ST's BP Rantings

[Madeline]

If Old Rocks can figure this out, why can't Holder and the DOJ?

ARREST TONY HAYWARD.​

 

[California Girl]

If Old Rocks can figure this out, why can't Holder and the DOJ?

ARREST TONY HAYWARD.​

Hmmmm..... maybe it's because they actually need slightly stronger evidence than a few lunatics on an internet message board? Or... maybe.... because they'd have to actually extradite him first and the British Government will probably want slightly stronger evidence than the rantings of some airheaded yanks on an internet forum. Or.... maybe..... the US Government isn't stupid enough to arrest anyone for this.... in case, someone asks some questions about the US Government's complicity.

Lots of really good reasons.... but.... please.... don't let that stop you drooling like a bunch of escapees from a mental institution.... The Brits find it really funny.... me too.

 

[gslack]

I'm familiar with these devices. There are so many factors to consider when operating a well 5000 feet below the surface of the ocean. A valve was installed near the base of the well but it was rendered inoperative when the well exploded. Looks like an acoustic switch, which is attached to a valve, would have met with the same result in this instance.

Fucking bullshit, and you know it, PP. The blowout valve was put together with the wrong prints. It was known to be inoperative well before they poured the cement. Yet, with all of that, they still withdrew the drilling mud before the cement was cured, against the advice of the people from Haliburton, who had installed poured the cement.

Not only that, an engineer that worked for BP had already raised a red flag about the inadaquete casing failing to seal with the cement. Yet they still went ahead and withdrew the mud.

This was not an accident. An industrial accident is when something unforeseen creates a disaster. They knew that each of these matters increased the chances of a disaster, yet they continued to pile risk upon risk. By doing that, there was not a risk of a catastrophe, but a certainty of it.

What we have in the Deepwater Horizon blowout is a classical case of criminal negligence. Involving the death of 11 men, and the destruction of a major portion of the Gulf ecology.

Oh bullshit...

Prove any of that tool... Seriously prove one shred of that...

Unbelievable how you just pull shit off a green blog or liberal media and call it factual with no regard at all... or did you pull that out of your ass?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I don't know about you guys but I look at the spillcam and I don't see any lessening of the oil spewing out. Just finished watching the news conference with Thad and Bobbie.....I have absolutely no confidence in anything BP, the government or anyone for that matter...are doing up to this point.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

If Old Rocks can figure this out, why can't Holder and the DOJ?

ARREST TONY HAYWARD.​

Hmmmm..... maybe it's because they actually need slightly stronger evidence than a few lunatics on an internet message board? Or... maybe.... because they'd have to actually extradite him first and the British Government will probably want slightly stronger evidence than the rantings of some airheaded yanks on an internet forum. Or.... maybe..... the US Government isn't stupid enough to arrest anyone for this.... in case, someone asks some questions about the US Government's complicity.

Lots of really good reasons.... but.... please.... don't let that stop you drooling like a bunch of escapees from a mental institution.... The Brits find it really funny.... me too.

We can just pick him up next time he comes to the U.S. to visit. Duh.

 

[ABikerSailor]

didn't bp save $500,000 dollars by not using the newest safety measure out there for deep water holes and if they had, we would not be in this mess? that is a half a million in profit that they would pocket...?

Therein lies a substantial part of the problem. What started out as a theory, ie - that the valve MAY have prevented the spill - has become fact.... It WOULD have stopped the spill.

Fact: The valve had never been tested at that depth and they don't KNOW whether it would have stopped the spill or not.

Now, I suppose that everyone will assume that I agree with BP not having spent money on the valve. In fact, I don't just it because I'm not actually an expert in such things.... however, I would lean towards saying that they should have taken EVERY precaution - including an untested valve..... but.... hindsight is 20/20.

Hey Cali Twit, wanna back up on that one?

The reason that the pressure valves weren't tested at depth is because Halliburton (the company that built them) didn't test them like they were supposed to.

They were supposed to be air pressure tested for 5 full minutes before being sent out as safe. Because of all the regulations that were removed under the Bush admin (as well as letting the MMA's regulation branch and income branch becoming the same department), Halliburton only pressurized them for 30 seconds and then let the pressure bleed off for the next 4 1/2 minutes.

Additionally, Deepwater Horizon and BP wanted to save a half a mil by not installing the sonic shutoff valve. Combine that with the fact that the batteries in the shutoff valve were not working.

Oh yeah........another thing...........wanna explain why BP is telling us TODAY that they've managed to catch 11,000 barrels, and the first estimate FROM BP was only 5,000 barrels per day.

Nope, there is some seriously criminal stuff here, and BP needs to answer, as well as Halliburton and Trans Ocean.

 

[gslack]

didn't bp save $500,000 dollars by not using the newest safety measure out there for deep water holes and if they had, we would not be in this mess? that is a half a million in profit that they would pocket...?

Therein lies a substantial part of the problem. What started out as a theory, ie - that the valve MAY have prevented the spill - has become fact.... It WOULD have stopped the spill.

Fact: The valve had never been tested at that depth and they don't KNOW whether it would have stopped the spill or not.

Now, I suppose that everyone will assume that I agree with BP not having spent money on the valve. In fact, I don't just it because I'm not actually an expert in such things.... however, I would lean towards saying that they should have taken EVERY precaution - including an untested valve..... but.... hindsight is 20/20.

Hey Cali Twit, wanna back up on that one?

The reason that the pressure valves weren't tested at depth is because Halliburton (the company that built them) didn't test them like they were supposed to.

They were supposed to be air pressure tested for 5 full minutes before being sent out as safe. Because of all the regulations that were removed under the Bush admin (as well as letting the MMA's regulation branch and income branch becoming the same department), Halliburton only pressurized them for 30 seconds and then let the pressure bleed off for the next 4 1/2 minutes.

Additionally, Deepwater Horizon and BP wanted to save a half a mil by not installing the sonic shutoff valve. Combine that with the fact that the batteries in the shutoff valve were not working.

Oh yeah........another thing...........wanna explain why BP is telling us TODAY that they've managed to catch 11,000 barrels, and the first estimate FROM BP was only 5,000 barrels per day.

Nope, there is some seriously criminal stuff here, and BP needs to answer, as well as Halliburton and Trans Ocean.

Hey closet case.... HUGGY has been forced to talk to himself in your mutual man-love thread for a few days now, better go and check in bikerbitch....

Only a true POS would resort to calling a woman names like that in a web forum... Whats wrong man, stalking her got you no where so now you have to show your ass? If this is your game, no wonder you spend so much time playing grab ass and talking about homo-cages and gay porn with another man.... LOL, desperate times indeed....

Here is what we think of when we see your post LOL

 

[saveliberty]

Seven different safety measures failed here. So the eighth is going to work for sure? To me, the eighth should have been a relief well. Just install one before you start production. It is the only proven method of stopping this.

 

[HUGGY]

I'm familiar with these devices. There are so many factors to consider when operating a well 5000 feet below the surface of the ocean. A valve was installed near the base of the well but it was rendered inoperative when the well exploded. Looks like an acoustic switch, which is attached to a valve, would have met with the same result in this instance.

Fucking bullshit, and you know it, PP. The blowout valve was put together with the wrong prints. It was known to be inoperative well before they poured the cement. Yet, with all of that, they still withdrew the drilling mud before the cement was cured, against the advice of the people from Haliburton, who had installed poured the cement.

Not only that, an engineer that worked for BP had already raised a red flag about the inadaquete casing failing to seal with the cement. Yet they still went ahead and withdrew the mud.

This was not an accident. An industrial accident is when something unforeseen creates a disaster. They knew that each of these matters increased the chances of a disaster, yet they continued to pile risk upon risk. By doing that, there was not a risk of a catastrophe, but a certainty of it.

What we have in the Deepwater Horizon blowout is a classical case of criminal negligence. Involving the death of 11 men, and the destruction of a major portion of the Gulf ecology.

Oh bullshit...

Prove any of that tool... Seriously prove one shred of that...

Unbelievable how you just pull shit off a green blog or liberal media and call it factual with no regard at all... or did you pull that out of your ass?

Let me tell what stupid is. It is taking a mod deleted post which on it's own merits is bannable and doubly so when said dumb ass uses the deleted rule breaking post for his signature. GAAAAAWWDDDD you are stupid. Why don't you just turn yourself in and cop to ignorance before a mod sees this and bothers to see that Dude edited it and warned the poster known as Rolling Thunder. I repeat...GAAAAWWWWDDD!!!!! you are stupid.

 

[gslack]

Fucking bullshit, and you know it, PP. The blowout valve was put together with the wrong prints. It was known to be inoperative well before they poured the cement. Yet, with all of that, they still withdrew the drilling mud before the cement was cured, against the advice of the people from Haliburton, who had installed poured the cement.

Not only that, an engineer that worked for BP had already raised a red flag about the inadaquete casing failing to seal with the cement. Yet they still went ahead and withdrew the mud.

This was not an accident. An industrial accident is when something unforeseen creates a disaster. They knew that each of these matters increased the chances of a disaster, yet they continued to pile risk upon risk. By doing that, there was not a risk of a catastrophe, but a certainty of it.

What we have in the Deepwater Horizon blowout is a classical case of criminal negligence. Involving the death of 11 men, and the destruction of a major portion of the Gulf ecology.

Oh bullshit...

Prove any of that tool... Seriously prove one shred of that...

Unbelievable how you just pull shit off a green blog or liberal media and call it factual with no regard at all... or did you pull that out of your ass?

Let me tell what stupid is. It is taking a mod deleted post which on it's own merits is bannable and doubly so when said dumb ass uses the deleted rule breaking post for his signature. GAAAAAWWDDDD you are stupid. Why don't you just turn yourself in and cop to ignorance before a mod sees this and bothers to see that Dude edited it and warned the poster known as Rolling Thunder. I repeat...GAAAAWWWWDDD!!!!! you are stupid.

I made the link before that, and Dude deleted it and found it by following my link tool...

now care to explain what is bannable? And while you're at it try and explain your gibberish....

And BTW, what do you care? I can post whatever I like in my signature and the fact the little said such about my mother gives me the right to cite it as stated. The fact Dude edited it after he followed the link in my signature and his response to the poster tells the tale as well...

Now you done crying and obsessing over me douchebag? LOL, I notice you had nothing to say to me until I posted to your little bitch.... Again, why don't you two come out of the closet already, no ones fooled....

BTW, how many pages have you spent posting to yourself now?????

 

[gslack]

HUGGY will come back soon threatening to put me in his HOMO_CAGE..... LOL, imagine two grown ass men (allegedly) sitting around in a thread dedicated to nothing but telling one another how cool they are and how un-cool everyone else is; talking about placing other men in a HOMO-CAGE and gay porn.... Calling other men homosexual themed nicknames, and placing them in cages with other men is about as gay as it gets.... LOL, and not just gay but creepy gay....

Dude you and your bikerbitch make the queereye guys cringe....LOL

Seriously, I bet neither of you have gotten laid since high school and girls matured.. All I can see when you post is this pic....LOL

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Oh bullshit...

Prove any of that tool... Seriously prove one shred of that...

Unbelievable how you just pull shit off a green blog or liberal media and call it factual with no regard at all... or did you pull that out of your ass?

Let me tell what stupid is. It is taking a mod deleted post which on it's own merits is bannable and doubly so when said dumb ass uses the deleted rule breaking post for his signature. GAAAAAWWDDDD you are stupid. Why don't you just turn yourself in and cop to ignorance before a mod sees this and bothers to see that Dude edited it and warned the poster known as Rolling Thunder. I repeat...GAAAAWWWWDDD!!!!! you are stupid.

I made the link before that, and Dude deleted it and found it by following my link tool...

now care to explain what is bannable? And while you're at it try and explain your gibberish....

And BTW, what do you care? I can post whatever I like in my signature and the fact the little said such about my mother gives me the right to cite it as stated. The fact Dude edited it after he followed the link in my signature and his response to the poster tells the tale as well...

Now you done crying and obsessing over me douchebag? LOL, I notice you had nothing to say to me until I posted to your little bitch.... Again, why don't you two come out of the closet already, no ones fooled....

BTW, how many pages have you spent posting to yourself now?????

Don't forget all of his talk about panty sniffing....he seems to want to appear hetrosexual but by his demonstrated actions, I think those speak for themselves.

 

[Intense]

I don't know about you guys but I look at the spillcam and I don't see any lessening of the oil spewing out. Just finished watching the news conference with Thad and Bobbie.....I have absolutely no confidence in anything BP, the government or anyone for that matter...are doing up to this point.

What I don't understand is why install a nozzle or cap that doesn't shut off flow completely???

Where are all of the tankers that can suck up surface oil and process it???

When is Obama going to exit campaign mode and start governing. The Party is over my friend.

 

[saveliberty]

I don't know about you guys but I look at the spillcam and I don't see any lessening of the oil spewing out. Just finished watching the news conference with Thad and Bobbie.....I have absolutely no confidence in anything BP, the government or anyone for that matter...are doing up to this point.

What I don't understand is why install a nozzle or cap that doesn't shut off flow completely???

Where are all of the tankers that can suck up surface oil and process it???

When is Obama going to exit campaign mode and start governing. The Party is over my friend.

The oil is under pressure Intense. They placed a cap over the well. It is not secured (screwed on). I suspect getting some of the oil is a side benefit. Why not a valve capable pipe? Again just a guess, but I think they have concerns about the existing pipe being weakened under pressure from a shutoff.

 

[Intense]

I don't know about you guys but I look at the spillcam and I don't see any lessening of the oil spewing out. Just finished watching the news conference with Thad and Bobbie.....I have absolutely no confidence in anything BP, the government or anyone for that matter...are doing up to this point.

What I don't understand is why install a nozzle or cap that doesn't shut off flow completely???

Where are all of the tankers that can suck up surface oil and process it???

When is Obama going to exit campaign mode and start governing. The Party is over my friend.

The oil is under pressure Intense. They placed a cap over the well. It is not secured (screwed on). I suspect getting some of the oil is a side benefit. Why not a valve capable pipe? Again just a guess, but I think they have concerns about the existing pipe being weakened under pressure from a shutoff.

Why not dig under the surface and blast the pipe with enough CO2, or what ever refrigerant would work under that pressure, to freeze it and stop the flow long enough to repair and secure the breach??? Just a thought.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I don't know about you guys but I look at the spillcam and I don't see any lessening of the oil spewing out. Just finished watching the news conference with Thad and Bobbie.....I have absolutely no confidence in anything BP, the government or anyone for that matter...are doing up to this point.

What I don't understand is why install a nozzle or cap that doesn't shut off flow completely???

Where are all of the tankers that can suck up surface oil and process it???

When is Obama going to exit campaign mode and start governing. The Party is over my friend.

First question is because of pressure from the well.

Second question is because of greed. Tony Hayward doesn't want to send empty ships out, they're too busy making money by sellin goil.

When is Obama going to start governing? He already has.