Spiritual but not religious

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    It is a cop out. It's a way alot of people absolve themselves from the responsibility to study and learn about various doctrines and justify not testing them to determine if they are correct or not.

    They are also not mutually exclusive terms.

    Im not impressed with the spirituality of someone who never ministers to others.
     
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    I consider myself very much "spiritual but not religious".

    Doctrines and Dogma are dead ends to enlightenment. Individual relationships without the associated collective organized religions and all the baggage they carry is much more appealing to me.

    The trouble is that “spiritual but not religious” offers no positive exposition or understanding or explanation of a body of belief or set of principles of any kind.

    Individual spirituality is individual understanding.
     
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    I agree with the op that the writer has no idea what spirtual but not religious means.


    He is trying to fit it into the world of organized religion.


    What spiritual but not religious means is that spirtual belief IS NOT a part of the organized religious world.


    It is spirtuality for spiritual reasons and NOT for the benifit of organized religion.


    Many people are begining to believe what they believe and refusing to organize that belief becuase organized religion has for far to long been a source of evil in the world.


    They DEMAND you believe what they believe and then Drag you arround by the nose for the rest of your life.

    FUCK THAT.

    Believe whatever you want to believe.

    believe what comes from your soul.


    fuck organizing
     
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    I once had a dog that was spiritual; but not religious.

    He used to stand in the yard and howl at the moon.

    I think he was some kind of Druid or something?

    But as far as I know, he never attended any religious services. :cool:
     
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    Believe what you want to believe? That really explains a lot about you.

    Problem is, what we want to believe might not necessarily be what is true. The truth is things as they are, as they were, and as they will be. It's not subject to what we want to believe. It's true regardless of what people believe or don't believe.

    And you are wrong TM, if you dont want to believe the principles of happiness, you are free to live otherwise and deal with the consequences otherwise. God doesn't force anyone. He wants a willing heart and mind. That's why charity needs to come from the heart and be voluntary and having your money taken by force and given to others is contrary to what is right.

    And being organized is good. It is an empowering principle.
     
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    Jesus was never worried about who he did or did not impress.
    Jesus ministered with love and compassion, never judging. Jesus ministered to THEIR needs, not some doctrine of the church at that time or past scripture. Most importantly Jesus was a listener and accessible to the people. Jesus got involved in THEIR lives first. Yes, he did speak and teach to large groups but having a relationship with Jesus is a personal one and not a one size fits all one way relationship.
     
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    I've found tha many people who embrace organized religion, find it hard to accept that not embracing an organization can also be a valid and correct choice for many.
     
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    I tend to think that doctrines are like guide posts to finding a "spiritual path" in a faith.

    Rigid Dogmatism tends to kill the spirit of the faithful. Understand, I am saying rigid dogmatism. Some tradition should be held onto until a serious conflict between understanding of what is meant by the practice and actual practice of the faith is discovered.


    I guess the difference between what I am saying and the others probably goes back to what is meant by "spiritual"

    Maybe that would make a good thread topic.

    By the way, organized religion does humanity a favor by publishing and maintaining a library of their beliefs. Without religious literature, how would you learn what is meant by "spiritual"? Not to talk about many other ideas concerning social behavior.
     
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    In this modern age of rejecting organized religion for self spirituality is based on 2 things.


    1) The concept that the individual is basically the "God" over his life.

    And we are free to choose any style and mode of living that we feel is good according to our personal wishes.


    2) There is no such thing as "sin".

    Everything is relative; and so called sin doesn't exist, because God is love and accepts whatever makes us happy.
     

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