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Why should anyone give up their rights as a citizen to avoid being arrested?I'm glad some don't get used to it.
As I said, "if". The point being don't be surprised if instant karma gets you (that's a general "you"). It's advisable to not resist and not talk without a lawyer being present. Stick to those two simple points and "you" should be okay.
The drug problem and gang problem is pretty bad here right now, gang members see this area as a free zone or whatever they say. We have had three meth heads killed in some form by the police just this summer. Two by shooting and one by high speed chase.
They also say the only reason why we rated below Tacoma for a meth problem is because Tacoma has more money to go after meth labs, right now we have no money.
Last night two gang member up from California shot two women after a bar fight. If I go to a bar I have learned that when a fight starts get the hell out of there, those women are just two of many.
We also have the oxy freaks robbing everything right now, they even broke into the store I work at stealing about 40,000 dollars worth of jewelry. When they got them for a oxy ring they found half the jewelry.
All I know is the Police just took three more career criminals off the street for good and I have no sympathy for these meth or oxy freaks. One guy they shot for pulling a butcher knife had just beat up and robbed a older lady in her home.
That sucks, I know how that is, where I live is the official Meth Capitol of the United States.
People don't realize how dangers someone spun out on meth or PCP really is. I would say atleast 60-75% of the people I detain are spun out and if you have never been in a situation where you have to try and get someone who is spun out in handcuffs consider yourself lucky.
First of all they have superhuman strength, the majority of the time you have to choker them out, just to get them under control and if you have never done it it is a hard thing to do. We had one guy who was about 5'4\120#'s throwing 4 of us around I had to choke him out to get him restained, and when he came to he actually broke my handcuffs. He cut his wrists down to the bone trying to break out of them and when he snapped the hinges I will tell you, that is one of the worst feelings you can ever imagine. There is no reasoning with someone like this and they dont think logically at all. All's they do is fight.
They are also resistant to the non lethal weapons the law enforcement uses like Tazers, and ASP or Pepper Spray since they are feeling no pain. I have seen someone hit with a Tazer and keep going at the Officer, not a good position for the cop to be in because he only has one choice remaining at that point, lethal force.
People need to realize the seriousness of the Meth crisis. It literally distroys lives and what makes it so dangerous is that you only need to try it just ONCE and your hooked for life.
You're full of shit. Not only is there no way to resist a taser's extremely high electric current, it would have ZERO to do with drug use.
There's a possibility of resisting if shot in the leg or arm, but then cops don't shoot the taser there DO THEY?
You're a rent-a-cop dude, and you're trying to bullshit a bullshitter.
As far as the meth, have you ever even used it to know it only takes "one time to get hooked for life"?
People keep forgetting a very human fact, cops are people to. They have families and friends, and responsibilities which makes their safety important as well. Not to mention that they are the only people who have someone above them that they have to account for when they do something out of anger only ... people you bump into on the street don't.
Spare us your insane if you aren't doing anything wrong don't be afraid bullshit. Especially from you who moaned and cried about the raid on the child rapist's compound.Okay ... so someone complains about people breaking the noise ordinances, and somehow the cops just "know" they are college brats and arrest them just for that? Weird ... when did they start hiring psychics?
Don't bother with logic or reality with these paranoid dumb asses. Neither reality or logic apply to their rants. If you dig you find out that people that make these charges and complain the loudest usually have a beef with the cops cause they got caught breaking the law. Editec for example got caught with pot. No telling what Strollings little problem was unless she tells us.
First thing you need to do and these people admit they do not, is be respectful. Even though I seriously doubt some cop is gonna blow me away for being a smart ass, I learned real quick in life if someone with more POWER then you is talking to you you do not aggravate them, you give them some respect.
Drunks are almost NEVER smart enough to be respectful, especially if when sober they are not. Cops do not just show up at condo's apartments or homes without a REASON. And the first thing you learn is that if the party is wild and loud and full of drunks no amount of ASKING is going to register with these drunk assholes to tone it down. The next thing to remember is if the cops have a reason to arrest someone, doing it in a room of drunks is a very bad idea. Better to get them to exit the room. It is called sound police tactics.
It's good you learned real quick never to question authority, RGS. And nice job of equating those in authority to street thugs with weapons. We aren't supposed to FEAR the police if we are innocent of any criminal wrongdoing.
do the police pull this around your area? we have asu near us with lots of student housing...police are called to a condo....or apartment.....people are partying hard inside the apartment...the police will come...ask the apartment owners to step outside....once they do that..they are on public property and are arrested for public drunkness....gestopo tactic or good police work...you be the judge.
Why do that when you can just summons them for violating noise ordinances?
Speaking of arresting...do cops really like to make frivolous arrests like you describe? I would imagine that for each arrest there is a huge amount of paperwork to do. Not to mention the taxpayer's cost.
i think it sucks diu...they mostly use these tactic on drunken college kids....i dont get in cops faces but i do not let them run over me either....its a thin line...
I have no sympathy for drunken college brats.
It depends.
If the police officer has grounds for arrest when he or she invites the person outside because they don't want to get the shit kicked out of them where they are when they try and effect the arrest, it's sensible.
However if the intent is to get the off-his-face (or her face) big mouth outside to have them act like complete goats so they can be pinched for disorderly behaviour, then it's not good practice.
Have I done both?
Yes.
Shit does happen. I'm sorry but if you fuck with the cops they fuck you back. That's life, get used to it.
It depends.
If the police officer has grounds for arrest when he or she invites the person outside because they don't want to get the shit kicked out of them where they are when they try and effect the arrest, it's sensible.
However if the intent is to get the off-his-face (or her face) big mouth outside to have them act like complete goats so they can be pinched for disorderly behaviour, then it's not good practice.
Have I done both?
Yes.
Shit does happen. I'm sorry but if you fuck with the cops they fuck you back. That's life, get used to it.
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Having come from a police family I would have agreed with you 100%, until July 13,2009 when a swat team from Lane County Oregon detained me in the back of a cruiser for2 1/2 hrs after I opened the gate for paramedics for their target.(contempt of court) I also am elderly and handicapped and asked for and was denied medical help for that 2 1/2 Hrs.
I have filed charges and now am harassed.
Also am now victimized again as my neighbors (who thought as I did) want to know what I did wrong. As the cops keep dropping by.
Shit is caused, not happens, and if you are a (phew) cop and you have done this you are a piece of shit.
The phrase used by police is" we are all going home tonight" sounds like a scared little boy whistling his way by a graveyard at night. But give that kid an AR15,Shotgun,or pistol and they all cover their fright and become goons.
OLJingoist aka/ greatgrampa
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I hate the old "if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about". It is complete and utter trash.
If you really think that we don't ever need to worry about politicians or police officers abusing their power you are an idiot.
If they were all good and holy we wouldn't need to have made entrapment a crime.
no , when the cops arrive at the condo...that is when they know they are students....and it is tricking someone who is doing what...making noise...into a public drunkness ticket
Oh? Is there a mark that they put on condos now that means "students live here"?
no , when the cops arrive at the condo...that is when they know they are students....and it is tricking someone who is doing what...making noise...into a public drunkness ticket
Oh? Is there a mark that they put on condos now that means "students live here"?
Does it really matter if it's only college students or not? It's borderline entrapment and completely unethical and indefensible.
How many cops do you know that would trick you into committing a crime just so they can arrest you? And please don't start with the laughably weak justification "well they might commit a crime".
do the police pull this around your area? we have asu near us with lots of student housing...police are called to a condo....or apartment.....people are partying hard inside the apartment...the police will come...ask the apartment owners to step outside....once they do that..they are on public property and are arrested for public drunkness....gestopo tactic or good police work...you be the judge.
