State of Palestine

[Urbanguerrilla]

After upgrading status, UN officially switches from ‘Palestine’ to ‘State of Palestine’
The body now refers to Mahmoud Abbas as ‘head of state’

While legislative scholars and political pundits continue to debate the exact meaning of the upgrade of the Palestinians to a nonmember observer state, the United Nations last week officially changed the way it refers to the body: it’s now the “State of Palestine,” as opposed to merely “Palestine.”

The name change is based on an opinion by the UN’s legal department, and might not have any practical implications on the ground, Israeli officials say. But on a symbolic level, the decision will likely boost aspirations of Palestinian leaders who hope their newly gained status will help them establish a full-fledged independent state.

Immediately after the General Assembly vote to upgrade the Palestinians on November 29, UN officials still opposed Palestinian diplomats’ efforts to independently change “Palestine” to “State of Palestine” in the formal name of their permanent observer mission.

After upgrading status, UN officially switches from 'Palestine' to 'State of Palestine' | The Times of Israel

If they are a state now, surely the UN has an imperative to defend that state?

 

[SAYIT]

After upgrading status, UN officially switches from ‘Palestine’ to ‘State of Palestine’
The body now refers to Mahmoud Abbas as ‘head of state’

While legislative scholars and political pundits continue to debate the exact meaning of the upgrade of the Palestinians to a nonmember observer state, the United Nations last week officially changed the way it refers to the body: it’s now the “State of Palestine,” as opposed to merely “Palestine.”

The name change is based on an opinion by the UN’s legal department, and might not have any practical implications on the ground, Israeli officials say. But on a symbolic level, the decision will likely boost aspirations of Palestinian leaders who hope their newly gained status will help them establish a full-fledged independent state.

Immediately after the General Assembly vote to upgrade the Palestinians on November 29, UN officials still opposed Palestinian diplomats’ efforts to independently change “Palestine” to “State of Palestine” in the formal name of their permanent observer mission.

After upgrading status, UN officially switches from 'Palestine' to 'State of Palestine' | The Times of Israel

If they are a state now, surely the UN has an imperative to defend that state?

Uh-huh, and most certainly the UN is planning an invasion as we speak. Perhaps you would like to volunteer?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Uh Oh, "State of Palestine." How will the Palestinians survive if that means self determination without having Israel to provide for them any longer?

As the occupying power, Israel is still responsible for Palestine's welfare. The only way for Israel to drop that obligation would be to end the occupation.

According to Jos, Abbas is recognized by the UN as the State of Palestine's head-of-state. I believe you and BecauseIKnowSquat have a different opinion. Why wasn't Hamas's Haniya recognized?

It is a can of worms for sure. This is the way I understand it.

In 1964 some Palestinian groups got together and formed the Palestine Liberation Organization. (PLO)

In 1974 the UN recognized the PLO as the representatives of the Palestinian people.

In 1988 the PLO declared Palestine to be an independent state for the second time. The first time was in 1948. About a hundred countries recognized the Palestinian state. The UN did not but did change the name from PLO to Palestine.

The PA was created in 1994 as part of the Oslo accord. Arafat was appointed president. He was also still the chairman of the PLO.

Elections were held in 1996. Arafat was elected president and PLC (parliament) members were elected. Arafat was also still the chairman of the PLO.

Arafat ratified the Palestinian constitution in 2003 creating a new government in Palestine. This constitution did not mention Israel, did not mention the occupation, did not mention Oslo. There was no place in the government for the PLO. There was no mention of changing Palestine's international borders.

The UN recognizes the PLO as "Palestine" and does not recognize the government that was created and elected by the people.

I see problems down the road with the UN not recognizing the legitimate government.

 

[irosie91]

so?? the borders are still disputed and what ever "palestine"
is----it has declared that it is at war with Israel and has declared
itself the aggressor as has Iran

 

[P F Tinmore]

so?? the borders are still disputed and what ever "palestine"
is----it has declared that it is at war with Israel and has declared
itself the aggressor as has Iran

Not true.

None of Palestine's neighbors dispute their borders.

Did the Palestinians declare this war when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists?

 

[irosie91]

so?? the borders are still disputed and what ever "palestine"
is----it has declared that it is at war with Israel and has declared
itself the aggressor as has Iran

Not true.

None of Palestine's neighbors dispute their borders.

Did the Palestinians declare this war when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists?

The dogs of arabia declared this war upon the zionists when they raped
and pillaged their way thru Israel and judea in 637 CE In fact,
the actual war on the Zionists was initiated by the arab dogs ---eight
years earlier when they raped and pillaged and murdered their way
thru Yathrib This war has been raging now ---approx. 1380 years.
Dogs of arabia continue to occupy both ZION and JEWISH LAND IN
ARABIA

 

[Billo_Really]

They can call themselves a kangaroo, but it still won't get them into the zoo for free.

Nor will calling them a state make them one.

They aren't a state and never will be- not here.

Well, it's not your decision to make. Nor is it Israel's. That is between the Palestinian's and the UN. It's none of Israel's god-damn business whether or not Palestine becomes a sovereign nation. You're not the king of the world and you certainly don't tell other nations what they can (and cannot) do.

But if you think you can, you go right ahead and keep trying to bully others. Because in the end, the bully always gets his ass kicked!

 

[docmauser1]

None of Palestine's neighbors dispute their borders.

Indeed, they're happy with what french and british mandates gave them, of course. Did they earn them anyhow? Of course, not.

Did the Palestinians declare this war when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists?

Nah, palistanians were busy settling the mandate through illegal immigration, of course. In memorable words of Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.". Brilliant.

 

[docmauser1]

Well, it's not your decision to make. Nor is it Israel's. That is between the Palestinian's and the UN.

Well, then the UN can settle palistanians in the UN and draw borders there too, of course.

 

[emptystep]

After upgrading status, UN officially switches from ‘Palestine’ to ‘State of Palestine’
The body now refers to Mahmoud Abbas as ‘head of state’

While legislative scholars and political pundits continue to debate the exact meaning of the upgrade of the Palestinians to a nonmember observer state, the United Nations last week officially changed the way it refers to the body: it’s now the “State of Palestine,” as opposed to merely “Palestine.”

The name change is based on an opinion by the UN’s legal department, and might not have any practical implications on the ground, Israeli officials say. But on a symbolic level, the decision will likely boost aspirations of Palestinian leaders who hope their newly gained status will help them establish a full-fledged independent state.

Immediately after the General Assembly vote to upgrade the Palestinians on November 29, UN officials still opposed Palestinian diplomats’ efforts to independently change “Palestine” to “State of Palestine” in the formal name of their permanent observer mission.

After upgrading status, UN officially switches from 'Palestine' to 'State of Palestine' | The Times of Israel

If they are a state now, surely the UN has an imperative to defend that state?

Israel does not give a shit what the UN thinks. As long as the US is bought and paid for what do they care?

UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and Palestinians
UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992

Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

 

[docmauser1]

UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

The UN should get a life and a psychiatrist, of course.

 

[emptystep]

The UN should get a life and a psychiatrist, of course.

Resolution 799. The first one I looked up:
"the Council condemned the deportations that were in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention referring to the protection of civilians in times of war."

Shall I continue?

 

[Billo_Really]

The UN should get a life and a psychiatrist, of course.[/size][/font]

You think its okay to launch un-provoked attacks against your neighbors?

 

[docmauser1]

The UN should get a life and a psychiatrist, of course.

Resolution 799. The first one I looked up: "the Council condemned the deportations that were in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention referring to the protection of civilians in times of war." Shall I continue?

Do, please, the bullshitting capacity of the UN is well-known.

 

[docmauser1]

The UN should get a life and a psychiatrist, of course.[/font]

You think its okay to launch un-provoked attacks against your neighbors?

But that's what palistanians do, it's their occupation, of course.

 

[emptystep]

The UN should get a life and a psychiatrist, of course.

Resolution 799. The first one I looked up: "the Council condemned the deportations that were in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention referring to the protection of civilians in times of war." Shall I continue?

Do, please, the bullshitting capacity of the UN is well-known.

Sorry I'm slow. Can't be here all the time ya know.

United Nations Security Council resolution 672, adopted unanimously on 12 October 1990, after reaffirming resolutions 476 (1980), 478 (1980), the Council expressed alarm at the violence at Holy Places in Jerusalem on 8 October 1990, resulting in the death of 20 Palestinian people and the injury of 150 others, including Palestinian civilians and other worshippers.

The Council went on to condemn the actions of the Israeli security forces, calling on Israel to abide by its legal obligations under the Fourth Geneva Convention. Resolution 672 also authorised a mission to be sent to the region to investigate the incident, reporting back by the end of October 1990.

 

[proudveteran06]

They can call themselves a kangaroo, but it still won't get them into the zoo for free.

Nor will calling them a state make them one.

They aren't a state and never will be- not here.

Well, it's not your decision to make. Nor is it Israel's. That is between the Palestinian's and the UN. It's none of Israel's god-damn business whether or not Palestine becomes a sovereign nation. You're not the king of the world and you certainly don't tell other nations what they can (and cannot) do.

But if you think you can, you go right ahead and keep trying to bully others. Because in the end, the bully always gets his ass kicked!

You are right. The Arabs have has their ass kicked !

 

[P F Tinmore]

They can call themselves a kangaroo, but it still won't get them into the zoo for free.

Nor will calling them a state make them one.

They aren't a state and never will be- not here.

Well, it's not your decision to make. Nor is it Israel's. That is between the Palestinian's and the UN. It's none of Israel's god-damn business whether or not Palestine becomes a sovereign nation. You're not the king of the world and you certainly don't tell other nations what they can (and cannot) do.

But if you think you can, you go right ahead and keep trying to bully others. Because in the end, the bully always gets his ass kicked!

You are right. The Arabs have has their ass kicked !

Indeed, and Israel has won nothing after a hundred years of "kicking ass."

 

[irosie91]

Well, it's not your decision to make. Nor is it Israel's. That is between the Palestinian's and the UN. It's none of Israel's god-damn business whether or not Palestine becomes a sovereign nation. You're not the king of the world and you certainly don't tell other nations what they can (and cannot) do.

But if you think you can, you go right ahead and keep trying to bully others. Because in the end, the bully always gets his ass kicked!

You are right. The Arabs have has their ass kicked !

Indeed, and Israel has won nothing after a hundred years of "kicking ass."

then why do the islamo nazi dogs, monkeys and pigs constantly complain
that they are victims of "THE ZIONIST ENTITY"? ----oh!!!! you said
"israel" is that ok with those whose asses you lick?

 

[docmauser1]

Resolution 799. The first one I looked up: "the Council condemned the deportations that were in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention referring to the protection of civilians in times of war." Shall I continue?

Do, please, the bullshitting capacity of the UN is well-known.

United Nations Security Council resolution 672, adopted unanimously on 12 October 1990, after reaffirming resolutions 476 (1980), 478 (1980), the Council expressed alarm at the violence at Holy Places in Jerusalem on 8 October 1990, resulting in the death of 20 Palestinian people and the injury of 150 others, including Palestinian civilians and other worshippers. The Council went on to condemn the actions of the Israeli security forces, calling on Israel to abide by its legal obligations under the Fourth Geneva Convention. Resolution 672 also authorised a mission to be sent to the region to investigate the incident, reporting back by the end of October 1990.

The UN occupation, indeed.