register. It's not a big advantage one way or another.
This is a CBA issue, in the endless thread with Alex it was brought several times that the punishment was never set out and the worst it would be was a team fine, not a player.
The NFL and Brady have lied through out this case and now the NFL is going to appeal. Pretty stupid, let it go.
Well from a legal standpoint it may be the case, but from a fan's perspective what I saw today was a very different thing. A federal judge just ruled that you can cheat and get away with it. I was raised with my parent's telling me that cheaters never win...well according to judge Berman...yeah actually they do. So I have to wonder why I have been playing it straight all these years and refusing to cheat to get ahead when what was just demonstrated to me is that cheating is ok. Berman even acknowledged that Brady cheated but he said it was ok because nothing had been established beforehand.
For me, I know when something is wrong because it feels wrong. If I have to lie or cover my tracks or hide something I am doing it's because I know I am doing something wrong. My parents raised me to believe that. Tom Brady was apparently raised a very different way and he doesn't have a problem looking himself in the mirror when he lies and cheats. To me that says something about his character. Judge Berman reinforced that todayand so the lesson to me is that I have been a fool all my life and my parents' lesson were wrong. I should be lying and cheating because Berman just said it's ok.
The NFL should have handled it honestly also. We went from 11 balls being under inflated to 8 to 5 to 3 or one or who the hell knows. They tried to bully a working agreement. I don't think got away with anything.
Berman said you can't make up rules on the fly against a bargaining agreement. The NFL over reached, even though Brady broke a rule, it doesn't mean the NFL can break a rule. The fine for tampering is $25,000 that should be Brady's fine.
Like I said. To those who say crime doesn't pay...Judge Berman assured us today that crime pays plenty. Lie and cheat your heart away, you will no suffer any consequences and those who play it straight are fools.
That's the message I received today
Courts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty tooCourts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty too
Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
NONE.
Look on the face of everyone else but Patriot fans upon learning of the judges decision
The NFC team will beat the AFC team.
Unless things change then all bets are off.
We are going to kicking asses and taking names, however that saying goes. 
Courts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty tooCourts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty too
Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
Yep, I have said along that Brady knew something. I have also said all along that it was really a nothing issue. Like Notre Dame coach Kelly said. In the NCAA, this wouldn't register. It's not a big advantage one way or another.
This is a CBA issue, in the endless thread with Alex it was brought several times that the punishment was never set out and the worst it would be was a team fine, not a player.
The NFL and Brady have lied through out this case and now the NFL is going to appeal. Pretty stupid, let it go.
Well from a legal standpoint it may be the case, but from a fan's perspective what I saw today was a very different thing. A federal judge just ruled that you can cheat and get away with it. I was raised with my parent's telling me that cheaters never win...well according to judge Berman...yeah actually they do. So I have to wonder why I have been playing it straight all these years and refusing to cheat to get ahead when what was just demonstrated to me is that cheating is ok. Berman even acknowledged that Brady cheated but he said it was ok because nothing had been established beforehand.
For me, I know when something is wrong because it feels wrong. If I have to lie or cover my tracks or hide something I am doing it's because I know I am doing something wrong. My parents raised me to believe that. Tom Brady was apparently raised a very different way and he doesn't have a problem looking himself in the mirror when he lies and cheats. To me that says something about his character. Judge Berman reinforced that todayand so the lesson to me is that I have been a fool all my life and my parents' lesson were wrong. I should be lying and cheating because Berman just said it's ok.
The NFL should have handled it honestly also. We went from 11 balls being under inflated to 8 to 5 to 3 or one or who the hell knows. They tried to bully a working agreement. I don't think got away with anything.
Berman said you can't make up rules on the fly against a bargaining agreement. The NFL over reached, even though Brady broke a rule, it doesn't mean the NFL can break a rule. The fine for tampering is $25,000 that should be Brady's fine.
Like I said. To those who say crime doesn't pay...Judge Berman assured us today that crime pays plenty. Lie and cheat your heart away, you will no suffer any consequences and those who play it straight are fools.
That's the message I received today
Courts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty tooCourts dismissed it but everyone knew OJ was guilty too
Well as I said in the other thread, if you read Berman's decision he didn't vacate the suspension because he thinks Brady is innocent. In fact he acknowledges that Brady is guilty as hell. He vacated the suspension because there was no penalty established by the CBA for that exact offense so Brady was unaware of the possible consequences. That was Berman's primary point. He made secondary points about Goodell acting as an arbitrator on appeal which didn't really give Brady an unbiased judge but that was after he had been found guilty in the first place. Essentially Berman said "yeah he is a cheater, but because you didn't prepare for this beforehand there's nothing you can do about it"
Yep, I have said along that Brady knew something. I have also said all along that it was really a nothing issue. Like Notre Dame coach Kelly said. In the NCAA, this wouldn't register. It's not a big advantage one way or another.
This is a CBA issue, in the endless thread with Alex it was brought several times that the punishment was never set out and the worst it would be was a team fine, not a player.
The NFL and Brady have lied through out this case and now the NFL is going to appeal. Pretty stupid, let it go.
Well from a legal standpoint it may be the case, but from a fan's perspective what I saw today was a very different thing. A federal judge just ruled that you can cheat and get away with it. I was raised with my parent's telling me that cheaters never win...well according to judge Berman...yeah actually they do. So I have to wonder why I have been playing it straight all these years and refusing to cheat to get ahead when what was just demonstrated to me is that cheating is ok. Berman even acknowledged that Brady cheated but he said it was ok because nothing had been established beforehand.
For me, I know when something is wrong because it feels wrong. If I have to lie or cover my tracks or hide something I am doing it's because I know I am doing something wrong. My parents raised me to believe that. Tom Brady was apparently raised a very different way and he doesn't have a problem looking himself in the mirror when he lies and cheats. To me that says something about his character. Judge Berman reinforced that todayand so the lesson to me is that I have been a fool all my life and my parents' lesson were wrong. I should be lying and cheating because Berman just said it's ok.
