Stealing Delegates For Dummies

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    2000 election

    Technically it was NOT decided by the Court. The Court was asked to offer an opinion on matters of state/federal law. It does a disservice to the nation when the certain people in the media keep that myth alive.
    Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote
    By FORD FESSENDEN and JOHN M. BRODER
    Published: November 12, 2001

    www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/12VOTE.html
    FindLaw's United States Supreme Court case and opinions.
    The Florida Recount of 2000
     
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    But the consortium, looking at a broader group of rejected ballots than those covered in the court decisions, 175,010 in all, found that Mr. Gore might have won if the courts had ordered a full statewide recount of all the rejected ballots.
     
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    that title makes you look like the dummy and a SNOB
     
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    Why would you want the Court to go where it was not asked to go? It's all pretty simple and straightforward,

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    Did the Florida Supreme Court violate Article II Section 1 Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution by making new election law? Do standardless manual recounts violate the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Constitution?

    Conclusion
    Noting that the Equal Protection clause guarantees individuals that their ballots cannot be devalued by "later arbitrary and disparate treatment," the per curiam opinion held 7-2 that the Florida Supreme Court's scheme for recounting ballots was unconstitutional. Even if the recount was fair in theory, it was unfair in practice. The record suggested that different standards were applied from ballot to ballot, precinct to precinct, and county to county. Because of those and other procedural difficulties, the court held, 5 to 4, that no constitutional recount could be fashioned in the time remaining (which was short because the Florida legislature wanted to take advantage of the "safe harbor" provided by 3 USC Section 5).​

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    Gore should have pushed for an entire recount of the state..
     
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    That is a purely partisan argument. Would you push that argument if it meant Gore losing?
     
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    Sure, It's just a strategy I would have used..
     
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    That is exactly what Trump is doing.
     
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    The party in the states set the rules, so the selection of delegates is done in the state by the rules.

    So Learn The Rules.

    End of story.
     
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    Although Gary Johnson is the most interesting to me, i have not yet decided to support him. I like many of his libertarian views, but his foreign policy stance bothers me.
    His conservative fiscal views are also of interest, but not at the expense of very unfortunate individuals.
    However i love his Golden Rule simplicity with strict separation of church & state ... if he really holds compassion.
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