Stupid Design

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    eagleseven Quod Erat Demonstrandum

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nqySMvkcw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nqySMvkcw[/ame]

    Why put the entertainment center in the middle of a sewer? :lol:


    Funny but true.
     
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    A Ninja Turtle.
     
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    Were this not such an apt response to the brain dead intelligent design clowns it might go fittingly in Humor.
     
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    I'm sorry, are you under the impression that if intelligent design were true, it would means it would be impossible for any genetic errors and mutations due to chemical and environmental influences during pregnancy or development or as the result of in-breeding over time? Are you for real?

    If anything, this proves exactly what anyone with any science background already knows to be a true fact. Of the types of mutations that show up over time, the vast majority are harmful to the individual. In fact most are lethal with the majority of them killing the individual while still in the developmental stage and nearly all others killing the individual before it is mature enough to reproduce, with many also rendering the individual infertile in the event it were to survive longer. Killing the individual while still immature or rendering it infertile insures it is not passed on to any offspring. What a good idea, huh? How incredibly smart of that totally random and meaningless event of life on earth, huh? If harmful mutations were not nearly all prevented from being passed on to offspring by killing the individual before it is capable of reproducing, then life would actually end up being wiped out in very short order as the result of mutations. The second most common are benign mutations that do nothing good or bad to the individual and the very least common of all are beneficial mutations. There are literally BILLIONS of harmful mutations before the appearance of even a single BENIGN one. To say nothing of the time required for it to become a trait of the entire species itself.

    Given the fact that prior to the Cambrian Explosion life was nothing but worms and sponges and those remained unchanged for at least 23,000 times longer than all the time that has passed since the Cambrian - the likelihood that the accumulation of just beneficial mutations alone explains the Cambrian when nearly every species to exist today or known to have existed all showed up in a very short (geologically speaking) period of time of just 10,000 years -goes right into the "extremely unlikely" column. Come on -nearly every species that ever existed or still exists today all showed up during the very same 10,000 year period as the result of them ALL undergoing the accumulation of RAPID but entirely beneficial mutations all of which meaninglessly occurred in all species simultaneously? Something we have never seen to happen any time before or since although 17 times as much time as those 10,000 years have passed since? Evolution says vision, for instance -was the result of very slow, gradual accumulation over many, many eons of the more than 118 necessary changes to multiple tissues, hormones and structures including the brain for a working visual system and without even one of those parts, it was just useless tissue that did nothing - until the very last necessary mutation RANDOMLY and meaningless occurred in just the right place -and then VOILA -two blind parents gave birth to an offspring with a fully functioning visual system. THAT is what the theory of evolution says happened. The problem is we know it didn't. All body types, all manner of locomotion, reproduction, complex structures and systems such as skeletal, nervous, visual, hormonal etc. -showed up all at once, fully functioning in brand new species that had never been seen prior to this time period and with no fossils ever discovered for even one of them showing they were the result of one species finally achieving the accumulation of just beneficial mutations to become an entirely new species with brand new traits not seen in the species they used to be. Get real. Even the theory of aliens seeding our planet answers the phenomena seen in the Cambrian Explosion far better than evolution.


    The theory is significantly flawed which means we need MORE scientific investigation and MORE scientific research -not LESS. But that would actually require our public schools to stop teaching this theory as if proven fact when it is actually the fairy tale here. Unlike all scientific theories which are always proposed to narrowly explain a specific phenomenon seen in nature -Darwin attempted to explain EVERYTHING with a single theory. So it really should be no surprise to anyone that this theory fails to do that. The idea that he got it all 100% correct right out of the gate is ludicrous -no scientist has ever done that and neither did Darwin. And considering he predicted the fossil record would prove him right by showing that the majority were of "in-betweens" of one species in the process of turning into a completely new species and that not only are the majority no such thing but there isn't even a SINGLE "in-between" for ANY species whatsoever, even Darwin would be forced to admit he got it wrong.
     
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    So your God kills people to prove he's clever?

    Gotchya.

    Perhaps you haven't realized, but evolutionary theory has changed dramatically over the past 200 years, and many of Darwin's ideas were shown to be incorrect.

    Darwin's principle of differentiation by natural selection, however, has stood the test of time. It forms the core of today's evolutionary biology.

    Rather than pretending that biology is still stuck in the 19th century, why don't you learn about modern evolutionary theory?

    No, no it doesn't. We figured that out decades ago...you're still pretending it's the 19th century. When was the last time you read a Biology textbook, 1850?

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    Furthermore, our eyes are inferior to other species. The Mantis shrimp has the most advanced eye structure in the world, and can see a much wider spectrum, with far better resolution, than man.

    Why would your God give shrimp the best eyes?
     
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    Perhaps frazzled is not as evolved as everyone else. Or perhaps it got on of those harmful mutations rendering it too brain damaged to understand modern science.
     
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