Stolen Valor Act

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    Goddam judges.....sometimes the wrong ones get put on the bench.
     
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    So would impersonating an officer be legal??? Where do you draw the line?
     
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    There is an actual statute against that I believe.
     
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    what if lied about being an officer in the military? Is that protected?
     
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    I will join you in that quest brother. I earned my meager collection of ribbons and awards and only a low life would attempt to steal that from me, or any of the other thousands of current and former personnel out there.

    Personally, I think the punishment should fit the crime. You lie about being in the Army, you get sentenced to the Army.
     
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    That law applies to LEO not military officers and is unaffected by this ruling.
     
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    I honestly don't know now. Prior to this ruling that would have been against the law under Stolen Valor. I know it is against the UCMJ to impersonate an Officer or NCO, but most of us do not fall under the UCMJ. Used to.........
     
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    Though we rarely agree Ollie, you can be sure as hell we agree here.

    This is a fucking travesty.

    I guess they figured with all the Bru-haha over the health care thing, people wouldn't notice this.
     
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    I guess I'll pee in the pool.

    I truly don't see an issue with PX Rangers other than their own lies eventually catching up to them. I do see an issue with a PX Ranger lying in order to get veterans' benefits from the government. On the one hand, you have a liar who basically isn't harming anyone other than his own sense of honor. On the other hand, you have someone who is attempting to gain financial, medical or other similar benefits under false pretenses, which is already defined as a criminal act.

    If the gist of the Supreme Court's decision is that people have the right to be stupid, then it's a good decision. Otherwise, this can get out of hand any time anyone tells a war story.

    Don't get me wrong: I think anyone who tries to pass himself off as a combat vet without having paid his dues is lower than whale dung. But it seems to me that passing a law to criminalize that act will probably end up as one of those well-intentioned but dumb law that gets out of hand. It's these types of laws that result in little old ladies being harassed because they had the audacity to display the US flag on their front porch or in little kids being sent home because they sang the National Anthem. I think the Stolen Valor Act falls under the category of "be careful what you ask for...you just might get it."

    We have enough laws already. Those who lie about having been there-done that eventually get found out, and whether they admit it or not, eventually end up hiding under a cloud of shame that eats away at them.
     
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