Southwest flight attendant takes baby away after seeing it slapped by her mother

Yes, slapping a 13 month old while trapped in a plane seat is counter-productive. There is no way it's going to do anything other than enrage the baby and totally irritate the other passengers.
 
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My daughter also would get popped for biting, which she did often and viciously. For that I would slap her lips. It didn't work, though. She didn't quit biting until about a year ago (she's almost 8 now).

Guess what we did? You'll die, it's barbaric. She bit her brother on the back, hard enough to leave marks that lasted (a few times). My second boy, who is in his 20s, finally had had enough and the last time she did it, he took her aside, called the bitten one over, and said, "Now it's your turn" and held out her arm.

Lol. We ended up doing that twice only, and that was the end of the biting forever. I wish I'd thought of it sooner. It wouldn't work for a tiny baby, but it worked for the kids.

And the one we allowed to bite her is soft-hearted, he didn't (and we knew he wouldn't) bite her hard. But she was appalled.

The thing is, you just don't know. I know there are abusive people out there, but there is no way to know second and third hand whether this was abuse.

I've also had a Walmart checker grab my daughter (same daughter) from me and plop her in the cart. I had a broken foot, I was holding onto another squirming toddler, and was paying for my groceries. I sort of had my daughter pinned against the counter because she would take off and run blindly from me and we were just steps from the doors to the busy parking lot. This girl has been faster than me from the time she could walk, she's like a deer, and she literally would just race away and be gone in a split second.

The checker saw me pinning her and holding onto her hood and thought I was abusive. But she didn't know my girl. I wasn't punishing her, even, I was restraining her. This is the same girl who bit her brother, kicked me (fairly regularly until she was 6) and would throw herself straight back, stiff as a board, when she was upset (full body slam, backwards).

Ah, those were the days.

My primary concern was keeping her alive. I didn't worry too much about how it looked to people.

And she is the absolute darling of the family; my only girl! You've never seen a more beautiful child, or a more sparkly, smart and cheerful one. Just had some trouble with that impulse control until the last year or so....
 
The people who looked into it believed the family.

It's funny, my daughter was bitten regularly by dogs, too. She insisted on sticking her face in their faces. It's why I got a smaller dog for the family when we got one; and she's been bitten by our own dog more times than I can count because she did things like grabbing her while sticking her face in the dog's face.
 
That bitch would have been dead before she got one row away from me if I would have corrected my child with a slap or spank....

You stupid sucker, DD. You would have been face down on the floor of the plane with a U.S. Marshall's pistol to the back of your head. You imbecile.
 
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never slap a child. just makes them scream louder.

that's why i prefer choking. draws a lot less attention to you and usually when they wake up from the black out, they've forgotten why they were upset in the first place.
Yawn. Child abuse isn't funny. Way to earn one of the only negs I've ever given out.

You'd didn't get that he was being sarcastic, did you? Geesh.
 
My daughter also would get popped for biting, which she did often and viciously. For that I would slap her lips. It didn't work, though. She didn't quit biting until about a year ago (she's almost 8 now).

Guess what we did? You'll die, it's barbaric. She bit her brother on the back, hard enough to leave marks that lasted (a few times). My second boy, who is in his 20s, finally had had enough and the last time she did it, he took her aside, called the bitten one over, and said, "Now it's your turn" and held out her arm.

Lol. We ended up doing that twice only, and that was the end of the biting forever. I wish I'd thought of it sooner. It wouldn't work for a tiny baby, but it worked for the kids.

And the one we allowed to bite her is soft-hearted, he didn't (and we knew he wouldn't) bite her hard. But she was appalled.

The thing is, you just don't know. I know there are abusive people out there, but there is no way to know second and third hand whether this was abuse.

I've also had a Walmart checker grab my daughter (same daughter) from me and plop her in the cart. I had a broken foot, I was holding onto another squirming toddler, and was paying for my groceries. I sort of had my daughter pinned against the counter because she would take off and run blindly from me and we were just steps from the doors to the busy parking lot. This girl has been faster than me from the time she could walk, she's like a deer, and she literally would just race away and be gone in a split second.

The checker saw me pinning her and holding onto her hood and thought I was abusive. But she didn't know my girl. I wasn't punishing her, even, I was restraining her. This is the same girl who bit her brother, kicked me (fairly regularly until she was 6) and would throw herself straight back, stiff as a board, when she was upset (full body slam, backwards).

Ah, those were the days.

My primary concern was keeping her alive. I didn't worry too much about how it looked to people.

And she is the absolute darling of the family; my only girl! You've never seen a more beautiful child, or a more sparkly, smart and cheerful one. Just had some trouble with that impulse control until the last year or so....

Not for babies but for older kids, soap in the mouth for biting works wonders. Actually, soap in the mouth for many things works wonders!
 
never slap a child. just makes them scream louder.

that's why i prefer choking. draws a lot less attention to you and usually when they wake up from the black out, they've forgotten why they were upset in the first place.
Yawn. Child abuse isn't funny. Way to earn one of the only negs I've ever given out.

You'd didn't get that he was being sarcastic, did you? Geesh.

Maybe not. If the poster is still reeling from my whopping 30 point rep deduction, you're free to go ahead and tag me back on his or her behalf. :rolleyes:
 
Yawn. Child abuse isn't funny. Way to earn one of the only negs I've ever given out.

You'd didn't get that he was being sarcastic, did you? Geesh.

Maybe not. If the poster is still reeling from my whopping 30 point rep deduction, you're free to go ahead and tag me back on his or her behalf. :rolleyes:

Sure they were. Actually, I was going to respond that duct tape keeps kids quiet too. :lol:
 
You'd didn't get that he was being sarcastic, did you? Geesh.

Maybe not. If the poster is still reeling from my whopping 30 point rep deduction, you're free to go ahead and tag me back on his or her behalf. :rolleyes:

Sure they were. Actually, I was going to respond that duct tape keeps kids quiet too. :lol:

I'm sure that my hypersensitivity to the issue could have prevented me from thinking about that, but I don't think that rep - especially from me - is anything to worry about.
 
Maybe not. If the poster is still reeling from my whopping 30 point rep deduction, you're free to go ahead and tag me back on his or her behalf. :rolleyes:

Sure they were. Actually, I was going to respond that duct tape keeps kids quiet too. :lol:

I'm sure that my hypersensitivity to the issue could have prevented me from thinking about that, but I don't think that rep - especially from me - is anything to worry about.

Good for you in admitting your misjudgment. I applaud you. Maybe you can go back and pos rep the guy to make up for it.
 
Sure they were. Actually, I was going to respond that duct tape keeps kids quiet too. :lol:

I'm sure that my hypersensitivity to the issue could have prevented me from thinking about that, but I don't think that rep - especially from me - is anything to worry about.

Good for you in admitting your misjudgment. I applaud you. Maybe you can go back and pos rep the guy to make up for it.

I could, but I'd have to rep something like ten other people before I can give any sort of rep to the same poster again. I don't rep very often. Plus, cad, I think you're sort of a douchebag for your whole Muslim shtick earlier, so no love lost.
 
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You stupid sucker, DD. You would have been face down on the floor of the plane with a U.S. Marshall's pistol to the back of your head. You imbecile.

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My daughter also would get popped for biting, which she did often and viciously. For that I would slap her lips. It didn't work, though. She didn't quit biting until about a year ago (she's almost 8 now).

Guess what we did? You'll die, it's barbaric. She bit her brother on the back, hard enough to leave marks that lasted (a few times). My second boy, who is in his 20s, finally had had enough and the last time she did it, he took her aside, called the bitten one over, and said, "Now it's your turn" and held out her arm.

Lol. We ended up doing that twice only, and that was the end of the biting forever. I wish I'd thought of it sooner. It wouldn't work for a tiny baby, but it worked for the kids.

And the one we allowed to bite her is soft-hearted, he didn't (and we knew he wouldn't) bite her hard. But she was appalled.

The thing is, you just don't know. I know there are abusive people out there, but there is no way to know second and third hand whether this was abuse.

I've also had a Walmart checker grab my daughter (same daughter) from me and plop her in the cart. I had a broken foot, I was holding onto another squirming toddler, and was paying for my groceries. I sort of had my daughter pinned against the counter because she would take off and run blindly from me and we were just steps from the doors to the busy parking lot. This girl has been faster than me from the time she could walk, she's like a deer, and she literally would just race away and be gone in a split second.

The checker saw me pinning her and holding onto her hood and thought I was abusive. But she didn't know my girl. I wasn't punishing her, even, I was restraining her. This is the same girl who bit her brother, kicked me (fairly regularly until she was 6) and would throw herself straight back, stiff as a board, when she was upset (full body slam, backwards).

Ah, those were the days.

My primary concern was keeping her alive. I didn't worry too much about how it looked to people.

And she is the absolute darling of the family; my only girl! You've never seen a more beautiful child, or a more sparkly, smart and cheerful one. Just had some trouble with that impulse control until the last year or so....

Not for babies but for older kids, soap in the mouth for biting works wonders. Actually, soap in the mouth for many things works wonders!

Yes, we occasionally employ that tactic as well. Most recently was a few weeks ago when my son kept screaming in a particularly unpleasant way. Not because he was in pain, but because he was unhappy about something. He screams as a way to drown out opposition, intimidate others, and his voice cuts through your head like a buzz saw. It's unreal.

He kept screaming and had been told to knock it off repeatedly, over days. Finally, I just took the soap and scraped it across his teeth whenever he did it. It took two times, and that unpleasant interlude was over.
 
That bitch would have been dead before she got one row away from me if I would have corrected my child with a slap or spank....

You stupid sucker, DD. You would have been face down on the floor of the plane with a U.S. Marshall's pistol to the back of your head. You imbecile.


Yep.... maybe I would be... but you grab my child away from me, you have 2 seconds before your neck is contorted around 180 degrees
 
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