Struggling to survive

[Seraph]

So what you're saying is: you come from a bunch of snivelling whiners who are upset they don't have AS MUCH disposable income at the moment as hey would like to have.

WTF! Sounds to me like they are having a really hard time, whether you agree with his reasoning for their predicament or not. If you can’t find it in your heart to show some compassion you could at least try not to be such a spiteful bastard.

 

[Shattered]

my guess, is that he is about 15 or 16.....and picks up his feelings on this from his parents...i doubt that you and how you have lived your ups and downs thru the decades will make any impact on him or that you will change his mind....on how he sees it.

Yeah? 15 or 16, huh? My guess is he's in his mid-20's, living at home doing some minimum wage job, since he "gives his parents money every month".

 

[dilloduck]

my guess, is that he is about 15 or 16.....and picks up his feelings on this from his parents...i doubt that you and how you have lived your ups and downs thru the decades will make any impact on him or that you will change his mind....on how he sees it.

I don't believe for a second that he is 15 or 16 nor do I care if I influence him or not. Nice of you to try to mother the poor bastard tho.
Why dont you tell him in your special way that the government won't save anyone from misery.

 

[Care4all]

I don't believe for a second that he is 15 or 16 nor do I care if I influence him or not. Nice of you to try to mother the poor bastard tho.
Why dont you tell him in your special way that the government won't save anyone from misery.

I already did, in my first post to him....did you miss it? Or just not recognize, my special way....? i told him to help out his parents, get another partime job and contribute more to their overhead, and that things will get better...and that no future president is going to make this mess go away, overnight....and that we need to learn to live with less in our lives...

guess, i really lost you on all of that, huh? sheesh, are you just in for an argument or what? lol

 

[dilloduck]

I already did, in my first post to him....did you miss it? Or just not recognize, my special way....? i told him to help out his parents, get another partime job and contribute more to their overhead, and that things will get better...and that no future president is going to make this mess go away, overnight....and that we need to learn to live with less in our lives...

guess, i really lost you on all of that, huh? sheesh, are you just in for an argument or what? lol

you mean right after you blamed Bush by telling half a story ?

there are real people, in the real every day world, that are in a much worse situation, than they were before president bush took office, that's a fact...and unlike what phil gramm has said and also in this thread, Americans work harder than the rest of the western world's workforce and are not whiners for no reason at all...

 

[Care4all]

So what you're saying is: you come from a bunch of snivelling whiners who are upset they don't have AS MUCH disposable income at the moment as hey would like to have.

and the financial industry's whining about their woes, begging for the biggest transfer of wealth in our history??? and giving them a promised TRILLION DOLLARS so far....?

 

[Care4all]

you mean right after you blamed Bush by telling half a story ?

there are real people, in the real every day world, that are in a much worse situation, than they were before president bush took office, that's a fact...and unlike what phil gramm has said and also in this thread, Americans work harder than the rest of the western world's workforce and are not whiners for no reason at all...

cut me a fricking break, IF THAT'S HOW you read that statement......ye protest too much and yur panties get in a wad too easily over your beloved Bush is how i am reading YOUR WHINING....on this....

 

[Alpha1]

This email I received has the cure for this ailing economy Care...
How about it ??? lol



The Birk Economic Recovery Plan


I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it...instead of trickling out
a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned
instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.



Kindest personal regards,

Birk

T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it’s either good for a laugh
or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!

 

[dilloduck]

This email I received has the cure for this ailing economy Care...
How about it ??? lol



The Birk Economic Recovery Plan


I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it...instead of trickling out
a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned
instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.



Kindest personal regards,

Birk

T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it’s either good for a laugh
or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!

There's Care's plan alright !!

 

[Care4all]

This email I received has the cure for this ailing economy Care...
How about it ??? lol



The Birk Economic Recovery Plan


I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it...instead of trickling out
a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned
instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.



Kindest personal regards,

Birk

T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it’s either good for a laugh
or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!

his math is wromg, that would only be 425 bucks each....

it is our money alpha, that they are bailing out these suckers with....it devalues our currency too, and it puts those we initially borrow it from, more in control of our country...and our destiny....

 

[Seraph]

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

200 million into 85 billion = 425

 

[dilloduck]

his math is wromg, that would only be 425 bucks each....

it is our money alpha, that they are bailing out these suckers with....it devalues our currency too, and it puts those we initially borrow it from, more in control of our country...and our destiny....

Then why in the hell dont we take better care of it and do our OWN banking ?

 

[Care4all]

Then why in the hell dont we take better care of it and do our OWN banking ?

git and take care of it!!!!


put us back on the gold standard...it will limit our growth, but at least it will be real, and not monopoly money!

 

[Seraph]

I've often wondered why we can't just borrow directly from the government

 

[dilloduck]

git and take care of it!!!!


put us back on the gold standard...it will limit our growth, but at least it will be real, and not monopoly money!

Tell that to your politicians

 

[Care4all]

Tell that to your politicians

sure, and you tell that to YOUR politicians too!

 

[Shattered]

sure, and you tell that to YOUR politicians too!

Just out of curiousity, with all the "assuming" you're accusing me, and others of doing, aren't you doing the same? Or, in your case, is it referred to as "benefit of the doubt"?

 

[dilloduck]

sure, and you tell that to YOUR politicians too!

I don't have any-- I hate em all.

 

[Care4all]

I don't have any-- I hate em all.

all but Bush....

 

[dilloduck]

all but Bush....

You fuckers just never know when to give up do you ? Show me anywhere that I said I like him !