Strict reading of the 22nd makes Clinton/Clinton possible ticket.

[OohPooPahDoo]

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The 22nd amendment only restricts the number of times someone may be elected President, it does not restrict the number of years they may serve as President or Vice President. You may be elected twice - unless you have already served more than 2 years of another's term, in which case you may only be elected once.

Thus Hillary Clinton could run for President with Bill Clinton as her Vice President. If he had to serve more than 2 years of Hillary's term there is no problem as that fact occurs after his two elections to the office of President.

 

[TNHarley]

I thought the 2nd was about right to bear arms? Maybe I am wrong?

 

[TheOldSchool]

The Clinton days were great days for America. I say the more Clintons the merrier

 

[M14 Shooter]

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The 22nd amendment only restricts the number of times someone may be elected President, it does not restrict the number of years they may serve as President or Vice President. You may be elected twice - unless you have already served more than 2 years of another's term, in which case you may only be elected once.

Thus Hillary Clinton could run for President with Bill Clinton as her Vice President. If he had to serve more than 2 years of Hillary's term there is no problem as that fact occurs after his two elections to the office of President.

The VP has to be qualified to run as President. WJBC is not because he has been President 2x.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The 22nd amendment only restricts the number of times someone may be elected President, it does not restrict the number of years they may serve as President or Vice President. You may be elected twice - unless you have already served more than 2 years of another's term, in which case you may only be elected once.

Thus Hillary Clinton could run for President with Bill Clinton as her Vice President. If he had to serve more than 2 years of Hillary's term there is no problem as that fact occurs after his two elections to the office of President.

The VP has to be qualified to run as President. WJBC is not because he has been President 2x.

The 22nd amendment does not impose any qualifications on the office of President - it merely limits the number of times one may become President by election to the office.

 

[Inthemiddle]

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The 22nd amendment only restricts the number of times someone may be elected President, it does not restrict the number of years they may serve as President or Vice President. You may be elected twice - unless you have already served more than 2 years of another's term, in which case you may only be elected once.

Thus Hillary Clinton could run for President with Bill Clinton as her Vice President. If he had to serve more than 2 years of Hillary's term there is no problem as that fact occurs after his two elections to the office of President.

First of all, the candidates for each office must come from different states. So that's out anyway.

Second, a Vice President Bill Clinton would never be certified by the Senate. He would be deemed constitutionally ineligible. While the wording of the amendment may be ambiguous, the clear and obvious intent was to limit the number of terms a President can serve. The constitution does not allow itself to be side stepped so easily as to position an otherwise ineligible candidate into a position where he or she would become President upon a simple act of political maneuvering, i.e. a President resigning on his or her first day in office to allow the VP to succeed to the office for which he was unable to be elected in his own right.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The 22nd amendment only restricts the number of times someone may be elected President, it does not restrict the number of years they may serve as President or Vice President. You may be elected twice - unless you have already served more than 2 years of another's term, in which case you may only be elected once.

Thus Hillary Clinton could run for President with Bill Clinton as her Vice President. If he had to serve more than 2 years of Hillary's term there is no problem as that fact occurs after his two elections to the office of President.

First of all, the candidates for each office must come from different states. So that's out anyway.

Bill can move back to Arkansas. Problem solved.

Second, a Vice President Bill Clinton would never be certified by the Senate. He would be deemed constitutionally ineligible. While the wording of the amendment may be ambiguous, the clear and obvious intent was to limit the number of terms a President can serve.

But its not ambiguous. It clearly only limits the number of times one may be elected to the office.

The constitution does not allow itself to be side stepped so easily as to position an otherwise ineligible candidate into a position where he or she would become President upon a simple act of political maneuvering, i.e. a President resigning on his or her first day in office to allow the VP to succeed to the office for which he was unable to be elected in his own right.

Its not a side-step. Clinton is not ineligible to the office of Vice President. He is at least 35 years of age and a natural born citizen and thus eligible to the office of President and Vice President - he just may not be elected to the office of President.

 

[pinqy]

The 22nd amendment only restricts the number of times someone may be elected President, it does not restrict the number of years they may serve as President or Vice President. You may be elected twice - unless you have already served more than 2 years of another's term, in which case you may only be elected once.

Thus Hillary Clinton could run for President with Bill Clinton as her Vice President. If he had to serve more than 2 years of Hillary's term there is no problem as that fact occurs after his two elections to the office of President.

The VP has to be qualified to run as President. WJBC is not because he has been President 2x.

The 22nd amendment does not impose any qualifications on the office of President - it merely limits the number of times one may become President by election to the office.

Ammendment XII

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Now you're claiming that the 22nd only makes a person ineligible to be elected, not to hold the office, but that's frankly silly. The reasonable interpretation is that if someone is not eligible to be elected President then they are not eligible to be elected Vice President since the whole purpose of the 12th ammendment was elections.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The VP has to be qualified to run as President. WJBC is not because he has been President 2x.

The 22nd amendment does not impose any qualifications on the office of President - it merely limits the number of times one may become President by election to the office.

Ammendment XII

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Now you're claiming that the 22nd only makes a person ineligible to be elected, not to hold the office, but that's frankly silly. The reasonable interpretation is that if someone is not eligible to be elected President then they are not eligible to be elected Vice President since the whole purpose of the 12th ammendment was elections.

Zactly.

/discussion

 

[Avatar4321]

The VP has to be qualified to run as President. WJBC is not because he has been Preside

nt 2x.

The 22nd amendment does not impose any qualifications on the office of President - it merely limits the number of times one may become President by election to the office.

You act as if the 22nd is the only amendmen that governs the issue of who is eligible to be President or Vice President.

So unless we are talking about Hillary and Chelsea running on a ticket, we cannot legally see a Clinton/Clinton ticket. (Atleast not with the same Clinton family).

Bill is ineligible for two reason:

1) Any selected Vice President is required to meet the requirements to be President. He is ineligible to be President because of the 22nd amendment. And thus he is ineligible for Vice President as well.

2) The President and Vice President must be residents of separate states. Unless something has changed in Bill and Hillary's relationship, they still live together (even if they travel alot).

 

[DiamondDave]

Another OoooPoopyPoo thread exposing his fucking ignorance... LOL

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The VP has to be qualified to run as President. WJBC is not because he has been President 2x.

The 22nd amendment does not impose any qualifications on the office of President - it merely limits the number of times one may become President by election to the office.

Ammendment XII

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Now you're claiming that the 22nd only makes a person ineligible to be elected, not to hold the office, but that's frankly silly.[.quote]
Silly or not that's exactly what it says.

The reasonable interpretation is that if someone is not eligible to be elected President then they are not eligible to be elected Vice President since the whole purpose of the 12th ammendment was elections.

That's certainly not reasonable if we want to stick with the meaning of what the words are. The 22nd makes no mention of eligibility to the office, it only restricts the number of elections to the office one may have. That's what the words say and mean.

 

[konradv]

I thought the 2nd was about right to bear arms? Maybe I am wrong?

It was a misspelling. It's the right to "bare" arms. It was actually an anti-Puritan measure, not an invitation to provision your own private army.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

1) Any selected Vice President is required to meet the requirements to be President. He is ineligible to be President because of the 22nd amendment. And thus he is ineligible for Vice President as well.

He is NOT inelgible to be President, the 22nd amendment does not say he may not be President - it only says he may not be ELECTED President. READ the amendement.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President....

It does not say "no person shall BE the President or no person shall BECOME President" it says no person shall be ELECTED President. The restriction is only on what people may be ELECTED President - not what people may hold the office of President.

2) The President and Vice President must be residents of separate states. Unless something has changed in Bill and Hillary's relationship, they still live together (even if they travel alot).

Bill would have to move to a different state - but not because the President and VP must be from separate states. An individual elector must choose to candidates from different states - but that doesn't mean the President and Vice President can't be from the same state. It would be unlikely - which is why Bill must move to a different state - but its not impossible. Suppose the Republican Presidential candidate and the Democratic Vice Presidential candidate are from the same state and the election ends in a 270-270 tie. The House may still choose the Republican PResidential candidate and the Senate the Democratic Vice Presidential candidate even though the are from the same state.

 

[Inthemiddle]

That's certainly not reasonable if we want to stick with the meaning of what the words are. The 22nd makes no mention of eligibility to the office, it only restricts the number of elections to the office one may have. That's what the words say and mean.

So you really mean to suggest that the intent of the 22nd amendment was to limit only a person running for the office, while leaving him eternally qualified to hold the office via succession from other offices?

 

[pinqy]

The 22nd amendment does not impose any qualifications on the office of President - it merely limits the number of times one may become President by election to the office.

Ammendment XII
Now you're claiming that the 22nd only makes a person ineligible to be elected, not to hold the office, but that's frankly silly.

Silly or not that's exactly what it says.

The reasonable interpretation is that if someone is not eligible to be elected President then they are not eligible to be elected Vice President since the whole purpose of the 12th ammendment was elections.

That's certainly not reasonable if we want to stick with the meaning of what the words are. The 22nd makes no mention of eligibility to the office, it only restricts the number of elections to the office one may have. That's what the words say and mean.

Read the 12th again...."But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." Bill Clinton is constitutionally ineligible to be elected to the office of President. True that's not the only way (as Gerald Ford would attest to), but all it takes is one way to be ineligible.

So, since under the 22nd he is constitutionally ineligible to be President through election, then under the 12 he is ineligible to be Vice President in any way either. One ineligibility is all it takes.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Ammendment XII
Now you're claiming that the 22nd only makes a person ineligible to be elected, not to hold the office, but that's frankly silly.

Silly or not that's exactly what it says.

The reasonable interpretation is that if someone is not eligible to be elected President then they are not eligible to be elected Vice President since the whole purpose of the 12th ammendment was elections.

That's certainly not reasonable if we want to stick with the meaning of what the words are. The 22nd makes no mention of eligibility to the office, it only restricts the number of elections to the office one may have. That's what the words say and mean.

Read the 12th again...."But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." Bill Clinton is constitutionally ineligible to be elected to the office of President.

He's over 35 and a natural born citizen. So no, he's NOT ineligible to the office of President. He just may not attain the office by election, per the 22nd.

So, since under the 22nd he is constitutionally ineligible to be President through election

The 22nd amendment does not say anything about eligibility to the office, it only places restrictions on the number of times one may be ELECTED to the office. You're reading something that is not there.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

That's certainly not reasonable if we want to stick with the meaning of what the words are. The 22nd makes no mention of eligibility to the office, it only restricts the number of elections to the office one may have. That's what the words say and mean.

So you really mean to suggest that the intent of the 22nd amendment was to limit only a person running for the office, while leaving him eternally qualified to hold the office via succession from other offices?

No, I mean to suggest that the meaning of the 22nd amendment only limits the number of times someone may be elected to the office, as that is literally what it says.

 

[pinqy]

Silly or not that's exactly what it says.



That's certainly not reasonable if we want to stick with the meaning of what the words are. The 22nd makes no mention of eligibility to the office, it only restricts the number of elections to the office one may have. That's what the words say and mean.

Read the 12th again...."But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." Bill Clinton is constitutionally ineligible to be elected to the office of President.

He's over 35 and a natural born citizen. So no, he's NOT ineligible to the office of President.

He is ineligible to the office through election. That is an ineligibility.

So, since under the 22nd he is constitutionally ineligible to be President through election

The 22nd amendment does not say anything about eligibility to the office, it only places restrictions on the number of times one may be ELECTED to the office. You're reading something that is not there.

If he is inelgible to be elected, that is an ineligibility.

Try this: There are 2 ways to become President: through election (that's including through Congress in case of lack of majority) or through Succession.

The 12th Ammendment says that if you cannot become President (and it does not specify which manner) then you cannot become Vice President. Note that it does not say that if you can become President then you can become Vice President.

So because Clinton has ONE ineligibility to become President... that he cannot be elected...that is enough for the 12th ammendment.

One more time? Is Clinton ineligible in any way to become President? Yes, he cannot become President through election. Therefore, under the 12th ammendment since has at least one way that he is ineligible to the Presidency, he is ineligible to the Vice-Presidency as well.

 

[slackjawed]

Given the past, don't you think Hillary would get a vp she could trust? if she were to run that is.