Spicer Threatens the Free Press

[Correll]

If I accuse you of being a dog fucker, how would you feel if the AP reported it on the national news feed?

Would that be reasonable of them, to put that out there, with noting to back it up?

The fact that you made the accusation would be a fact. PERIOD.

I couldn't sue the AP, nor would I want to. I would sue YOU.

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!



Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

1. No one is denying that the accusation took place. Please stop wasting my time.

On the contrary, Spicer's attorney already did. He referred specifically to the AP story -- which was that a man walked in and started yelling accusations --- and called for it to be 'retracted'. Which retraction would, if they did so, be a lie. Because in fact a man *DID* walk in and start yelling accusations. As they described.

So in effect he's "ordering" the AP to lie under pain of "legal action". Which in the dearth of any news about such action presumably means he "legally" ordered lunch at Popeye's.





(insert pointless mountain of carriage returns here)

2. Do you think that the media has some moral and/or professional responsibility to verify a vile rumor before spreading it around the world?

I don't think a "rumor" qualifies as news. The whole idea of journalism is that you verify independently that something DID take place.

But again that's not in play here. The action is that a man walked into a Spicer book signing and started yelling an accusation. Whelp --- he did indeed. It's on video. Period.

So, retract the story that included the exact unsupported and vile accusation, and replace it with one more like what you wrote, ie, referring to them, without repeating them.


Which is obviously what they should have done in the first place.

 

[Correll]

The fact that you made the accusation would be a fact. PERIOD.

I couldn't sue the AP, nor would I want to. I would sue YOU.

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!



Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

1. No one is denying that the accusation took place. Please stop wasting my time.

2. Do you think that the media has some moral and/or professional responsibility to verify a vile rumor before spreading it around the world?

Quite possibly/

Refresher on repeating slander.

Liability for Repeating Defamatory Statement - Minc Law

Once AGAIN --- and it's hard to believe y'all are this fucking stupid --- the story is that a man started yelling at Sean Spicer. WHICH HE DID. There is *****NO***** possible way to argue that didn't happen.

NONE. ZERO.

And in reporting the story, they also repeated the slanderous statement.


I understand why you are refusing to see my point, because they you would have to defend what the AP actually did.

 

[Correll]

I see you are still too stupid to understand the difference between "altercation" and "accusation".


No one is denying the altercation took place.

Do you understand that?

Yeah I'm afraid Sean Spicer's attorney is declaring just that. Because that is the sum total of what the AP story --- and the story it quoted --- said.

READ it. That's exactly why I linked it in post number one.

To put this into tiny words, the altercation happened, the AP reported that the altercation happened, and Spicer's lawyer wants the story to NOT GET OUT. And he's threatening "legal" action to, in his verb "retract" the story -- which he can't do, and we know he can't do it.

But if he could he would have the AP come back and declare that this altercation --- which is already reported, witnessed and videoed --- did not happen, which would be a flat out LIE.

NOW do you understand? Or should I illustrate with Lego blocks?

Except that that is not what the lawyer said. He said accusation, not altercation.


Are you insane?

Aaaaaaaaaaannnd we're right back to the question you couldn't answer last night, looking for different results.

That being: What "accusation" did the AP make?

Me, I'm not expecting different results. Reality doesn't work that way.

The bottom line remains --- you can't just stomp around suppressing real stories of real events with "legal actions" just because something happened you wish hadn't happened. Again --- reality doesn't work that way.

Why are you so terrified of reality?

They repeated the accusation that Spicer used the n-word when he was a child.

Exactly....no doubt attempting to smear him as in demonstrate he is a racist because he used the N word when he was l4 yrs. old which he denies.

Based solely on the word of a man who was willing to start a fight over something from, what, 30 years ago that happened when he was a kid? IF it happened at all.


LOL!!


THey think they are clever, but they are not.

 

[Correll]

Yeah I'm afraid Sean Spicer's attorney is declaring just that. Because that is the sum total of what the AP story --- and the story it quoted --- said.

READ it. That's exactly why I linked it in post number one.

To put this into tiny words, the altercation happened, the AP reported that the altercation happened, and Spicer's lawyer wants the story to NOT GET OUT. And he's threatening "legal" action to, in his verb "retract" the story -- which he can't do, and we know he can't do it.

But if he could he would have the AP come back and declare that this altercation --- which is already reported, witnessed and videoed --- did not happen, which would be a flat out LIE.

NOW do you understand? Or should I illustrate with Lego blocks?

Except that that is not what the lawyer said. He said accusation, not altercation.


Are you insane?

Aaaaaaaaaaannnd we're right back to the question you couldn't answer last night, looking for different results.

That being: What "accusation" did the AP make?

Me, I'm not expecting different results. Reality doesn't work that way.

The bottom line remains --- you can't just stomp around suppressing real stories of real events with "legal actions" just because something happened you wish hadn't happened. Again --- reality doesn't work that way.

Why are you so terrified of reality?

They repeated the accusation that Spicer used the n-word when he was a child.

Exactly....no doubt attempting to smear him as in demonstrate he is a racist because he used the N word when he was l4 yrs. old which he denies.

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!



Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

1. No one is denying that the accusation took place. Please stop wasting my time.

2. Do you think that the media has some moral and/or professional responsibility to verify a vile rumor before spreading it around the world?

Quite possibly/

Refresher on repeating slander.

Liability for Repeating Defamatory Statement - Minc Law

Once AGAIN --- and it's hard to believe y'all are this fucking stupid --- the story is that a man started yelling at Sean Spicer. WHICH HE DID. There is *****NO***** possible way to argue that didn't happen.

NONE. ZERO.

No....the story is that spicer used the N word. Ask yourself this....if hillary was at a book signing and some woman started yelling hillary is a lesbian...how do you think the media would have reported that?

Good one.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Note the forum: "US Constitution" -- not Current Events or Politics. This is not (particularly) a story about Sean Spicer. It is a story about the First Amendment and whether it can be curtailed at will.

Spicer Threatens Legal Action over AP Report

>> Former White House press secretary Sean Spicer is threatening to take legal action against The Associated Press over a report from the wire service about an incident on his book tour.

Spicer’s attorney Michael Bowe said in a statement Saturday night that the AP “recklessly republished a categorically false accusation about Sean Spicer.”

“The claim is a lie. Absent an immediate retraction, Mr. Spicer will take legal action Monday,” Bowe said.

The AP report, published Saturday, documented an incident at Spicer’s book signing in Middletown, R.I., on Friday during which a black man claiming to be a former classmate of Spicer’s at Portsmouth Abbey School accused Spicer of using a racial slur.

... Video of the encounter published by NewportRI.com shows the man, identified as Alex Lombard, approaching Spicer at event.

"Sean, I was a day student at [Portsmouth] Abbey, too, with you,” Lombard said.

“Hey," Spicer replies. "Yes, how are you?”

You don’t remember that you tried to fight me?" Lombard said. "But you called me a [n-word] first."

The video then shows security escorting Lombard out of the event.

"I was 14 then. I was a scared kid then, Sean. I’m not scared to fight you now," Lombard can be heard yelling. <<
​

The AP report in question is in the link worded "AP Report". The actual video of the incident taking place, in full, is at the link worded "NewportRI.com".

Obviously the event happened. You can't deny what's clearly visible and audible on video --- yet here's Spicer's attorney threatening just that.

In his campaigning in 2016 Spicer's ex-boss Rump infamously declared he would "open up" libel laws to intimidate journalism and control the flow of information.

​

Perhaps Spicer wishes that could have been a real thing*.


(* "Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free Exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of Speech, or of the Press; or the Right of the People peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of Grievances".)

Long live the First Amendment.

The guy who's no longer in Government threatens a lawsuit, are you saying he doesn't have the right to do that ?
During the Obama administration more journalist were jailed under the Espionage Act than any other administration then there was the spying on reporters. But yeah Trump is the real bad guy. Moron.

 

[Pogo]

Yeah I'm afraid Sean Spicer's attorney is declaring just that. Because that is the sum total of what the AP story --- and the story it quoted --- said.

READ it. That's exactly why I linked it in post number one.

To put this into tiny words, the altercation happened, the AP reported that the altercation happened, and Spicer's lawyer wants the story to NOT GET OUT. And he's threatening "legal" action to, in his verb "retract" the story -- which he can't do, and we know he can't do it.

But if he could he would have the AP come back and declare that this altercation --- which is already reported, witnessed and videoed --- did not happen, which would be a flat out LIE.

NOW do you understand? Or should I illustrate with Lego blocks?

Except that that is not what the lawyer said. He said accusation, not altercation.


Are you insane?

Aaaaaaaaaaannnd we're right back to the question you couldn't answer last night, looking for different results.

That being: What "accusation" did the AP make?

Me, I'm not expecting different results. Reality doesn't work that way.

The bottom line remains --- you can't just stomp around suppressing real stories of real events with "legal actions" just because something happened you wish hadn't happened. Again --- reality doesn't work that way.

Why are you so terrified of reality?

They repeated the accusation that Spicer used the n-word when he was a child.

Exactly....no doubt attempting to smear him as in demonstrate he is a racist because he used the N word when he was l4 yrs. old which he denies.

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!



Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

1. No one is denying that the accusation took place. Please stop wasting my time.

2. Do you think that the media has some moral and/or professional responsibility to verify a vile rumor before spreading it around the world?

Quite possibly/

Refresher on repeating slander.

Liability for Repeating Defamatory Statement - Minc Law

Once AGAIN --- and it's hard to believe y'all are this fucking stupid --- the story is that a man started yelling at Sean Spicer. WHICH HE DID. There is *****NO***** possible way to argue that didn't happen.

NONE. ZERO.

No....the story is that spicer used the N word. Ask yourself this....if hillary was at a book signing and some woman started yelling hillary is a lesbian...how do you think the media would have reported that?

Ah, another tool of the Illiterati checks in. Welcome.

The story, 'Rati, is that a man started bellowing at Spicer. That's exactly what the Rhode Island source reported, and that's exactly what AP reported. That's it, full stop.

Whether Spicer in fact "used the N word" at 15 or at any time, is not known. Nor does anyone claim it IS known, except Mr. Lombard.

Don't believe it? Read it. Quote it and prove me wrong. Diagram the sentences and conjugate the verbs. Do whatever juggling act you have to do to make a printed page say something you wish it said instead of what it actually does say. Take your mendacity dog out for a walk, it needs the exercise.

That's the story and it's undeniable. It's on friggin' VIDEO.

As far as your attempted deflection to not only "b-but... but Hillary", nay, even deeper in the mud to "b-but... but.... what if Hillary..." I seem to remember myriad gifs posted here of Hillary getting something thrown at her on stage, adopting numerous gaping stares and stumbling. Where do you think those came from ---- CGI?

Prosecution rests. And you owe me a nickel on Pogo's Law.

 

[Pogo]

WRONG. They reported it. And duly attributed the accusation to the accuser with complete description. And there's nothing you can do to change that.

Neither AP nor Newport made an accusation at all. Lombard made the accusation. Again, the fact that he leveled that accusation is what we call a "fact". And again it's on VIDEO.

If I accuse you of being a dog fucker, how would you feel if the AP reported it on the national news feed?

Would that be reasonable of them, to put that out there, with noting to back it up?

The fact that you made the accusation would be a fact. PERIOD.

I couldn't sue the AP, nor would I want to. I would sue YOU.

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!



Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

THe responsible thing for the AP to do, would have been to report the childhood classmate of Spicers made some accusations and threats and had to be escorted away be security.

Which is, once again, EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID DO.

Fer FUCK'S SAKE learn how to READ.

This is a perfect example of the folly of being led around by the nose of one's emotions. You're so butthurt that poor Sean Spicer could be accused of something that your eyes glaze over and you become illiterate,.unable to discern who the actor is, and simply swallow Spicer's attorney's bullshit bellowing with no critical thought whatsoever. Here you have unwittingly perfectly described the AP relayed story as "what they should have done", completely oblivious to the fact that it's exactly what the story is and always was, from the beginning --- hence the lack of any legal standing to sue them.

 

[Pogo]

Note the forum: "US Constitution" -- not Current Events or Politics. This is not (particularly) a story about Sean Spicer. It is a story about the First Amendment and whether it can be curtailed at will.

Spicer Threatens Legal Action over AP Report

>> Former White House press secretary Sean Spicer is threatening to take legal action against The Associated Press over a report from the wire service about an incident on his book tour.

Spicer’s attorney Michael Bowe said in a statement Saturday night that the AP “recklessly republished a categorically false accusation about Sean Spicer.”

“The claim is a lie. Absent an immediate retraction, Mr. Spicer will take legal action Monday,” Bowe said.

The AP report, published Saturday, documented an incident at Spicer’s book signing in Middletown, R.I., on Friday during which a black man claiming to be a former classmate of Spicer’s at Portsmouth Abbey School accused Spicer of using a racial slur.

... Video of the encounter published by NewportRI.com shows the man, identified as Alex Lombard, approaching Spicer at event.

"Sean, I was a day student at [Portsmouth] Abbey, too, with you,” Lombard said.

“Hey," Spicer replies. "Yes, how are you?”

You don’t remember that you tried to fight me?" Lombard said. "But you called me a [n-word] first."

The video then shows security escorting Lombard out of the event.

"I was 14 then. I was a scared kid then, Sean. I’m not scared to fight you now," Lombard can be heard yelling. <<
​

The AP report in question is in the link worded "AP Report". The actual video of the incident taking place, in full, is at the link worded "NewportRI.com".

Obviously the event happened. You can't deny what's clearly visible and audible on video --- yet here's Spicer's attorney threatening just that.

In his campaigning in 2016 Spicer's ex-boss Rump infamously declared he would "open up" libel laws to intimidate journalism and control the flow of information.

​

Perhaps Spicer wishes that could have been a real thing*.


(* "Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free Exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of Speech, or of the Press; or the Right of the People peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of Grievances".)

Long live the First Amendment.

The guy who's no longer in Government threatens a lawsuit, are you saying he doesn't have the right to do that ?
During the Obama administration more journalist were jailed under the Espionage Act than any other administration then there was the spying on reporters. But yeah Trump is the real bad guy. Moron.

I'm saying he has no legal standing to file a suit, if that's what he meant.

And judging by the completely predictable absence of any such "legal action taken on Monday" --- which we know perfectly well is and always was bullshit flung to intimidate and cover up a story --- the attorney knows that perfectly well too. And yet there he is trying to push the AP around to suppress an embarrassing incident out of public discourse. Which he had to know from the start he CAN'T DO.

There is your "moron". He took an incident of a heckler and inflated it into a bigger story by creating his own story about threatening the First Amendment. That's *FAR* more severe that a heckler spewing vitriol. That story could have died the same day if lawyer-boy hadn't put it on steroids. One guy levels an N-word charge at another, big he said-he said deal. A lawyer threatens the First Amendment, that's a whole 'nother ball game.

And you owe me at least a nickel for devoting most of your post to a "look over there" deflection. Let's call it a dime.

 

[OldLady]

Wow, from 14, he looked him up for a rematch? What a loser.

It is pretty pathetic that the AP though that was worth reporting.

Irrelevant. It's an event that happened. How anyone "feels" about it is immaterial to the fact that they have the right to disseminate the information.

Sure. They have the right to do that.


But it shows that they are completely partisan pieces of shit.

Again --- your opinion is entitled, but still irrelevant.

Once again for the slow readers, this is a thread about the Constitution and how it works, not whether a news story that crosses your path is made of unicorns. Thank you for your vote in support of the COTUS, however distasteful it must have been.

No, if the media is doing a bad job, then talking about it, and holding the accountable, is not out of bounds.


Your assumption that any criticism of the press is tantamount to "threatening the free press" is just you fighting against any pushback to their unchecked abuse of power.

I'll simply quote, again, from the story in my OP:

Spicer’s attorney Michael Bowe said in a statement Saturday night that the AP “recklessly republished a categorically false accusation about Sean Spicer.”

“The claim is a lie. Absent an immediate retraction, Mr. Spicer will take legal action Monday,” Bowe said.​

Get that now? This attorney is claiming the altercation ---- CLEARLY CAPTURED ON VIDEO AND AUDIO --- is "categorically false". He's saying that what's on video did not happen.

Understand? And he's demanding that AP ---- which didn't even originate the story but passed on a report from the Newport site ---- "retract" their news that the altercation happened. That would be --- again --- the altercation that happened in front of dozens of witnesses and was actually recorded. In full.

If that ain't threatening the free press I'm the god damned queen of Belgium.

Spicer is saying what was stated by the old classmate didn't happen. He just said it wrong. He needs to be suing the classmate, if that's what he's after, not AP.

 

[Pogo]

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!



Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

1. No one is denying that the accusation took place. Please stop wasting my time.

2. Do you think that the media has some moral and/or professional responsibility to verify a vile rumor before spreading it around the world?

Quite possibly/

Refresher on repeating slander.

Liability for Repeating Defamatory Statement - Minc Law

Once AGAIN --- and it's hard to believe y'all are this fucking stupid --- the story is that a man started yelling at Sean Spicer. WHICH HE DID. There is *****NO***** possible way to argue that didn't happen.

NONE. ZERO.

And in reporting the story, they also repeated the slanderous statement.


I understand why you are refusing to see my point, because they you would have to defend what the AP actually did.

Whether Lombard's statement is slanderous would be a legal matter. And Spicer would certainly have legal standing to take action against him, as the leveler of that accusation.

But that's not what lawyer-boy threatened, is it. Nor did he threaten the Newport source that originally reported it. No, he threatened the Associated Press for passing on an already-existing story which itself is documented on video, that the incident HAPPENED. Which clearly, IT DID.

In other words lawyer-boy's priority isn't Sean Spicer's reputation --- it's suppressing the news that may affect it. Which he has zero power to do.

 

[Pogo]

And btw since the original story there are myriad more stories that the lawyer says the accusation isn't true.

Once again, the story is the lawyer saying that. The story is not "it isn't true". We have no way to know what happened or didn't happen. What we do know, and what this story is, is that the lawyer SAID it didn't.

Imagine if you will Mr. Lombard suing Fox Noise for reporting that the lawyer SAID that. Same fuggin' thing.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Note the forum: "US Constitution" -- not Current Events or Politics. This is not (particularly) a story about Sean Spicer. It is a story about the First Amendment and whether it can be curtailed at will.

Spicer Threatens Legal Action over AP Report

>> Former White House press secretary Sean Spicer is threatening to take legal action against The Associated Press over a report from the wire service about an incident on his book tour.

Spicer’s attorney Michael Bowe said in a statement Saturday night that the AP “recklessly republished a categorically false accusation about Sean Spicer.”

“The claim is a lie. Absent an immediate retraction, Mr. Spicer will take legal action Monday,” Bowe said.

The AP report, published Saturday, documented an incident at Spicer’s book signing in Middletown, R.I., on Friday during which a black man claiming to be a former classmate of Spicer’s at Portsmouth Abbey School accused Spicer of using a racial slur.

... Video of the encounter published by NewportRI.com shows the man, identified as Alex Lombard, approaching Spicer at event.

"Sean, I was a day student at [Portsmouth] Abbey, too, with you,” Lombard said.

“Hey," Spicer replies. "Yes, how are you?”

You don’t remember that you tried to fight me?" Lombard said. "But you called me a [n-word] first."

The video then shows security escorting Lombard out of the event.

"I was 14 then. I was a scared kid then, Sean. I’m not scared to fight you now," Lombard can be heard yelling. <<
​

The AP report in question is in the link worded "AP Report". The actual video of the incident taking place, in full, is at the link worded "NewportRI.com".

Obviously the event happened. You can't deny what's clearly visible and audible on video --- yet here's Spicer's attorney threatening just that.

In his campaigning in 2016 Spicer's ex-boss Rump infamously declared he would "open up" libel laws to intimidate journalism and control the flow of information.

​

Perhaps Spicer wishes that could have been a real thing*.


(* "Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free Exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of Speech, or of the Press; or the Right of the People peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of Grievances".)

Long live the First Amendment.

The guy who's no longer in Government threatens a lawsuit, are you saying he doesn't have the right to do that ?
During the Obama administration more journalist were jailed under the Espionage Act than any other administration then there was the spying on reporters. But yeah Trump is the real bad guy. Moron.

I'm saying he has no legal standing to file a suit, if that's what he meant.

And judging by the completely predictable absence of any such "legal action taken on Monday" --- which we know perfectly well is and always was bullshit flung to intimidate and cover up a story --- the attorney knows that perfectly well too. And yet there he is trying to push the AP around to suppress an embarrassing incident out of public discourse. Which he had to know from the start he CAN'T DO.

There is your "moron". He took an incident of a heckler and inflated it into a bigger story by creating his own story about threatening the First Amendment. That's *FAR* more severe that a heckler spewing vitriol. That story could have died the same day if lawyer-boy hadn't put it on steroids. One guy levels an N-word charge at another, big he said-he said deal. A lawyer threatens the First Amendment, that's a whole 'nother ball game.

And you owe me at least a nickel for devoting most of your post to a "look over there" deflection. Let's call it a dime.

Spicer is a private citizen he has a right to sue for liable and that has fuck all to do with freedom of the press. You lefties keep hammering on Trump about the 1st Amendment please post any actions taken by the Administration that limit freedom of the press ?
My inclusion of the Obama administrations actions against journalist was not a defection its very relevant, showing that you and your ilk are a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[Correll]

If I accuse you of being a dog fucker, how would you feel if the AP reported it on the national news feed?

Would that be reasonable of them, to put that out there, with noting to back it up?

The fact that you made the accusation would be a fact. PERIOD.

I couldn't sue the AP, nor would I want to. I would sue YOU.

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!



Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

THe responsible thing for the AP to do, would have been to report the childhood classmate of Spicers made some accusations and threats and had to be escorted away be security.

Which is, once again, EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID DO.

Fer FUCK'S SAKE learn how to READ.

This is a perfect example of the folly of being led around by the nose of one's emotions. You're so butthurt that poor Sean Spicer could be accused of something that your eyes glaze over and you become illiterate,.unable to discern who the actor is, and simply swallow Spicer's attorney's bullshit bellowing with no critical thought whatsoever. Here you have unwittingly perfectly described the AP relayed story as "what they should have done", completely oblivious to the fact that it's exactly what the story is and always was, from the beginning --- hence the lack of any legal standing to sue them.

Are you claiming that they did not include the details of the unsupported accusations?

 

[Correll]

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

1. No one is denying that the accusation took place. Please stop wasting my time.

2. Do you think that the media has some moral and/or professional responsibility to verify a vile rumor before spreading it around the world?

Quite possibly/

Refresher on repeating slander.

Liability for Repeating Defamatory Statement - Minc Law

Once AGAIN --- and it's hard to believe y'all are this fucking stupid --- the story is that a man started yelling at Sean Spicer. WHICH HE DID. There is *****NO***** possible way to argue that didn't happen.

NONE. ZERO.

And in reporting the story, they also repeated the slanderous statement.


I understand why you are refusing to see my point, because they you would have to defend what the AP actually did.

Whether Lombard's statement is slanderous would be a legal matter. And Spicer would certainly have legal standing to take action against him, as the leveler of that accusation.

But that's not what lawyer-boy threatened, is it. Nor did he threaten the Newport source that originally reported it. No, he threatened the Associated Press for passing on an already-existing story which itself is documented on video, that the incident HAPPENED. Which clearly, IT DID.

In other words lawyer-boy's priority isn't Sean Spicer's reputation --- it's suppressing the news that may affect it. Which he has zero power to do.

Please stop arguing that the incident happened. You are obviously just dodging the point.

 

[Pogo]

1. No one is denying that the accusation took place. Please stop wasting my time.

2. Do you think that the media has some moral and/or professional responsibility to verify a vile rumor before spreading it around the world?

Quite possibly/

Refresher on repeating slander.

Liability for Repeating Defamatory Statement - Minc Law

Once AGAIN --- and it's hard to believe y'all are this fucking stupid --- the story is that a man started yelling at Sean Spicer. WHICH HE DID. There is *****NO***** possible way to argue that didn't happen.

NONE. ZERO.

And in reporting the story, they also repeated the slanderous statement.


I understand why you are refusing to see my point, because they you would have to defend what the AP actually did.

Whether Lombard's statement is slanderous would be a legal matter. And Spicer would certainly have legal standing to take action against him, as the leveler of that accusation.

But that's not what lawyer-boy threatened, is it. Nor did he threaten the Newport source that originally reported it. No, he threatened the Associated Press for passing on an already-existing story which itself is documented on video, that the incident HAPPENED. Which clearly, IT DID.

In other words lawyer-boy's priority isn't Sean Spicer's reputation --- it's suppressing the news that may affect it. Which he has zero power to do.

Please stop arguing that the incident happened. You are obviously just dodging the point.

That IS the point. That's the sum total complete entirety of the AP story. The one lawyer-boy threw a hissyfit over and demanded "retraction" or he'd hold his breath until he turned blue. Which is exactly what he did.

 

[Correll]

Quite possibly/

Refresher on repeating slander.

Liability for Repeating Defamatory Statement - Minc Law

Once AGAIN --- and it's hard to believe y'all are this fucking stupid --- the story is that a man started yelling at Sean Spicer. WHICH HE DID. There is *****NO***** possible way to argue that didn't happen.

NONE. ZERO.

And in reporting the story, they also repeated the slanderous statement.


I understand why you are refusing to see my point, because they you would have to defend what the AP actually did.

Whether Lombard's statement is slanderous would be a legal matter. And Spicer would certainly have legal standing to take action against him, as the leveler of that accusation.

But that's not what lawyer-boy threatened, is it. Nor did he threaten the Newport source that originally reported it. No, he threatened the Associated Press for passing on an already-existing story which itself is documented on video, that the incident HAPPENED. Which clearly, IT DID.

In other words lawyer-boy's priority isn't Sean Spicer's reputation --- it's suppressing the news that may affect it. Which he has zero power to do.

Please stop arguing that the incident happened. You are obviously just dodging the point.

That IS the point. That's the sum total complete entirety of the AP story. The one lawyer-boy threw a hissyfit over and demanded "retraction" or he'd hold his breath until he turned blue. Which is exactly what he did.

No, it is not.


And your refusal to address the point, is obviously because you know that the AP's actions are indefensible.

 

[Pogo]

The fact that you made the accusation would be a fact. PERIOD.

I couldn't sue the AP, nor would I want to. I would sue YOU.

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!

Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

THe responsible thing for the AP to do, would have been to report the childhood classmate of Spicers made some accusations and threats and had to be escorted away be security.

Which is, once again, EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID DO.

Fer FUCK'S SAKE learn how to READ.

This is a perfect example of the folly of being led around by the nose of one's emotions. You're so butthurt that poor Sean Spicer could be accused of something that your eyes glaze over and you become illiterate,.unable to discern who the actor is, and simply swallow Spicer's attorney's bullshit bellowing with no critical thought whatsoever. Here you have unwittingly perfectly described the AP relayed story as "what they should have done", completely oblivious to the fact that it's exactly what the story is and always was, from the beginning --- hence the lack of any legal standing to sue them.

Are you claiming that they did not include the details of the unsupported accusations?

What possible reason could there be to claim that? Of course they included the details. That's what makes it a story. If somebody had come in claiming Sean Spicer had double parked outside the store -- not a story, or at least far less (although the accusatiton still would have happened).

Once AGAIN it's on video, with audio. That's where the accusation is captured.

Why don't you essplain to the class how you could write this story --- WITHOUT those details.

 

[Correll]

And you would be fine, having it spread around the nation, that you are a dog fucker, with absolutely no reason to believe it is true?

LOL!!!!

Sure you would.


The AP are vile scum.

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

THe responsible thing for the AP to do, would have been to report the childhood classmate of Spicers made some accusations and threats and had to be escorted away be security.

Which is, once again, EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID DO.

Fer FUCK'S SAKE learn how to READ.

This is a perfect example of the folly of being led around by the nose of one's emotions. You're so butthurt that poor Sean Spicer could be accused of something that your eyes glaze over and you become illiterate,.unable to discern who the actor is, and simply swallow Spicer's attorney's bullshit bellowing with no critical thought whatsoever. Here you have unwittingly perfectly described the AP relayed story as "what they should have done", completely oblivious to the fact that it's exactly what the story is and always was, from the beginning --- hence the lack of any legal standing to sue them.

Are you claiming that they did not include the details of the unsupported accusations?

What possible reason could there be to claim that? Of course they included the details. That's what makes it a story. If somebody had come in claiming Sean Spicer had double parked outside the store -- not a story, or at least far less (although the accusatiton still would have happened).

Once AGAIN it's on video, with audio. That's where the accusation is captured.

Why don't you essplain to the class how you could write this story --- WITHOUT those details.

"A man who claimed to be a childhood fellow student of Spicer's, confronted him at a book signing and made a number of inflammatory and unsupported accusations and threatened Spicer with violence.

He was escorted away by security."



Wow. That was hard. All the relevant points, and without giving a platform for unsupported slander.

 

[Pogo]

Note the forum: "US Constitution" -- not Current Events or Politics. This is not (particularly) a story about Sean Spicer. It is a story about the First Amendment and whether it can be curtailed at will.

Spicer Threatens Legal Action over AP Report

>> Former White House press secretary Sean Spicer is threatening to take legal action against The Associated Press over a report from the wire service about an incident on his book tour.

Spicer’s attorney Michael Bowe said in a statement Saturday night that the AP “recklessly republished a categorically false accusation about Sean Spicer.”

“The claim is a lie. Absent an immediate retraction, Mr. Spicer will take legal action Monday,” Bowe said.

The AP report, published Saturday, documented an incident at Spicer’s book signing in Middletown, R.I., on Friday during which a black man claiming to be a former classmate of Spicer’s at Portsmouth Abbey School accused Spicer of using a racial slur.

... Video of the encounter published by NewportRI.com shows the man, identified as Alex Lombard, approaching Spicer at event.

"Sean, I was a day student at [Portsmouth] Abbey, too, with you,” Lombard said.

“Hey," Spicer replies. "Yes, how are you?”

You don’t remember that you tried to fight me?" Lombard said. "But you called me a [n-word] first."

The video then shows security escorting Lombard out of the event.

"I was 14 then. I was a scared kid then, Sean. I’m not scared to fight you now," Lombard can be heard yelling. <<
​

The AP report in question is in the link worded "AP Report". The actual video of the incident taking place, in full, is at the link worded "NewportRI.com".

Obviously the event happened. You can't deny what's clearly visible and audible on video --- yet here's Spicer's attorney threatening just that.

In his campaigning in 2016 Spicer's ex-boss Rump infamously declared he would "open up" libel laws to intimidate journalism and control the flow of information.

​

Perhaps Spicer wishes that could have been a real thing*.


(* "Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free Exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of Speech, or of the Press; or the Right of the People peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of Grievances".)

Long live the First Amendment.

The guy who's no longer in Government threatens a lawsuit, are you saying he doesn't have the right to do that ?
During the Obama administration more journalist were jailed under the Espionage Act than any other administration then there was the spying on reporters. But yeah Trump is the real bad guy. Moron.

I'm saying he has no legal standing to file a suit, if that's what he meant.

And judging by the completely predictable absence of any such "legal action taken on Monday" --- which we know perfectly well is and always was bullshit flung to intimidate and cover up a story --- the attorney knows that perfectly well too. And yet there he is trying to push the AP around to suppress an embarrassing incident out of public discourse. Which he had to know from the start he CAN'T DO.

There is your "moron". He took an incident of a heckler and inflated it into a bigger story by creating his own story about threatening the First Amendment. That's *FAR* more severe that a heckler spewing vitriol. That story could have died the same day if lawyer-boy hadn't put it on steroids. One guy levels an N-word charge at another, big he said-he said deal. A lawyer threatens the First Amendment, that's a whole 'nother ball game.

And you owe me at least a nickel for devoting most of your post to a "look over there" deflection. Let's call it a dime.

Spicer is a private citizen he has a right to sue for liable and that has fuck all to do with freedom of the press. You lefties keep hammering on Trump about the 1st Amendment please post any actions taken by the Administration that limit freedom of the press ?
My inclusion of the Obama administrations actions against journalist was not a defection its very relevant, showing that you and your ilk are a bunch of hypocrites.

First off it's "libel" and that refers to the printed (or broadcast) word, wheras slander describes speech.

The AP -- which involves the printed word --- made no accusation about anybody. It simply re-reported the occurrence of an incident, wherein a man named Lombard made an accusation.

THE ACCUSER IS LOMBARD. The AP is the messenger. And not even the original one. Lawyer-boy is trying to strongarm the MESSENGER. Not the accuser --- the MESSENGER.

I should say "was" trying, as Monday has come and gone with no legal action, which would have been impossible anyway because he was just posing for a foldout in Arrogant Prick of the Month Magazine.

This shit simply needs to be called out for what it is, immediately. So I did. And there's nothing you and your deflector shields can do about that.

 

[Pogo]

Sure I would. Because the AP didn't make the accusation ------------ YOU did. That's why you'd get sued. All the AP did was report the fact that you said it. There ain't nothing false about that if you did.

And in this case it's on video. You can't deny something happened when it's recorded and eyewitnessed. What the HELL is wrong with you?

What, you think you can just toss out slander and get away with it as long as nobody reports it? Is that how your planet works?

No Hunior, not on this one. Here you take responsibility for what YOU say. You don't just suppress the reporting that you said it.

THe responsible thing for the AP to do, would have been to report the childhood classmate of Spicers made some accusations and threats and had to be escorted away be security.

Which is, once again, EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID DO.

Fer FUCK'S SAKE learn how to READ.

This is a perfect example of the folly of being led around by the nose of one's emotions. You're so butthurt that poor Sean Spicer could be accused of something that your eyes glaze over and you become illiterate,.unable to discern who the actor is, and simply swallow Spicer's attorney's bullshit bellowing with no critical thought whatsoever. Here you have unwittingly perfectly described the AP relayed story as "what they should have done", completely oblivious to the fact that it's exactly what the story is and always was, from the beginning --- hence the lack of any legal standing to sue them.

Are you claiming that they did not include the details of the unsupported accusations?

What possible reason could there be to claim that? Of course they included the details. That's what makes it a story. If somebody had come in claiming Sean Spicer had double parked outside the store -- not a story, or at least far less (although the accusatiton still would have happened).

Once AGAIN it's on video, with audio. That's where the accusation is captured.

Why don't you essplain to the class how you could write this story --- WITHOUT those details.

"A man who claimed to be a childhood fellow student of Spicer's, confronted him at a book signing and made a number of inflammatory and unsupported accusations and threatened Spicer with violence.

He was escorted away by security."



Wow. That was hard. All the relevant points, and without giving a platform for unsupported slander.

Yuh huh. And what do you do about the video that contains all those details?

You know -- the video that was already out, on the Newport site. The original report that interestingly said the same thing yet got NO threats from Lawyer-Boy, which strongly indicates his interest is not only suppressing the story but concern with how many people will see it.

So what do you do? Hire an actor to dub different words in there? Tell me how this reinvention of the news works. My German is a bit rusty.

And while you're at it see if you can handle post 71.