Standing Up to Islamofascism

[Weatherman2020]

33rd Anniversary: Flight Attendant Who Saved American Lives Shot Dead By Terrorists.

She was the youngest person and first civilian to posthumously receive India's highest award for gallantry.

This week in September 1986, Flight Attendant Neerja Bhanot, 23, of Chandigarh, India was shot dead while shielding three children on the hijacked Pan Am Flight 73.

She is credited with saving the lives of 360 passengers when radical Islamist terrorists hijacked her aircraft in Karachi, Pakistan.
She informed the pilots who used their escape hatch to get away. When the terrorists demanded to know who the Americans were on the flight so they could execute them, Bhanot gathered all passports and hid those belonging to Americans under seat cushions.

The terrorists confused and unable to determine the national origins of the passengers didn't execute anyone. When Pakistani police raided the plane she was able to nearly singlehandedly evacuate all the passengers as the firefight ensued.

She was one of the last people on board and found three children still hiding. As she led the children to safety the surviving terrorists spotted the children and opened fire on them. Neerja jumped in the way of the bullets and was mortally wounded.

She was able to evacuate the children to safety before dying from her wounds. She also posthumously received a "Special Courage" award from the government of Pakistan and recognition from the U.S. Department of Justice. The 2016 Indian Hindi-language biographical thriller drama, Neerja, is about her life.

Neerja Bhanot - Wikipedia

 

[Coyote]

She was courageous long before that...


Neerja: The sky was her limit

Before she stood up to a gang of hijackers on a Pan American World Airways flight, Neerja Bhanot’s major act of courage was to walk out of her marriage.

It was 1986. She was a 21-year-old in Bombay, a striking young woman with a modelling career that was just taking off. That she had agreed to a match arranged by her father to a man based in Sharjah had come as a surprise to many. She was the sherni of the family, a fiercely independent young woman. But, devoted as she was to her father, Neerja could not say no.

In Sharjah, the marriage nosedived. She was harassed by demands for dowry, starved and denied any money. A few months later, by the time she returned to her Bandra home to wrap up a modelling assignment, she had lost 5 kg. Her husband’s letter followed, listing out the conditions she was expected to follow: it included “respecting” him and severing ties with her own family. What cut her to the bone, recalls her brother Aneesh, was the question: “What are you? You are a mere graduate.”

 

[Weatherman2020]

She was courageous long before that...


Neerja: The sky was her limit

Before she stood up to a gang of hijackers on a Pan American World Airways flight, Neerja Bhanot’s major act of courage was to walk out of her marriage.

It was 1986. She was a 21-year-old in Bombay, a striking young woman with a modelling career that was just taking off. That she had agreed to a match arranged by her father to a man based in Sharjah had come as a surprise to many. She was the sherni of the family, a fiercely independent young woman. But, devoted as she was to her father, Neerja could not say no.

In Sharjah, the marriage nosedived. She was harassed by demands for dowry, starved and denied any money. A few months later, by the time she returned to her Bandra home to wrap up a modelling assignment, she had lost 5 kg. Her husband’s letter followed, listing out the conditions she was expected to follow: it included “respecting” him and severing ties with her own family. What cut her to the bone, recalls her brother Aneesh, was the question: “What are you? You are a mere graduate.”

Islam and Hinduism are such pinnacles of women’s rights. Said no one ever.

 

[Coyote]

She was courageous long before that...


Neerja: The sky was her limit

Before she stood up to a gang of hijackers on a Pan American World Airways flight, Neerja Bhanot’s major act of courage was to walk out of her marriage.

It was 1986. She was a 21-year-old in Bombay, a striking young woman with a modelling career that was just taking off. That she had agreed to a match arranged by her father to a man based in Sharjah had come as a surprise to many. She was the sherni of the family, a fiercely independent young woman. But, devoted as she was to her father, Neerja could not say no.

In Sharjah, the marriage nosedived. She was harassed by demands for dowry, starved and denied any money. A few months later, by the time she returned to her Bandra home to wrap up a modelling assignment, she had lost 5 kg. Her husband’s letter followed, listing out the conditions she was expected to follow: it included “respecting” him and severing ties with her own family. What cut her to the bone, recalls her brother Aneesh, was the question: “What are you? You are a mere graduate.”

Islam and Hinduism are such pinnacles of women’s rights. Said no one ever.

Neither is Christianity. It takes a secular turn to gain those rights.

 

[Weatherman2020]

She was courageous long before that...


Neerja: The sky was her limit

Before she stood up to a gang of hijackers on a Pan American World Airways flight, Neerja Bhanot’s major act of courage was to walk out of her marriage.

It was 1986. She was a 21-year-old in Bombay, a striking young woman with a modelling career that was just taking off. That she had agreed to a match arranged by her father to a man based in Sharjah had come as a surprise to many. She was the sherni of the family, a fiercely independent young woman. But, devoted as she was to her father, Neerja could not say no.

In Sharjah, the marriage nosedived. She was harassed by demands for dowry, starved and denied any money. A few months later, by the time she returned to her Bandra home to wrap up a modelling assignment, she had lost 5 kg. Her husband’s letter followed, listing out the conditions she was expected to follow: it included “respecting” him and severing ties with her own family. What cut her to the bone, recalls her brother Aneesh, was the question: “What are you? You are a mere graduate.”

Islam and Hinduism are such pinnacles of women’s rights. Said no one ever.

Neither is Christianity. It takes a secular turn to gain those rights.

Yes, women in Western Civilization are so oppressed.

 

[K9Buck]

She was courageous long before that...


Neerja: The sky was her limit

Before she stood up to a gang of hijackers on a Pan American World Airways flight, Neerja Bhanot’s major act of courage was to walk out of her marriage.

It was 1986. She was a 21-year-old in Bombay, a striking young woman with a modelling career that was just taking off. That she had agreed to a match arranged by her father to a man based in Sharjah had come as a surprise to many. She was the sherni of the family, a fiercely independent young woman. But, devoted as she was to her father, Neerja could not say no.

In Sharjah, the marriage nosedived. She was harassed by demands for dowry, starved and denied any money. A few months later, by the time she returned to her Bandra home to wrap up a modelling assignment, she had lost 5 kg. Her husband’s letter followed, listing out the conditions she was expected to follow: it included “respecting” him and severing ties with her own family. What cut her to the bone, recalls her brother Aneesh, was the question: “What are you? You are a mere graduate.”

Islam and Hinduism are such pinnacles of women’s rights. Said no one ever.

Neither is Christianity. It takes a secular turn to gain those rights.

Jesus saved Mary Magdalene.

Why do you believe that Christianity oppresses women?

 

[sparky]

Religion has a long history of subjugation

read a book....

~S~

 

[Weatherman2020]

Religion has a long history of subjugation

read a book....

~S~

Difference between recording events that occurred than applying rules.....

 

[sparky]

or actual history vs. it's revisionists

~S~

 

[Weatherman2020]

or actual history vs. it's revisionists

~S~

Yes, Mormonism, Islam and Atheist religions do have a lot of revisionism.

 

[sparky]

They all do , and they all have their followers 'bowing down' to them

Most of which are no more than political idealists cloaked in the guise of religion

That said, guess who's the biggest, most monied, most influential in DC Weatherdude

they ain't hard to find

~S~

 

[Coyote]

or actual history vs. it's revisionists

~S~

Or...the difference between the prophets themselves and their followers. The major religions of today all spring from cultures where it sucked for woman and those cultures continued to to inform those faiths long after the deaths of the prophets.

It is easy to ignore the cultural contributions in terms of what was codified and what was left out, and was just plain made up for political use. In portions of the Bible that were rejected, Jesus was far more egalitarian to women. He also included them among his disciples. Rape, enslavement, and pillage were also common tools of war without among the cultures of the era. In Christianity, there was a point where the seat of the faith could have become Ireland, but Rome instead won out and and instituted a much harsher view towards women and stripped them of their ability to lead in either sacred or secular functions in Ireland. Islam, I believe had a similar fork in the road where they turned to a harsher, fundamentalist and far less tolerant version of the faith. This saw also a decline in knowledge, sciences, inventions.

I don’t know about Hinduism, except it sucks for women, low caste people and widows.

Both Mohammed and Jesus were very enlightened for their times and cultures, it is easy to forget that in light of modern values and ethics. Their followers not so much at all.

What really matters is how those religions evolve to encompass modern views of human rights and women’s rights and it is certainly an uphill battle.

Mohammed and women: Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet . Muhammad and Women | PBS

Jesus and women: Jesus’ Extraordinary Treatment of Women

 

[Coyote]

They all do , and they all have their followers 'bowing down' to them

Most of which are no more than political idealists cloaked in the guise of religion

That said, guess who's the biggest, most monied, most influential in DC Weatherdude

they ain't hard to find

~S~

Absolutely. Just study their history.

 

[Coyote]

or actual history vs. it's revisionists

~S~

Yes, Mormonism, Islam and Atheist religions do have a lot of revisionism.

There is no such thing as an athiest religion. It is nothing more than a non belief in the Divine. There is no text, scripture or prophet or unity of faith. There is nothing to revise,

It can be an ideology I suppose because it certainly has it’s standard bearers.

 

[Coyote]

She was courageous long before that...


Neerja: The sky was her limit

Before she stood up to a gang of hijackers on a Pan American World Airways flight, Neerja Bhanot’s major act of courage was to walk out of her marriage.

It was 1986. She was a 21-year-old in Bombay, a striking young woman with a modelling career that was just taking off. That she had agreed to a match arranged by her father to a man based in Sharjah had come as a surprise to many. She was the sherni of the family, a fiercely independent young woman. But, devoted as she was to her father, Neerja could not say no.

In Sharjah, the marriage nosedived. She was harassed by demands for dowry, starved and denied any money. A few months later, by the time she returned to her Bandra home to wrap up a modelling assignment, she had lost 5 kg. Her husband’s letter followed, listing out the conditions she was expected to follow: it included “respecting” him and severing ties with her own family. What cut her to the bone, recalls her brother Aneesh, was the question: “What are you? You are a mere graduate.”

Islam and Hinduism are such pinnacles of women’s rights. Said no one ever.

Neither is Christianity. It takes a secular turn to gain those rights.

Yes, women in Western Civilization are so oppressed.

Key term: Western Civilization. Not religion. A culture based on enlightened values and a seperation of church and state.

What happens when church starts to overule that seperation?

Domestic abuse in Russia is cultural but underpinned by biblical rules for women.
Feminism could destroy Russia, Russian Orthodox patriarch claims
In Russia, Feminist Memes Buy Jail Time, but Domestic Abuse Doesn’t

Or the anti homosexuality movement in Africa
It’s Not Just Uganda: Behind the Christian Right’s Onslaught in Africa

 

[Pellinore]

I read about Neerja. She was nothing less than a superhero, and she deserved better.

I don't think we can infer, though, that barbarity, terrorism, or violence against women can be assigned exclusively or even primarily to one religion over the others, or even to religion over any other cause. Humans have quite a capacity for depraved indifference or zealous nutjobbery, and that switch can be flipped by a lot of things. Look at the people who shot at our Presidents over the years - their motives ranged from pro-Confederacy rage, to anger at being passed over, to anarchism, to Puerto Rican nationalism, to hatred for capitalism, to trying to impress Jodie Foster. Heck, young, dumb men are even breaking out in spurts of violence now because they blame society for the fact that they can't get a date.

Fortunately, we also have quite a capacity for giving ourselves for others. Like Neerja did.