Spain Challenging France!

[Ali]

This is some of the most insipid and hateful material I have ever read. Moreover, the assertions in your post are categorically false. The 311 attacks were designed to change the Spanish government. They succeeded. The 311 murderers knew that if they could get the Socialists to win, then the Spanish would cut and run from Iraq. When they fled from Iraq, the Spanish people demonstrated that they feared terrorists more than their loss of their honor. In disgrace, they joined the cynical French who were more interested in continuing their illegal businesses with the despicable Iraqi dictator than they were in claiming an honorable place in history. The only thing larger than French avarice in Iraq is their abject moral, political, and military, irrelevance.

Goebbels would be proud of propaganda like that.

But at least he could spell.

The Cold War is over, buddy. You don't have to spout emotional anti-socialist rhetoric any more.

Spain's President Aznar went to war against the wishes of the Spanish People

The new Spanish prime minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, was very careful in his choice of words. "Military intervention in Iraq was a political mistake," he said on March 15. "It divided more than it united; there were no reasons for it. Time has shown that the arguments for it lacked credibility . . . Blair and Bush must do some reflection . . . you can't organize a war with lies. The Spanish troops will come back [from Iraq]."

Zapatero made exactly the same argument a year ago, when the United States was about to invade Iraq and then-prime minister Jose Maria Aznar was cheering it on. Over 80 percent of the Spanish people agreed with Zapatero about Iraq then, and they still do today. He did not say a single word about appeasing terrorism, and nor does anyone else in Spain want to do that after a terrorist attack that killed over 200 commuters in Madrid. They are just sick of being lied to, and they don't believe that Iraq had anything to do with terrorism.

The reaction in the United States, however, has been distinctly ungenerous. "The plain fact is that the Spanish electorate displayed craven cowardice by electing the Socialists. It embraced the wrong-headed notion -- so dismayingly popular in Europe -- that to adopt any policy more resolute than abject appeasement of terrorists is to invite terrorist attacks," wrote the New York Post

George Bush pays Rupert Murdoch to make you believe that Spain capitulated to the terrorists, when in fact they were just doing what they wanted to do in the first place, ie get the hell out of the mess you've gotten them into.

Please don't think I was not shocked and horrified by what happened on 9/11 or by the Madrid bombings, or by Darfour, or Rwanda, or Zimbabwe or Belfast, or Palestine. All acts of violence horrify and disgust me, whether it is the flying of civillian aircraft into office blocks or the bombing of cities from 20,000 feet, it is just the same to me and it has to STOP.

 

[dilloduck]

Goebbels would be proud of propaganda like that.

But at least he could spell.

The Cold War is over, buddy. You don't have to spout emotional anti-socialist rhetoric any more.

Spain's President Aznar went to war against the wishes of the Spanish People

George Bush pays Rupert Murdoch to make you believe that Spain capitulated to the terrorists, when in fact they were just doing what they wanted to do in the first place, ie get the hell out of the mess you've gotten them into.

Please don't think I was not shocked and horrified by what happened on 9/11 or by the Madrid bombings, or by Darfour, or Rwanda, or Zimbabwe or Belfast, or Palestine. All acts of violence horrify and disgust me, whether it is the flying of civillian aircraft into office blocks or the bombing of cities from 20,000 feet, it is just the same to me and it has to STOP.

Why don't you have a tete-a tete with osama?

 

[onedomino]

Goebbels would be proud of propaganda like that.

But at least he could spell.

The Cold War is over, buddy. You don't have to spout emotional anti-socialist rhetoric any more.

Spain's President Aznar went to war against the wishes of the Spanish People

George Bush pays Rupert Murdoch to make you believe that Spain capitulated to the terrorists, when in fact they were just doing what they wanted to do in the first place, ie get the hell out of the mess you've gotten them into.

Please don't think I was not shocked and horrified by what happened on 9/11 or by the Madrid bombings, or by Darfour, or Rwanda, or Zimbabwe or Belfast, or Palestine. All acts of violence horrify and disgust me, whether it is the flying of civillian aircraft into office blocks or the bombing of cities from 20,000 feet, it is just the same to me and it has to STOP.

There is not a single misspelled word in my post. Nitwit. I am sure that you are quite familiar with Nazi propaganda since the French helped write lots of it during WW2, as Vichy France sent more than 100,000 French Jews to the death camps.

 

[NATO AIR]

There is not a single misspelled word in my post. Nitwit. I am sure that you are quite familar with Nazi propaganda since the French helped write lots of it during WW2, as Vichy France sent more than 100,000 French Jews to the death camps.

damn!!!!!!


hey ali, blair's basically socialist, i think the world of him... he's the most well respected foreign leader in america, and probably on this board too... guess we're not spouting off anti-socialist propoganda as much as you think...

 

[dilloduck]

Goebbels would be proud of propaganda like that.

But at least he could spell.

The Cold War is over, buddy. You don't have to spout emotional anti-socialist rhetoric any more.

Spain's President Aznar went to war against the wishes of the Spanish People

George Bush pays Rupert Murdoch to make you believe that Spain capitulated to the terrorists, when in fact they were just doing what they wanted to do in the first place, ie get the hell out of the mess you've gotten them into.

Please don't think I was not shocked and horrified by what happened on 9/11 or by the Madrid bombings, or by Darfour, or Rwanda, or Zimbabwe or Belfast, or Palestine. All acts of violence horrify and disgust me, whether it is the flying of civillian aircraft into office blocks or the bombing of cities from 20,000 feet, it is just the same to me and it has to STOP.

Typical "French" garbage----You just want it to stop because you say so?
What are you gonna do if it doesn't, throw some old caviar at someone? Maybe if you would quit arming hate-filled idiots it would help. I think your a fraud :sausage:

 

[Ali]

you guys probably would still be dictatorships if we hadn't ensured that freedom and democracy were the foundations of your governments.

"We"

YOU joined the second world war in 1941, and only because YOU were attacked by the Japanese.

Germany invaded Poland in 1939, France in 1940 and the D-Day landings were in 1944.

WHERE WERE YOU THEN?

YOU yellowbellied snakes sold steel to the Nazis and only arrived in Europe after all the main fighting had been done, mainly by the Russians, to mop up the remaining Germans (killing thousands of French civilians in the process) and claim Europe as your own. Allied soldiers feared American soldiers far more than the Germans, due to the Yank tendency to panic under fire and shoot members of their own side by mistake (something which continues to happen, as we can see in Iraq).

I'm sorry, but you have absolutely no right to pretend that you singlehandedly won the second war and liberated all of Europe, because you didn't. You came in at the end after letting the Nazis murder millions. You should be ashamed.

 

[NATO AIR]

you'd be the first to sign up for that "seperate peace" deal osama was offering a while back...and i still wouldn't be surprised if you french do pull that off, considering your next president will probably be way left of chirac.

 

[dilloduck]

"We"

YOU joined the second world war in 1941, and only because YOU were attacked by the Japanese.

Germany invaded Poland in 1939, France in 1940 and the D-Day landings were in 1944.

WHERE WERE YOU THEN?

YOU yellowbellied snakes sold steel to the Nazis and only arrived in Europe after all the main fighting had been done, mainly by the Russians, to mop up the remaining Germans (killing thousands of French civilians in the process) and claim Europe as your own. Allied soldiers feared American soldiers far more than the Germans, due to the Yank tendency to panic under fire and shoot members of their own side by mistake (something which continues to happen, as we can see in Iraq).

I'm sorry, but you have absolutely no right to pretend that you singlehandedly won the second war and liberated all of Europe, because you didn't. You came in at the end after letting the Nazis murder millions. You should be ashamed.

We'll we could have stayed out of the whole damn thing and let Russia or Germany own the whole damn continent

 

[Ali]

he's the most well respected foreign leader in america, and probably on this board too...

Too bad he's utterly despised in the UK

 

[NATO AIR]

There is not a single misspelled word in my post. Nitwit. I am sure that you are quite familiar with Nazi propaganda since the French helped write lots of it during WW2, as Vichy France sent more than 100,000 French Jews to the death camps.

i guess that was part of your grand french plan to undermine the nazis... sounds to me like you guys gave up the jews to save yourselves...

i want links from reputable sites (not some french revisionist wacko) about the american soldiers performing that poorly.

we kicked german ass all over western europe. what the hell do you think we did in north africa and in the med?

you french surrendered and called it a day (except for the brave resistance, of which most french nowadays couldn't even begin to comprehend)

 

[NATO AIR]

funny how blair is still going to win reelection if he desires

even better how we saved your french asses in ww1 as well

and by the way, i won't lie, we were an isolationist nation before 1941... that was kinda because we spent so much money and lives cleaning up your damn mess from ww1.

 

[Ali]

We'll we could have stayed out of the whole damn thing and let Russia or Germany own the whole damn continent

You should have stayed out of the Middle East as well.

And South and Central America and South Central Asia.

It seems you just have to interfere with the rest of the world.

Why is this?

Why can't you just stay the fuck in your own country and leave the rest of us alone?

Oil

You don't have any oil, do you?

Bummer for us, isn't it?

 

[NATO AIR]

we got oil...don't you worry about that.

and if we'd stayed the fuck out of the world, you'd be speaking german and probably (presumably not being blond and blue eyed) you'd be in a concentration camp right now.

you think hitler would have stopped with the jews, the slavs, the cripples, the insane and the gypsies?

 

[dilloduck]

You should have stayed out of the Middle East as well.

And South and Central America and South Central Asia.

It seems you just have to interfere with the rest of the world.

Why is this?

Why can't you just stay the fuck in your own country and leave the rest of us alone?

Oil

You don't have any oil, do you?

Bummer for us, isn't it?

you would love that wouldnt you-------are we messing up your arms and trade deals with barabaric countries. The rest of the world interfered with us and We are gonna kick their ass for it. Hide and watch, froggy!

 

[NATO AIR]

and the crazy part is, every time america does try to stay out of the world, it comes back to bite us in the ass bad... so we're not playing that anymore.

and since you doublecrossed us at the UN and in Iraq (and god knows where else) we're gonna be all up in your shit from here on out, whether you like it or not.

 

[Ali]

even better how we saved your french asses in ww1 as well

and how the French helped you BECOME a nation in the first place.

Amazing how that very salient fact is ignored by the Murdoch propagandists.

Please explain to me why Russia and Germany are left unscathed while France is so viciously attacked when both these countries were once at war with the US while the country who helped you beat the British (who are now your only allies) is suddenly the Bad Guy?

Illogical, captain.

BTW, just because I live in France doesn't mean I'm French, so keep up the purile insults, je ne soigne pas.

 

[dilloduck]

and how the French helped you BECOME a nation in the first place.

Amazing how that very salient fact is ignored by the Murdoch propagandists.

Please explain to me why Russia and Germany are left unscathed while France is so viciously attacked when both these countries were once at war with the US while the country who helped you beat the British (who are now your only allies) is suddenly the Bad Guy?

Illogical, captain.

BTW, just because I live in France doesn't mean I'm French, so keep up the purile insults, je ne soigne pas.

I knew you were a fraud---what country are you really from?

 

[Ali]

are we messing up your arms and trade deals with barabaric countries.

Oh, man. You are just too thick for words.

Do I have to start on who's who in the international Arms Trade business?

I think we all know that France and Russia fall far, far behind US, UK and Israel.

Can you google for Iran-Contra?

Let me know what you find, OK?

:ali:

 

[dilloduck]

Oh, man. You are just too thick for words.

Do I have to start on who's who in the international Arms Trade business?

I think we all know that France and Russia fall far, far behind US, UK and Israel.

Can you google for Iran-Contra?

Let me know what you find, OK?

:ali:

and where is it you said you were from?

 

[Ali]

I knew you were a fraud---what country are you really from?

I wasn't pretending to be French. When did I say I was French?

I was born in Scotland, grew up in South Africa and now I live in France.

What country are YOU really from?

Unless you are Mesquite, Apache, Navaho or some other Native American, I would wager that you are a descendant of one of the Europeans who settled the US.

So who's the fraud?

:ali:

cool! I have my own smiley!!! Who made it?!?