Stop The Fear & Hate: America's Anti-Immigration Policies

[Procrustes Stretched]

All you Italian-Americans and others who spring from Southern and Eastern European stock, should be very careful about how you approach immigration laws and your reasoning for doing so. Some of the laws we say today, we want enforced, were the products of hatred towards your parents and their parents...

You should be very careful in your arguments. Not the ones you post publicly, but the ones you have within yourselves.

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The Immigration Act of 1924

Some of the law's strongest supporters were influenced by Madison Grant and his 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race. Grant was a eugenicist and an advocate of the racial hygiene theory. His data purported to show the superiority of the founding Northern European races. But most proponents of the law were rather concerned with upholding an ethnic status quo and avoiding competition with foreign workers.[2]

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The Passing of the Great Race

The Passing of The Great Race; or, The racial basis of European history was an influential book of scientific racism written by the American eugenicist, lawyer, and amateur anthropologist Madison Grant in 1916. The book was very influential in United States during the interwar period, going through many reprintings and selling 1,600,000 copies in the United States alone by 1937. The book put forward Grant's theory of "Nordic superiority" and argued for a strong eugenics program in order to save the waning "Nordics" from inundation of other race types. Grant's propositions to create a strong eugenics program and for the "Nordic" population to be masters of the other races were controversial at the time and now considered extremely unethical and dangerous.

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The act was strongly supported by well-known union leader and founder of the AFL, Samuel Gompers.[3] Gompers was a Jewish immigrant, and uninterested in the accusations by many Jews that the quotas were based on anti-Semitism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

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ya'll ain't nordic.

 

[2Parties]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

All you Italian-Americans and others who spring from Southern and Eastern European stock, should be very careful about how you approach immigration laws and your reasoning for doing so. Some of the laws we say today, we want enforced, were the products of hatred towards your parents and their parents...

You should be very careful in your arguments. Not the ones you post publicly, but the ones you have within yourselves.

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The Immigration Act of 1924

Some of the law's strongest supporters were influenced by Madison Grant and his 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race. Grant was a eugenicist and an advocate of the racial hygiene theory. His data purported to show the superiority of the founding Northern European races. But most proponents of the law were rather concerned with upholding an ethnic status quo and avoiding competition with foreign workers.[2]

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The Passing of the Great Race

The Passing of The Great Race; or, The racial basis of European history was an influential book of scientific racism written by the American eugenicist, lawyer, and amateur anthropologist Madison Grant in 1916. The book was very influential in United States during the interwar period, going through many reprintings and selling 1,600,000 copies in the United States alone by 1937. The book put forward Grant's theory of "Nordic superiority" and argued for a strong eugenics program in order to save the waning "Nordics" from inundation of other race types. Grant's propositions to create a strong eugenics program and for the "Nordic" population to be masters of the other races were controversial at the time and now considered extremely unethical and dangerous.

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The act was strongly supported by well-known union leader and founder of the AFL, Samuel Gompers.[3] Gompers was a Jewish immigrant, and uninterested in the accusations by many Jews that the quotas were based on anti-Semitism. Immigration Act of 1924 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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ya'll ain't nordic.

Lets just open our borders and let any one in. Terrorist, drug dealer, murderer, 20 MILLION workers we can not afford. let everyone in.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

Fears about the browning of America have always been around. Shit, there are times I've been susceptible to the fear. It's irrational, but it exists.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

All you Italian-Americans and others who spring from Southern and Eastern European stock, should be very careful about how you approach immigration laws and your reasoning for doing so. Some of the laws we say today, we want enforced, were the products of hatred towards your parents and their parents...

You should be very careful in your arguments. Not the ones you post publicly, but the ones you have within yourselves.

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The Immigration Act of 1924

Some of the law's strongest supporters were influenced by Madison Grant and his 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race. Grant was a eugenicist and an advocate of the racial hygiene theory. His data purported to show the superiority of the founding Northern European races. But most proponents of the law were rather concerned with upholding an ethnic status quo and avoiding competition with foreign workers.[2]

---

The Passing of the Great Race

The Passing of The Great Race; or, The racial basis of European history was an influential book of scientific racism written by the American eugenicist, lawyer, and amateur anthropologist Madison Grant in 1916. The book was very influential in United States during the interwar period, going through many reprintings and selling 1,600,000 copies in the United States alone by 1937. The book put forward Grant's theory of "Nordic superiority" and argued for a strong eugenics program in order to save the waning "Nordics" from inundation of other race types. Grant's propositions to create a strong eugenics program and for the "Nordic" population to be masters of the other races were controversial at the time and now considered extremely unethical and dangerous.

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The act was strongly supported by well-known union leader and founder of the AFL, Samuel Gompers.[3] Gompers was a Jewish immigrant, and uninterested in the accusations by many Jews that the quotas were based on anti-Semitism. Immigration Act of 1924 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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ya'll ain't nordic.

Lets just open our borders and let any one in. Terrorist, drug dealer, murderer, 20 MILLION workers we can not afford. let everyone in.

Here you go again, making up an argument and winning against yourself.

It's all about the reasoning and arguments used. I support tough enforcement of the border. I do not support racist arguments for laws.

 

[jeffrockit]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

That is all they/we need, as we are a country of laws. Why is it wrong to enforce our laws? I realize many feel the need for political correctness but laws are laws and unless it is changed, we are supposed to follow. You may not like the law, but that's the price of admission to the USA.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

That is all they/we need, as we are a country of laws. Why is it wrong to enforce our laws? I realize many feel the need for political correctness but laws are laws and unless it is changed, we are supposed to follow. You may not like the law, but that's the price of admission to the USA.

Nothing wrong with following laws. On;y how and why one follows the law is of concern. Maybe we should set up drunk driving stops outside every restaurant and bar near a highway...test everyone who comes out of a bar or restaurant. It would save lives.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Is the Tea party returning to it's racist roots by taking on Coolidge as it's national hero symbol?

"America must be kept American. Biological laws show . . . that Nordics deteriorate when mixed with other races." -Tea Party hero talking about Italians and other southern Europeans, and eastern Europeans.

 

[editec]

Yup.

The older immigrants' stock tended to think the newer immigrants were inferior and a threat to their economically, too.

Prohibition was partly a reaction to recent immigrants and affront directed at the more recent immigrants.

Jews and Roman Catholics needed wine for their religious activities therefore many of our grandfathers (or great grandfathers for you kids) were home style bootleggers much like many of us now are growers of pot for our personal use.

 

[LilOlLady]

Those who support illegal immigration are anti-america, fear mongering and hateful and mean spirited.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Those who support illegal immigration are anti-america, fear mongering and hateful and mean spirited.

I don't personally know anyone who supports illegal immigration. I know they're out there. I've see a few of them posing for the cameras.

 

[Sky Dancer]

All you Italian-Americans and others who spring from Southern and Eastern European stock, should be very careful about how you approach immigration laws and your reasoning for doing so. Some of the laws we say today, we want enforced, were the products of hatred towards your parents and their parents...

You should be very careful in your arguments. Not the ones you post publicly, but the ones you have within yourselves.

---

The Immigration Act of 1924

Some of the law's strongest supporters were influenced by Madison Grant and his 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race. Grant was a eugenicist and an advocate of the racial hygiene theory. His data purported to show the superiority of the founding Northern European races. But most proponents of the law were rather concerned with upholding an ethnic status quo and avoiding competition with foreign workers.[2]

---

The Passing of the Great Race

The Passing of The Great Race; or, The racial basis of European history was an influential book of scientific racism written by the American eugenicist, lawyer, and amateur anthropologist Madison Grant in 1916. The book was very influential in United States during the interwar period, going through many reprintings and selling 1,600,000 copies in the United States alone by 1937. The book put forward Grant's theory of "Nordic superiority" and argued for a strong eugenics program in order to save the waning "Nordics" from inundation of other race types. Grant's propositions to create a strong eugenics program and for the "Nordic" population to be masters of the other races were controversial at the time and now considered extremely unethical and dangerous.

--
The act was strongly supported by well-known union leader and founder of the AFL, Samuel Gompers.[3] Gompers was a Jewish immigrant, and uninterested in the accusations by many Jews that the quotas were based on anti-Semitism. Immigration Act of 1924 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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ya'll ain't nordic.

Lets just open our borders and let any one in. Terrorist, drug dealer, murderer, 20 MILLION workers we can not afford. let everyone in.

Learn to wear shoes for your tender feet. It's more efficient than trying to cover the whole earth with leather.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

All you Italian-Americans and others who spring from Southern and Eastern European stock, should be very careful about how you approach immigration laws and your reasoning for doing so. Some of the laws we say today, we want enforced, were the products of hatred towards your parents and their parents...

You should be very careful in your arguments. Not the ones you post publicly, but the ones you have within yourselves.

---

The Immigration Act of 1924

Some of the law's strongest supporters were influenced by Madison Grant and his 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race. Grant was a eugenicist and an advocate of the racial hygiene theory. His data purported to show the superiority of the founding Northern European races. But most proponents of the law were rather concerned with upholding an ethnic status quo and avoiding competition with foreign workers.[2]

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The Passing of the Great Race

The Passing of The Great Race; or, The racial basis of European history was an influential book of scientific racism written by the American eugenicist, lawyer, and amateur anthropologist Madison Grant in 1916. The book was very influential in United States during the interwar period, going through many reprintings and selling 1,600,000 copies in the United States alone by 1937. The book put forward Grant's theory of "Nordic superiority" and argued for a strong eugenics program in order to save the waning "Nordics" from inundation of other race types. Grant's propositions to create a strong eugenics program and for the "Nordic" population to be masters of the other races were controversial at the time and now considered extremely unethical and dangerous.

--
The act was strongly supported by well-known union leader and founder of the AFL, Samuel Gompers.[3] Gompers was a Jewish immigrant, and uninterested in the accusations by many Jews that the quotas were based on anti-Semitism. Immigration Act of 1924 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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ya'll ain't nordic.

Lets just open our borders and let any one in. Terrorist, drug dealer, murderer, 20 MILLION workers we can not afford. let everyone in.

Learn to wear shoes for your tender feet. It's more efficient than trying to cover the whole earth with leather.

 

[Bullfighter]

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Lets just open our borders and let any one in. Terrorist, drug dealer, murderer, 20 MILLION workers we can not afford. let everyone in.

Isn't that the official Obama policy? Americans bad, everybody else good.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

[
Lets just open our borders and let any one in. Terrorist, drug dealer, murderer, 20 MILLION workers we can not afford. let everyone in.

Isn't that the official Obama policy? Americans bad, everybody else good.

what world do you reside on?

 

[2Parties]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

That is all they/we need, as we are a country of laws. Why is it wrong to enforce our laws? I realize many feel the need for political correctness but laws are laws and unless it is changed, we are supposed to follow. You may not like the law, but that's the price of admission to the USA.

There are way too many laws and way too many laws that are contradictory and selectively enforced. The laws themselves create a double standard where government itself doesn't have to follow the laws they create. This creates lawlessness, oppression, and political battles. Who gets thrown in prison, who has to follow the law, and who is protected has nothing to do with right and wrong and everything to do with political connections.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

That is all they/we need, as we are a country of laws. Why is it wrong to enforce our laws? I realize many feel the need for political correctness but laws are laws and unless it is changed, we are supposed to follow. You may not like the law, but that's the price of admission to the USA.

There are way too many laws and way too many laws that are contradictory and selectively enforced. The laws themselves create a double standard where government itself doesn't have to follow the laws they create. This creates lawlessness, oppression, and political battles. Who gets thrown in prison, who has to follow the law, and who is protected has nothing to do with right and wrong and everything to do with political connections.

Welcome to the real world.

 

[AmericanFirst]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

That is all they/we need, as we are a country of laws. Why is it wrong to enforce our laws? I realize many feel the need for political correctness but laws are laws and unless it is changed, we are supposed to follow. You may not like the law, but that's the price of admission to the USA.

Nothing wrong with following laws. On;y how and why one follows the law is of concern. Maybe we should set up drunk driving stops outside every restaurant and bar near a highway...test everyone who comes out of a bar or restaurant. It would save lives.

Okay, lets do it. It probably would save lives and trouble. The fact is illegal immigration is ILLEGAL kick them out, when they can come in legally welcome.

 

[Stephanie]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

Fears about the browning of America have always been around. Shit, there are times I've been susceptible to the fear. It's irrational, but it exists.

You are on friggen idiot. We are not AGAINST Legal immigration. and this CRAP about BROWN PEOPLE is laughable. first with you guys it was BLACK PEOPLE.
And just to clue in. WE ARE ALL AMERCIANS, not hyphenated Americans. no matter how many times you idiots try to DIVIDE US.
MANY people risked life to come here so they could become LEGAL AMERCIANS.

once people stop falling for this game, the better off we will ALL BE.

 

[Nate]

I honestly do not believe that most of those supporting immigration laws has anything to do with hatred. It has mostly to do with fear and entitlement, as well as an obsession with following laws created by politicians. They have a fear of lower wages and they believe they are entitled to a certain wage and work. In that sense they are really no different than union folks as they believe they should be able to use government force to stomp out competition. They really have little knowledge of free markets but they will be the first one to shout and cry about how Obama is socialist.

The second problem is probably a larger one. They think "It's the law" is some miraculous retort when someone makes a valid point. Seriously? That's all they got?

Fears about the browning of America have always been around. Shit, there are times I've been susceptible to the fear. It's irrational, but it exists.

You are on friggen idiot. We are not AGAINST Legal immigration. and this CRAP about BROWN PEOPLE is laughable. first with you guys it was BLACK PEOPLE.
And just to clue in. WE ARE ALL AMERCIANS, not hyphenated Americans. no matter how many times you idiots try to DIVIDE US.

once people stop falling for this game, the better off we will ALL BE.

Will never happen Stephanie for it's the only argument they have to stand on. Some of the most patrotic people I've had the pleasure to meet were "brown" people and I am proud to call them my brother/sister!