Stimulous creates jobs!

[Xenophon]

If you work in the unemployment office maybe.

Back in the real world it has massivily failed, 49 out of 50 states have lost jobs.

House Committee on Ways & Means - Republican

 

[JakeStarkey]

What's your point? That we are in a recession, bad one created by GOP policies? That jobs are always the market lagger in an economic recovery created by BHO's administration? That life is getting a bit better every day but it is going slow because of the toll of the failed Bush policies?

OK, we all understand that.

 

[Xenophon]

What's your point? That we are in a recession, bad one created by GOP policies? That jobs are always the market lagger in an economic recovery created by BHO's administration? That life is getting a bit better every day but it is going slow because of the toll of the failed Bush policies?

OK, we all understand that.

The point should be obvious.

Obama was, is and will always be full of shit.

Before you showed up, a lot of said this is EXACTLY what would be the result of Porkulous.

It should also be a warning to you, Obama WASTED nearly a trillion dollars on this boondoggle, and he wants to do the same with healthcare.

THIS is is track record:

FAILURE.

 

[Ravi]

Xeno, thanks for posting this valuable partisan drivel from a Republican blog.

 

[KittenKoder]

Obama and Bush used that lame assed "stimulus" policy ...


... and it was shit, it is shit, and will always be shit.

 

[Sarah G]

If you work in the unemployment office maybe.

Back in the real world it has massivily failed, 49 out of 50 states have lost jobs.

House Committee on Ways & Means - Republican

Rush to judgement. It hasn't massively failed, it just isn't working yet.

The focus has been healthcare. Business can't come back strong enough without healthcare reform, everyone knows this. Let's get that done then we can sort out the rest.

 

[editec]

If you work in the unemployment office maybe.

Back in the real world it has massivily failed, 49 out of 50 states have lost jobs.

House Committee on Ways & Means - Republican

Three points:

1. The stimulus is designed poorly. I've complained about it and why I think it's badly (read classist) designed on other threads.

2. What it has done, however, is keep a lot of people in their jobs who would have, otherwise, lost them. Teachers and state workers, and public works construction workers, mostly. (FYI, I think the numbers of people who are working who would not have been, sans that stimulus money, numbers in the millions)

3. So far, they've spent about 1/3 of the total package, so there's some hope that it will help a bit.

If I were grading the package thus far, I'd give it about a C-

 

[EriktheRed]

Well, I know it's working around me. Lot of roadwork going on because of it.

About time, too.

 

[Xenophon]

Xeno, thanks for posting this valuable partisan drivel from a Republican blog.

Its not drivel, its not partisan and its not a 'blog.'

Thank you for being a good illustration of a mindless Obamatron, the thing this nation has to get past.

 

[Xenophon]

If you work in the unemployment office maybe.

Back in the real world it has massivily failed, 49 out of 50 states have lost jobs.

House Committee on Ways & Means - Republican

Three points:

1. The stimulus is designed poorly. I've complained about it and why I think it's badly (read classist) designed on other threads.

2. What it has done, however, is keep a lot of people in their jobs who would have, otherwise, lost them. Teachers and state workers, and public works construction workers, mostly. (FYI, I think the numbers of people who are working who would not have been, sans that stimulus money, numbers in the millions)

3. So far, they've spent about 1/3 of the total package, so there's some hope that it will help a bit.

If I were grading the package thus far, I'd give it about a C-

There is zero proof that this is the case, and it was NOT designed to do that in any case.

It was supposed to STIMULATE THE ECONOMY AND CREATE JOBS.

Claiming with zero proof it 'saved jobs' is just spin doctoring.

BTW, Unemployment today hit 9.8, a 26 year high.

So much for 'saving jobs.'

 

[Xenophon]

Well, I know it's working around me. Lot of roadwork going on because of it.

About time, too.

Infrastructure is included in every fiscal year's budget, a 'stimulous' was not needed for it.

 

[saveliberty]

What's your point? That we are in a recession, bad one created by GOP policies? That jobs are always the market lagger in an economic recovery created by BHO's administration? That life is getting a bit better every day but it is going slow because of the toll of the failed Bush policies?

OK, we all understand that.

Actually the mortgage crisis was the last major event to start the recession. It is clearly on the shoulders of Barney Frank and the rest of the Democrats. It seems like Mr. Obama has been President for 10 months now and he is the one who promised no more than what, 8.5 % unemployment, millions of jobs created this year? That failure is Obama's. Obama could have stopped the stimulus at anytime by instructing his Treasury Secretary to not use the money or use it for a different program. Trotting out the Bush dog won't hunt any more at this point.

 

[PixieStix]

I am pretty sure there have been a lot of bureaucratic jobs created, government workers like obama

 

[Oldandtired]

Well, I know it's working around me. Lot of roadwork going on because of it.

About time, too.

So you are OKAY with the idea of redoing your bathroom at a cost of 10,000 even though you are broke?

I am glad to see we will have pretty streets to drive on next year...as we drive to the unemployment office and continue to pay 500 million dollars a day in intertest to those that lent us the money for pretty streets.

Pathetic.

 

[namvet]

 

[The Rabbi]

If you work in the unemployment office maybe.

Back in the real world it has massivily failed, 49 out of 50 states have lost jobs.

House Committee on Ways & Means - Republican

Rush to judgement. It hasn't massively failed, it just isn't working yet.

The focus has been healthcare. Business can't come back strong enough without healthcare reform, everyone knows this. Let's get that done then we can sort out the rest.

Given the administraiton's predictions for 9 months out, and we are at that point, yes it has masssively failed. It had to. You cannot create wealth by taking a dollar from one person and giving it to another.
Every economic policy Obama has pushed has failed. He pushed for foreclosure relief for mortgages. That failed. He pushed the bailout of GM and Chrysler. While those haven't failed yet, it did not address the structural problems in those companies so failure is only a matter of time.
Healthcare will be an even bigger failure. WIth the WH having lost a huge vote yesterday in the Senate it looks like they will fall back and punt. Imposing massive mandates on even small employers is no way to increase employment.
Really none of this is that complicated.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

The "Stimulus" was just a terrible terrible sham. America will certainly not come out ahead on that sham. In fact we'll be paying for that sham for many many years. They simply took care of their corrupt Corporate Banker buddies and left the rest of us average American Citizens holding the bag. Just more sad Socialist Corporate Welfare stuff in the end.

 

[DiamondDave]

If you work in the unemployment office maybe.

Back in the real world it has massivily failed, 49 out of 50 states have lost jobs.

House Committee on Ways & Means - Republican

Rush to judgement. It hasn't massively failed, it just isn't working yet.

The focus has been healthcare. Business can't come back strong enough without healthcare reform, everyone knows this. Let's get that done then we can sort out the rest.

No... everyone does not "know this".. that is your biased assertion... however, it is not 'fact'

 

[Oldandtired]

If you work in the unemployment office maybe.

Back in the real world it has massivily failed, 49 out of 50 states have lost jobs.

House Committee on Ways & Means - Republican

Rush to judgement. It hasn't massively failed, it just isn't working yet.

The focus has been healthcare. Business can't come back strong enough without healthcare reform, everyone knows this. Let's get that done then we can sort out the rest.

Healthcare reform is slated, if passed, to begin severl years down the road. The only thing that will begin on signing is the tax part of it....which, of course, as anyone knows, is an added burden on the employers.

So based on your post...and not that I do not appreciate your optimism....you are saying lets get healthcare reform going and then address the rest, so we must wait until, at the earliest, 2013 before we address the rest?

I see your logic as backwards. I say let the economy correct itself as it ALWAYS does...and THEN we can talk about initiatives that will result in higher taxes for those that create jobs.

Or we can do it your way.....but how many companies will be left come 2013 at the rate we are going?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Was just in my local Mall the other day and wow what a Ghost Town. I actually felt bad for the employees who were just standing around praying for a possible sale. Many of the stores that used to be in this Mall are now closed and gone forever. These stores will never be coming back. The "Stimulus" was just one big sad scam in the end. It worked out great for the corrupt Corporate Fat Cats but hasn't done much for average American Citizens. Just because the corrupt Corporate Bankers are now happy making bundles of cash again,doesn't mean that average American Citizens are happy. So while Wall Street celebrates,most Americans continue to suffer.