Stop selling ethanol and see what happens

[KissMy]

There is no correlation between ethanol production & the size of the GOM dead zone.

Here is the actual data from NOAA & the EIA. Since you want to be a neg repping butt-hurt sissy-bed-wetter about it. You can go fish for your own links.

Dead Zone Area with Ethanol Production Totals.
2010 - 6564 square miles - 13,230,000,000 gallons ethanol
2009 - 3000 square miles - 10,758,258,000 gallons ethanol
2008 - 7988 square miles - 9,000,000,000 gallons ethanol
2007 - 7903 square miles - 6,500,000,000 gallons ethanol
2006 - 6662 square miles - 4,855,000,000 gallons ethanol
2005 - 4564 square miles - 3,904,000,000 gallons ethanol
2004 - 5800 square miles - 3,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
2003 - 3220 square miles - 2,800,000,000 gallons ethanol
2002 - 8484 square miles - 2,130,000,000 gallons ethanol
2001 - 8006 square miles - 1,770,000,000 gallons ethanol
2000 - 1750 square miles - 1,603,000,000 gallons ethanol
1999 - 7778 square miles - 1,470,000,000 gallons ethanol
1998 - 4902 square miles - 1,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
1997 - 6110 square miles - 1,300,000,000 gallons ethanol
1996 - 6846 square miles - 1,100,000,000 gallons ethanol
1995 - 7032 square miles - 1,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
1994 - 6403 square miles - 1,350,000,000 gallons ethanol
1993 - 6811 square miles - 1,200,000,000 gallons ethanol

You mean neg repping like you did earlier in the thread ? Stop being such a sniveling little pussy.

Daveman negged me saying I lied when I clearly did not. So I negged his ass back because the facts clearly prove he is the liar just as you were when I negged you. Then he PMed me back with the quote below. That is what I was refering to in my post.

You sure are a butthurt little sissy bedwetter, aren't you?

You sissy's need to get your facts straight. Farmers no longer not just blindly throw fertilizer, herbicide, pesticide & seed at the fields just to watch the rain wash it down the river. They now apply it only when needed & as needed after the crop is growing. Only after they see a good stand of corn & conditions are right do they apply chemicals as needed. Also fewer farmers till their soil to prevent it & the chemicals in it from washing into streams & rivers. This also greatly reduces the amount of fuel used by farmers. Turning over & leveling out the top foot of a large portion of the Earth's surface every year was a huge waste of resources.

Corn yields nearly double with less fertilizer use

In 1980, farmers grew 6.64 billion bushels of corn using 3.9 pounds of nutrients (nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium) for each bushel and in 2010 they grew 12.45 billion bushels using 1.6 pounds of nutrients per bushel produced. In total, this represents an 87.5 percent increase in production with 4 percent fewer nutrients during that same timeframe.

 

[daveman]

There is no correlation between ethanol production & the size of the GOM dead zone.

Here is the actual data from NOAA & the EIA. Since you want to be a neg repping butt-hurt sissy-bed-wetter about it. You can go fish for your own links.

Dead Zone Area with Ethanol Production Totals.
2010 - 6564 square miles - 13,230,000,000 gallons ethanol
2009 - 3000 square miles - 10,758,258,000 gallons ethanol
2008 - 7988 square miles - 9,000,000,000 gallons ethanol
2007 - 7903 square miles - 6,500,000,000 gallons ethanol
2006 - 6662 square miles - 4,855,000,000 gallons ethanol
2005 - 4564 square miles - 3,904,000,000 gallons ethanol
2004 - 5800 square miles - 3,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
2003 - 3220 square miles - 2,800,000,000 gallons ethanol
2002 - 8484 square miles - 2,130,000,000 gallons ethanol
2001 - 8006 square miles - 1,770,000,000 gallons ethanol
2000 - 1750 square miles - 1,603,000,000 gallons ethanol
1999 - 7778 square miles - 1,470,000,000 gallons ethanol
1998 - 4902 square miles - 1,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
1997 - 6110 square miles - 1,300,000,000 gallons ethanol
1996 - 6846 square miles - 1,100,000,000 gallons ethanol
1995 - 7032 square miles - 1,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
1994 - 6403 square miles - 1,350,000,000 gallons ethanol
1993 - 6811 square miles - 1,200,000,000 gallons ethanol

You mean neg repping like you did earlier in the thread ? Stop being such a sniveling little pussy.

Daveman negged me saying I lied when I clearly did not.

You didn't provide a source for your data. You really expect us to just take your word for it?

Not happening. Link, or you lied. It's that simple.

So I negged his ass back because the facts clearly prove he is the liar just as you were when I negged you. Then he PMed me back with the quote below. That is what I was refering to in my post.

You sure are a butthurt little sissy bedwetter, aren't you?

And you just keep proving me right.

You sissy's need to get your facts straight. Farmers no longer not just blindly throw fertilizer, herbicide, pesticide & seed at the fields just to watch the rain wash it down the river. They now apply it only when needed & as needed after the crop is growing. Only after they see a good stand of corn & conditions are right do they apply chemicals as needed. Also fewer farmers till their soil to prevent it & the chemicals in it from washing into streams & rivers. This also greatly reduces the amount of fuel used by farmers. Turning over & leveling out the top foot of a large portion of the Earth's surface every year was a huge waste of resources.

Corn yields nearly double with less fertilizer use

In 1980, farmers grew 6.64 billion bushels of corn using 3.9 pounds of nutrients (nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium) for each bushel and in 2010 they grew 12.45 billion bushels using 1.6 pounds of nutrients per bushel produced. In total, this represents an 87.5 percent increase in production with 4 percent fewer nutrients during that same timeframe.

And that's good. No one's saying otherwise.

But it still has a huge negative impact on the environment. All the good intentions of ethanol supporters won't change that.

 

[Mr. H.]

KissMy, I don't at all mind your promotion of ethanol or defense of agriculture. I may not agree with some of your assertions, but please- quit berating the oil industry regarding "subsidies".

90% of the wells drilled in this country are done by independents - much like the small farmers are "independents" and not Big Ag. So stick with what you think you know, not what I know you don't know.

 

[Momanohedhunter]

There is no correlation between ethanol production & the size of the GOM dead zone.

Here is the actual data from NOAA & the EIA. Since you want to be a neg repping butt-hurt sissy-bed-wetter about it. You can go fish for your own links.

Dead Zone Area with Ethanol Production Totals.
2010 - 6564 square miles - 13,230,000,000 gallons ethanol
2009 - 3000 square miles - 10,758,258,000 gallons ethanol
2008 - 7988 square miles - 9,000,000,000 gallons ethanol
2007 - 7903 square miles - 6,500,000,000 gallons ethanol
2006 - 6662 square miles - 4,855,000,000 gallons ethanol
2005 - 4564 square miles - 3,904,000,000 gallons ethanol
2004 - 5800 square miles - 3,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
2003 - 3220 square miles - 2,800,000,000 gallons ethanol
2002 - 8484 square miles - 2,130,000,000 gallons ethanol
2001 - 8006 square miles - 1,770,000,000 gallons ethanol
2000 - 1750 square miles - 1,603,000,000 gallons ethanol
1999 - 7778 square miles - 1,470,000,000 gallons ethanol
1998 - 4902 square miles - 1,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
1997 - 6110 square miles - 1,300,000,000 gallons ethanol
1996 - 6846 square miles - 1,100,000,000 gallons ethanol
1995 - 7032 square miles - 1,400,000,000 gallons ethanol
1994 - 6403 square miles - 1,350,000,000 gallons ethanol
1993 - 6811 square miles - 1,200,000,000 gallons ethanol

You mean neg repping like you did earlier in the thread ? Stop being such a sniveling little pussy.

Daveman negged me saying I lied when I clearly did not. So I negged his ass back because the facts clearly prove he is the liar just as you were when I negged you. Then he PMed me back with the quote below. That is what I was refering to in my post.

You sure are a butthurt little sissy bedwetter, aren't you?

You sissy's need to get your facts straight. Farmers no longer not just blindly throw fertilizer, herbicide, pesticide & seed at the fields just to watch the rain wash it down the river. They now apply it only when needed & as needed after the crop is growing. Only after they see a good stand of corn & conditions are right do they apply chemicals as needed. Also fewer farmers till their soil to prevent it & the chemicals in it from washing into streams & rivers. This also greatly reduces the amount of fuel used by farmers. Turning over & leveling out the top foot of a large portion of the Earth's surface every year was a huge waste of resources.


ig·no·rant
   [ig-ner-uhnt] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3.
uninformed; unaware.

You demonstrated this with your inability to understand shipping, as well as how ethanol is made, and what makes better ethanol.

As far as not telling the truth, through your willing ignorance on the matter, you continue to lie. When you were getting pegged for not having a clue about what you are talking about, you stick to your political party's talking points instead of educating your self.

And your feeble neg reps mean nothing. I got four positive just for the fact you were the libtard who gave it to me.