Spain Challenging France!

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    that is so sad, i'm sure that is just a fraction of the spanish people though right?
     
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    Thank you for letting me know that such people exist in Spain; a country I used to respect before they cut and ran like cowards from Iraq.

    The ad was infuriating. It was disrespectful of the thousands of people murdered in New York by despicable Muslim barbarians.
     
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    i do agree that aznar's alliance with bush cost him dearly among the spanish electorate, but i think the real reason he lost the election via 3/11 was that he was so intent, so focused, so closedminded on whether it was the ETA or not. he immediately pinned the bombings on the ETA, and kept blaming them even when it became clear that some other party was involved (al-queda in this case). that hurt him dearly, perhaps more so than his iraqi freedom support.
     
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    Sure it's a 'fraction' my guess, 65/100. On your later post, I concur, the sign posts of al Quaida were apparent pretty quickly, not sure why Azar was so fixated on ETA, whose MO called for warnings and minimizing civilian casualties, not to mention they seemed incapable of such a large scale, coordinated attack.

    Nonetheless, welcome Spain, to the Axis of Weasels!
     
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    Yes, there was the confusion about the ETA. As I recall, however, it only lasted a couple of days before Spanish police started to focus on Islamic terrorists. I find the initial attention given to the ETA understandable in light of its murderous history in Spain.

    What I have trouble with is the Spanish electorate's response to the 311 terrorist attack. Instead of displaying courage, they voted for the Fear Party running Cowardice for PM.
     
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    Actually the police immediately began to focus on al Quaida, they found the tapes, Korans, and explosives-they KNEW it wasn't ETA. For some reason, Azar thought he'd be in better political shape with ETA. He thought wrong.
     
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    yea, see the elections were that sunday and the bombing was just a few days before the election...aznar made a political gamble that he could pin it on the ETA, and it blew up in his face and cost him his office.
     
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    I realize that for a few days prior to the election the Spanish socialist politicians and media pounded on the ETA v. Muslim discrepancy. Do you think that if Aznar had blamed Islamic terrorists immediately that the electorate would have backed him at the polls? Perhaps I am wrong, but my impression was that the Spanish electorate was overcome by fear and that the bombing itself was the principle reason Anzar lost.
     
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    it may have saved him. he could have shown real leadership and talked about the threat of islamic fundamentalism and the need to defend Spain and her interests. Instead, he misled them and appeared weak. i was not aware he'd been studying chirac's leadership style so much.
     

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