Study Indicates HOMOSEXUAL ACTS Shorten Lifespan

[Merlin1047]

They did not as a whole bring the disease here, it was one person who happened to be gay. The virus is no longer strictly homosexual, even if you think that homosexuality is wrong would you deny health care to heterosexual victims, if you make that distinction then whats to stop homosexuals from saying that they are hetero?

If memory serves, I believe that the first known case of AIDS was brought into the country by a bisexual male airline flight attendant. I'm sure that subsequently many other vectors have found their way here.

To answer your question, no, I wouldn't support denial of health care to hetero or homosexuals. But when it comes to AIDS resulting from promiscuity, unprotected sex outside marriage, homosexual conduct or drug use then I don't have a great deal of sympathy for the victims.

Plus I get a little tired of the homosexual community expecting the taxpayer to indemnify them from their reckless conduct.

 

[musicman]

They did not as a whole bring the disease here, it was one person who happened to be gay. The virus is no longer strictly homosexual, even if you think that homosexuality is wrong would you deny health care to heterosexual victims, if you make that distinction then whats to stop homosexuals from saying that they are hetero?

I don't mean to quibble over definition with you, but a virus can scarcely be homosexual or heterosexual. A virus just IS. But, the behavior of the homosexual community at large ensured that this plague would gain a foothold. They were not only promiscuous and irresponsible - they displayed a callous disregard for the well-being of the rest of society. I think that needs to be said, and I'll say it every time I hear someone trying to sweep it under the rug with a statement like, "It's not a gay issue - it's a health issue". The behavior of the homosexual community guaranteed that it would become a health issue.

Your statement reminds me of a man on trial for murdering his parents, but asking the judge for leniency on the grounds that he's an orphan.

 

[alien21010]

Funny, because the vast majority of AIDS cases are heterosexual in Africa (which by far has the largest number of cases in the world).

One of Bush's most forthcoming tenants in his State of the Union speech was to provide aid to Africa for AIDS. Why should we bail them out of their mess, since it is completely preventable? Why Merlin? Or should we just let an entire generation be wiped off the face of the Earth?

Musicman, you have a very warped reality of the situation. It was not the gay community that swept HIV/AIDs under the rug, it was the Reagan administration, who refused to provide ANY funding towards HIV until the very end of the decade. Most in the Reagan administration refused to recognize the disease was anything more than a homosexual plague until a famous heterosexual actor (can't remember the name) died from the disease.

HIV/AIDS would have the same stronghold in Africa without the gay lifestyle there.

 

[MissileMan]

Hey PR! Still gay bashing I see!

Study Indicates Homosexual Acts Shorten Lifespan

This recent study confirms evidence published by FRI in 1993. There, 6,714 obituaries from 16 U. S. homosexual journals over a 12 year span were compared to a large sampling of regular newspaper obituaries.

This info is over 10 years old...advances in medicine have probably changed those figures.

Homosexuals were 116 times more apt to be murdered

Probably beaten to death by intolerant, gay bashing, heterosexuals

18 times more apt to die in traffic accidents.

What possible correlation can there be between someones sexual preference and traffic fatalities?

God’s requirement of monogamous heterosexuality contains great protection against spread of disease.

Tell that to the thousands of heterosexual women in Africa who are being given aids by their husbands.

Sex was designed as an expression of love between a man and woman committed to each other for life.

Which is it, an expression of love. or the means of procreation?

Today there is great national concern over the effects of tobacco. Smoking only shortens life expectancy by a few years, but we discourage it by laws and high taxes.

I think you better recheck your figures....tobacco is responsible for way more death and medical costs than aids

If all your data is correct,however, then you have nothing to worry about. Homosexuals are on the verge of extinction...unless the study is flawed.

 

[musicman]

Funny, because the vast majority of AIDS cases are heterosexual in Africa (which by far has the largest number of cases in the world).

One of Bush's most forthcoming tenants in his State of the Union speech was to provide aid to Africa for AIDS. Why should we bail them out of their mess, since it is completely preventable? Why Merlin? Or should we just let an entire generation be wiped off the face of the Earth?

Musicman, you have a very warped reality of the situation. It was not the gay community that swept HIV/AIDs under the rug, it was the Reagan administration, who refused to provide ANY funding towards HIV until the very end of the decade. Most in the Reagan administration refused to recognize the disease was anything more than a homosexual plague until a famous heterosexual actor (can't remember the name) died from the disease.

HIV/AIDS would have the same stronghold in Africa without the gay lifestyle there.

Well, thanks for clearing up my warped reality of the situation. So, it was actually Ronald Reagan who, dressed as an airline steward, dropped his knickers and engaged in promiscuous homosexual relations in every city in the industrialized world. Then, it was Ronald Reagan who organized the powerful gay lobby in San Francisco in order to thwart the medical profession's perfectly sensible plan to quarantine the four thousand or so early cases of HIV. It was Ronald Reagan who decided that leaving a communicable disease unchecked was preferable to having homosexuality perceived in a less than favorable light.

If attempts to employ common sense and simple concern for innocent human life are hamstrung from the start, it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference how much federal money is - or isn't - thrown at a problem. Every bad thing that happens to irresponsible reprobates is not Ronald Reagan's fault.

 

[Patriot]

Screen your partner and use proper protection.

Problem solved.

Oh, and drive safer.

Are you gay? And how are those bath houses?

 

[nakedemperor]

Are you gay? And how are those bath houses?

What's a bath house?

Are YOU gay?

 

[Patriot]

What's a bath house?

Are YOU gay?

I am shocked that there are dumb fucks among us.....





Gay bathhouse

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bathhouse




Gay bathhouses, also known as (gay) saunas or steam baths (and sometimes called, in gay slang in some regions, "the baths" or "the tubs"), are places where men can go to have sex with other men (note that not all men who visit gay bathhouses consider themselves 'gay'). Bathhouses for women are much more rare, though some men's bathhouses will occasionally have "lesbian" or "women-only" nights.

Bathhouses vary considerably in size and amenities — from small establishments with ten or twenty rooms and a handful of lockers to multi-storey saunas with a variety of room styles or sizes and several steam baths, jacuzzi tubs and sometimes even swimming pools — but nearly all have at least one steam room (or wet sauna), as well as lockers and small private rooms. Unlike at brothels, customers pay only for the use of the facilities; sexual activity, if it occurs, is not provided as a service by staff of the establishment, but is between customers, and no money is exchanged. In fact, nearly all gay bathhouses prohibit or discourage prostitution and ban known prostitutes.

Bathhouses are frequently run 24 hours. There is typically a single customer entrance and exit; the customer can either rent a room — typically consisting of a locker and a single bed (though doubles are sometimes available) — or a locker, for a fixed period, typically from one to twelve hours. After paying, the customer is buzzed through the main door. This system allows establishments to screen potential trouble-makers; many bathhouses refuse entry to those who are visibly intoxicated, or to known prostitutes. In some areas, particularly where homosexuality is illegal, considered immoral, or viewed with hostility, this is a necessary safety precaution. For similar reasons, some bathhouses require the presentation of identification, though the majority do not.

Some bathhouses require customers to purchase yearly memberships and many offer special entry rates to members or to students or other groups. In some countries, bathhouses restrict entrance to men of certain age ranges (apart from the general requirement of being an adult) or physical types, and even perceived nationality or race although in other places this would be considered illegal discrimination. Some bathhouses hold occasional "leather", "underwear" or other theme nights.


Layout and typical amenities

On being buzzed in, the customer receives a (usually white) towel and the key for his room or locker. Many bathhouses also give free condoms and lubricants. Some establishments require a piece of identification or an item of value to be left with the front desk on entry.

Bathhouses are usually dimly lit, and pipe in music via a sound system. They are usually laid out in a circular fashion, or in such a way as to allow or encourage customers to wander throughout the establishment. Rooms are usually grouped together, as are lockers. Bathhouses are frequently decorated with posters of nude or semi-nude men, and sometimes explicit depictions of sex. The heat is kept relatively high.

The customer proceeds to his room or locker where he changes out of his street clothes and wraps a towel around his waist; most bathhouses are clothing optional and some encourage total nudity, but in some bathhouses nudity is forbidden in the common areas of the establishments. While some men may wear underwear or fetish-wear, in most bathhouses it is unusual for customers to remain fully dressed in street clothes. The room or locker key is usually suspended from an elastic band which can be worn around the wrist or ankle. The customer is then free to wander throughout the public areas of the bathhouse, which may include:

group showers
steam rooms (sometimes more than one)
jacuzzi tubs (often located in the steam room)
dry saunas
mazes
dark rooms
"glory holes"
theme rooms or areas
orgy rooms
video areas playing pornography
relaxation areas where non-pornographic movies are shown
café areas where food and/or drinks are served
bars or full restaurants (these are relatively unusual)
tanning booths
gymnasium facilities
dance areas
swimming or lap pools
According to "The History of Gay Bathhouses", in the 1970s bathhouses began to install "fantasy environments" which recreated erotic situations that were illegal or dangerous:

Orgy rooms . . . encouraged group sex, while glory holes recreated [public] toilets, and mazes took the place of bushes and undergrowth [in public parks]. Steam rooms and gyms were reminiscent of the cruisy YMCAs, while video rooms recreated the balconies and back rows of movie theaters. A popular NYC bathhouse called Man's Country provided a full-size model of an Everlast truck where visitors could have sex in the cab or in the rear, which served as an orgy room . . . Man's Country also offered a . . . fake prison cell made of rubber bars (1).
Many bathhouses have small shops selling such items as cigarettes, pornography, sex toys, latex gloves, massage oils and lubricants, razors and shaving cream, aftershave and cologne, toothbrushes, hair products, and related items. Some also sell condoms, shower gel, shampoo and conditioner, but these are usually provided free.

 

[no1tovote4]

Funny, because the vast majority of AIDS cases are heterosexual in Africa (which by far has the largest number of cases in the world).

One of Bush's most forthcoming tenants in his State of the Union speech was to provide aid to Africa for AIDS. Why should we bail them out of their mess, since it is completely preventable? Why Merlin? Or should we just let an entire generation be wiped off the face of the Earth?

Musicman, you have a very warped reality of the situation. It was not the gay community that swept HIV/AIDs under the rug, it was the Reagan administration, who refused to provide ANY funding towards HIV until the very end of the decade. Most in the Reagan administration refused to recognize the disease was anything more than a homosexual plague until a famous heterosexual actor (can't remember the name) died from the disease.

HIV/AIDS would have the same stronghold in Africa without the gay lifestyle there.

The actor's name was Rock Hudson.

http://members.tripod.com/~LMScully1/

AIDS spreads in Africa due to misinformation. Education of the masses in Africa could go a long way towards saving many lives.

In some places in Africa infant rape cases have become almost epidemic in numbers as they believe that having sex with virgins will cure them of STDs! Horrific crimes committed in a desperate attempt to save their own skins.

Education is what they need in Africa and access to prophylactics.

 

[Merlin1047]

Funny, because the vast majority of AIDS cases are heterosexual in Africa (which by far has the largest number of cases in the world).

One of Bush's most forthcoming tenants in his State of the Union speech was to provide aid to Africa for AIDS. Why should we bail them out of their mess, since it is completely preventable? Why Merlin? Or should we just let an entire generation be wiped off the face of the Earth?

Musicman, you have a very warped reality of the situation. It was not the gay community that swept HIV/AIDs under the rug, it was the Reagan administration, who refused to provide ANY funding towards HIV until the very end of the decade. Most in the Reagan administration refused to recognize the disease was anything more than a homosexual plague until a famous heterosexual actor (can't remember the name) died from the disease.

HIV/AIDS would have the same stronghold in Africa without the gay lifestyle there.

I read somewhere that the vectors which transferred AIDS to humans were monkeys. No, for all you dirty-minded preverts, it was probably NOT due to sex with monkeys. Most likely from a bite. AIDS then spread to Europe and then to the US. Initially it was a disease MAINLY among homosexuals. It spread to the heterosexual population through bisexuals, through contaminated blood products in hospitals and through drug abuse (sharing contaminated needles).

As far as your complaint regarding the alleged Reagan neglect of AIDS research under Reagan's administration - I suggest you try to do a little reading and less television.
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200312030913.asp
"As I recall, from 1984 onward — and bear in mind that the AIDS virus was not identified until 1982 — every Reagan budget contained a large sum of money specifically earmarked for AIDS," says Peter Robinson, a former Reagan speechwriter and author of How Ronald Reagan Changed My Life. "Now, people will argue that it wasn't enough," Robinson adds. "But, of course, that's the kind of argument that takes place over every item in the federal budget. Nevertheless, the notion that he was somehow callous or had a cruel or cynical attitude towards homosexuals or AIDS victims is just ridiculous."

In February 1986, President Reagan's blueprint for the next fiscal year stated: "[T]his budget provides funds for maintaining — and in some cases expanding — high priority programs in crucial areas of national interest…including drug enforcement, AIDS research, the space program, nonmilitary research and national security." Reagan's budget message added that AIDS "remains the highest public health priority of the Department of Health and Human Services."

Precise budget requests are difficult to calculate, as online records from the 1980s are spotty. Nevertheless, New York University's archived, hard copies of budget documents from fiscal year 1984 through FY 1989 show that Reagan proposed at least $2.79 billion for AIDS research, education, and treatment. In a Congressional Research Service study titled AIDS Funding for Federal Government Programs: FY1981-FY1999, author Judith Johnson found that overall, the federal government spent $5.727 billion on AIDS under Ronald Reagan. This higher number reflects President Reagan's proposals as well as additional expenditures approved by Congress that he later signed. "

Five BILLION, seven hundred twenty seven million dollars. What would you consider to be a sufficient sum, Buckwheat?

And as far as the AIDS epidemic in Africa? I say send educators and condoms. The rest of the problem is based on sociological factors which we cannot change. The Africans will have to find their own solution for that.

 

[nakedemperor]

I am shocked that there are dumb fucks among us.....

Thanks, now I know what a bath house is. I was really tired of being a dumb fuck.

 

[Joz]

I read somewhere that the vectors which transferred AIDS to humans were monkeys. No, for all you dirty-minded preverts, it was probably NOT due to sex with monkeys.....

Yeah, I heard it could have been ingested, too.
But do you really think so? I think we established in he past that one deviant behavior often opens the door to others. You just don't want to think is was bestiality.

 

[nakedemperor]

Yeah, I heard it could have been ingested, too.
But do you really think so? I think we established in he past that one deviant behavior often opens the door to others. You just don't want to think is was bestiality.

Is there any proof one way or the other? This is conjecture, let's let it go.

 

[Merlin1047]

Yeah, I heard it could have been ingested, too.
But do you really think so? I think we established in he past that one deviant behavior often opens the door to others. You just don't want to think is was bestiality.

Stirring the pot, huh. :bat:

I'll answer you and NE at the same time. It HAD to be from a bite wound. Little monkeys are waaay too small. Chimpanzees and baboons are too fast and too strong. And any attempt at sex with a gorilla would likely be fatal - and not by getting AIDS either.

 

[Joz]

Stirring the pot, huh. :bat:

I'll answer you and NE at the same time. It HAD to be from a bite wound. Little monkeys are waaay too small. Chimpanzees and baboons are too fast and too strong. And any attempt at sex with a gorilla would likely be fatal - and not by getting AIDS either.

I'm not stirring anything. Men have sex with babies so don't give me the 'size' argument. And I didn't say it was consentual, either. All I said is, it's NOT out of the realm of possibility.

 

[nakedemperor]

I'm not stirring anything. Men have sex with babies so don't give me the 'size' argument. And I didn't say it was consentual, either. All I said is, it's NOT out of the realm of possibility.

Why is this important, one way or the other, or relevant? I agree with Merlin that its more LIKELY that it came via a bite, but honestly, does it change anything if it was bestiality?

 

[Merlin1047]

And I didn't say it was consentual, either. All I said is, it's NOT out of the realm of possibility.

I guess it IS possible that a gorilla leaped out of the bushes and ravaged some poor unsuspecting passer-by.

:teeth:

 

[Merlin1047]

Why is this important, one way or the other, or relevant? I agree with Merlin that its more LIKELY that it came via a bite, but honestly, does it change anything if it was bestiality?

Just having a little fun.

 

[Joz]

I guess it IS possible that a gorilla leaped out of the bushes and ravaged some poor unsuspecting passer-by.

:teeth:

You know that's not what I meant.

 

[manu1959]

I guess it IS possible that a gorilla leaped out of the bushes and ravaged some poor unsuspecting passer-by.

:teeth:

hey you may be onto something...what did jane goodahl die of? she was very touchy feely with those gorillas