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AVG-JOE

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In the humble opinion of this average Joe, the greatest casualty of the American Civil War was the death of the concept of free states bound together by common defense in favor of one big state called 'America'.

Would life be different here if The Peoples of The Great States of California, Texas, Florida, Rhode Island, etc had the same freedom of self determination as do The Peoples of The Great States of Cuba, The Bahamas, Japan, France and Iran do?

What difference should it make to The People of Missouri if The People of California want to legally smoke pot, enjoy gay sex and have abortion pretty much on demand?

If 75% of The People of The Great State of North Carolina want to set up a Nativity Scene on the front lawn of their capitol building, do the rest of us have the right to tell them that they can't?

We will never be free until we are "Many States (Nations) under (insert your preferred Deity here), bound together by common defense.
 
In the humble opinion of this average Joe, the greatest casualty of the American Civil War was the death of the concept of free states bound together by common defense in favor of one big state called 'America'.

Strength and happiness are to be found in a community of equals bound together by their dedication to the common good and general welfare and willing to crush every threat to their union even if the threat is internal. The members of the community are subjects not sovereigns. The owe allegiance to the community and violate their duty at their great peril.
 
In the humble opinion of this average Joe, the greatest casualty of the American Civil War was the death of the concept of free states bound together by common defense in favor of one big state called 'America'.

Would life be different here if The Peoples of The Great States of California, Texas, Florida, Rhode Island, etc had the same freedom of self determination as do The Peoples of The Great States of Cuba, The Bahamas, Japan, France and Iran do?

What difference should it make to The People of Missouri if The People of California want to legally smoke pot, enjoy gay sex and have abortion pretty much on demand?

If 75% of The People of The Great State of North Carolina want to set up a Nativity Scene on the front lawn of their capitol building, do the rest of us have the right to tell them that they can't?

We will never be free until we are "Many States (Nations) under (insert your preferred Deity here), bound together by common defense.

If 1% Muslims want to set up place for worshiping on the front lawn of North Carolina's capitol building, do we have the right to tell them no? After all it is freedom of Religion, not from religion. Lets just allow any deity do whatever the fuck they want on public property.
 
If we let one religion we have to let em all.

Silly person that is not how it works in the US, it has to be Christian as the US is a Christian nation. Any others need to be quiet before the rest of the nation starts to hunt them down and convert them by any means possible.

that is the way it is supposed to work in the USA. But we are far from as perfect as we seem to think we are.
 
If we let one religion we have to let em all.

Silly person that is not how it works in the US, it has to be Christian as the US is a Christian nation. Any others need to be quiet before the rest of the nation starts to hunt them down and convert them by any means possible.

Why convert. Just get that wood ready for witches and warlocks.
 
If we let one religion we have to let em all.

Silly person that is not how it works in the US, it has to be Christian as the US is a Christian nation. Any others need to be quiet before the rest of the nation starts to hunt them down and convert them by any means possible.

Why convert. Just get that wood ready for witches and warlocks.

They will just turn you into a toad.
 
I thanked you for that OP however I want to take it a step farther, not only have we seemed to have abandoned the 10th Amendment and ceded a lot of the States powers to the Federal govt. but we have completely ignored the 9th Amendment, government at any level can be a tyrannical power and the 9th states.....

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people"

Smoking a joint in the privacy of one's own home or having gay sex between consenting adults should not even be brought to a vote, as Jefferson said ....

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine".
 
Silly person that is not how it works in the US, it has to be Christian as the US is a Christian nation. Any others need to be quiet before the rest of the nation starts to hunt them down and convert them by any means possible.

Why convert. Just get that wood ready for witches and warlocks.

They will just turn you into a toad.

Better then Republican sheep!
 
If we let one religion we have to let em all.

Silly person that is not how it works in the US, it has to be Christian as the US is a Christian nation. Any others need to be quiet before the rest of the nation starts to hunt them down and convert them by any means possible.

Why convert. Just get that wood ready for witches and warlocks.

Because conversion shows compassion and the true willingness to lead the sheep to what is best for them.
 
Silly person that is not how it works in the US, it has to be Christian as the US is a Christian nation. Any others need to be quiet before the rest of the nation starts to hunt them down and convert them by any means possible.

Why convert. Just get that wood ready for witches and warlocks.

Because conversion shows compassion and the true willingness to lead the sheep to what is best for them.

Absolutely. Because according to Real Americans people are too stupid.
 
Why convert. Just get that wood ready for witches and warlocks.

Because conversion shows compassion and the true willingness to lead the sheep to what is best for them.

Absolutely. Because according to Real Americans people are too stupid.

Yes yes they are. They are not capable for thinking for themselves and must be told what to think. They must be good sheep and follow a leader. Thinking for one's self needs to be outlawed as well as shows like this.

Video: The Apparent Trap | The Daily Show | Comedy Central
 
Many incorrectly assume that The United States of America is a democracy.
We have never been.
We are a constitutional republic.
Fast approaching a theoligical police state.
 
Because conversion shows compassion and the true willingness to lead the sheep to what is best for them.

Absolutely. Because according to Real Americans people are too stupid.

Yes yes they are. They are not capable for thinking for themselves and must be told what to think. They must be good sheep and follow a leader. Thinking for one's self needs to be outlawed as well as shows like this.

Video: The Apparent Trap | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

Absolutely. Making the doing of healthcare bill public is way too much for them to handle!
 
In the humble opinion of this average Joe, the greatest casualty of the American Civil War was the death of the concept of free states bound together by common defense in favor of one big state called 'America'.

Strength and happiness are to be found in a community of equals bound together by their dedication to the common good and general welfare and willing to crush every threat to their union even if the threat is internal. The members of the community are subjects not sovereigns. The owe allegiance to the community and violate their duty at their great peril.

Yes Mr. Totalitatrian. My happiness is your happiness....
 
In the humble opinion of this average Joe, the greatest casualty of the American Civil War was the death of the concept of free states bound together by common defense in favor of one big state called 'America'.

Strength and happiness are to be found in a community of equals bound together by their dedication to the common good and general welfare and willing to crush every threat to their union even if the threat is internal. The members of the community are subjects not sovereigns. The owe allegiance to the community and violate their duty at their great peril.

Yeah, in the old Soviet Union...
 
Fast approaching a theoligical police state.

Hardly. We've gone exactly the opposite direction. Up until the late 20th century religion played a huge part in government. It's nowhere near that involved today.

I often wonder why people believe that if public officials or religion expressed in the public spheres somehow threatens anyone else right to practice their own religion as they wish. Its a strange idea when you think about it because whenever the Johovah Witnesses come around I ignore them yet we can't do that with religion in the public sphere? What power does the state-god have over our minds to influence how we think that those Johovah witnesses don't have?
 

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