2aguy
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The look was really stunning......the X-wings coming across the lake, the other images...great...the movie...really sort of sucked...but because Lucas shafted the fans so bad on the other three, people like this one because the pain stopped.....
11 Serious Problems With The New Star Wars Movie
1. There was a lot of chatter about how the new heroes would succeed the original stars of the first trilogy. Well, it turns out Abrams made it really simple for us, because Rey is all threemajor characters from the first trilogy. She’s the idealistic dreamer with hidden Force potential. She’s the streetwise pilot who has a lot of skills and knows how to get out of a jam. And she’s the damsel who’s a lot tougher than she looks at first. I think the filmmakers wanted to make sure they had a “strong female character” in the lead, which is fine, but what we got was a total Mary Sue.
This is annoying because it removes a lot of tension and interest from the movie. Rey almost never needs help to do anything. She’s a self-sufficient scavenger (no uncle or aunt here!), she defeats the aliens targeting the droid by herself, she does all the work escaping in the Falcon, fixes the Millennium Falcon for Solo, saves Finn from the monster thing, escapes from prison on her own, and beats Kylo Ren in a fight by herself with no training whatsoever. She’s basically a force of nature who just kicks ass the whole movie, and has no real flaws. She even appears to just naturally know Force powers like the Jedi mind trick, even though as far as I could tell nobody taught her anything.
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5. Kylo Ren was a piss-weak whiny loser. I guess they’re setting him up as a confused, vulnerable young guy who can be redeemed, possibly even by the end of the next movie, but I’m not even sure we want him to be redeemed. What would he add by being on the good side? He’s more or less a whiny angst-ridden goof, and the fact he’s basically a Vader cosplayer only makes it worse.
Obviously, we don’t want a pure Vader clone, but because Ren is so weak it really weakens the tension of the film. He’s a borderline incompetent villain who is always screwing up and actually gets his ass kicked by some 15-year-old girl at the end. I guess all his screw-ups sort of set him up to murder Han as a means of proving himself, but it also doesn’t seem to change him much– he’s still a weakling after killing Han.
Also, what’s the deal with Kylo’s Darth Vader obsession? He knows he went back to the Light Side in the end, right? Wouldn’t Vader’s ultimate “failure” really demean him in Kylo’s eyes? Instead, we’re told he worries he’s not as strong as Vader was.
Read more: 11 Serious Problems With The New Star Wars Movie
Read more: 11 Serious Problems With The New Star Wars Movie
11 Serious Problems With The New Star Wars Movie
1. There was a lot of chatter about how the new heroes would succeed the original stars of the first trilogy. Well, it turns out Abrams made it really simple for us, because Rey is all threemajor characters from the first trilogy. She’s the idealistic dreamer with hidden Force potential. She’s the streetwise pilot who has a lot of skills and knows how to get out of a jam. And she’s the damsel who’s a lot tougher than she looks at first. I think the filmmakers wanted to make sure they had a “strong female character” in the lead, which is fine, but what we got was a total Mary Sue.
This is annoying because it removes a lot of tension and interest from the movie. Rey almost never needs help to do anything. She’s a self-sufficient scavenger (no uncle or aunt here!), she defeats the aliens targeting the droid by herself, she does all the work escaping in the Falcon, fixes the Millennium Falcon for Solo, saves Finn from the monster thing, escapes from prison on her own, and beats Kylo Ren in a fight by herself with no training whatsoever. She’s basically a force of nature who just kicks ass the whole movie, and has no real flaws. She even appears to just naturally know Force powers like the Jedi mind trick, even though as far as I could tell nobody taught her anything.
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5. Kylo Ren was a piss-weak whiny loser. I guess they’re setting him up as a confused, vulnerable young guy who can be redeemed, possibly even by the end of the next movie, but I’m not even sure we want him to be redeemed. What would he add by being on the good side? He’s more or less a whiny angst-ridden goof, and the fact he’s basically a Vader cosplayer only makes it worse.
Obviously, we don’t want a pure Vader clone, but because Ren is so weak it really weakens the tension of the film. He’s a borderline incompetent villain who is always screwing up and actually gets his ass kicked by some 15-year-old girl at the end. I guess all his screw-ups sort of set him up to murder Han as a means of proving himself, but it also doesn’t seem to change him much– he’s still a weakling after killing Han.
Also, what’s the deal with Kylo’s Darth Vader obsession? He knows he went back to the Light Side in the end, right? Wouldn’t Vader’s ultimate “failure” really demean him in Kylo’s eyes? Instead, we’re told he worries he’s not as strong as Vader was.
Read more: 11 Serious Problems With The New Star Wars Movie
Read more: 11 Serious Problems With The New Star Wars Movie
