Sorry - but yes - another Occupy thread

[chanel]

Beyond this woman being a "speaker" at OWS, what is her connection to OWS?

Huh? Beyond anyone doing anything at OWS, what is their connection to OWS? It is leaderless - or so they claim. And these zombies are yearning for someone older and wiser to show them what they are supposed to do. And how they should think. Her appearances are being promoted by the Occupy Groups.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=293852013967985

Legendary activist, scholar, and #1 on Glenn Beck's most wanted list, FRANCES FOX PIVEN is coming to #OCCUPYPHILLY.

Piven will share her thoughts on the Occupy movement: what we're doing right, what sorts of next steps we should consider planning, etc.

Creepy.

V.e.r.y. creepy!!

Check this out naturgirl. My son was there. Jump to 6:26. "Where the fuck is my healthcare? I haven't seen a doctor in seven years". Um sorry kids. ALL TEMPLE STUDENTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE! Zombies.

Ms. Piven has been invited to speak there next week.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5BehyaYRHc]Occupy Phila Temple Students - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Si modo]

The clear strategy of OWS is to gaslight everyone they can - deny reality. "We have speakers, but they have nothing to do with who we are and what we want."

 

[chanel]

Yes. The speakers we invite and promote are not affiliated with us. The anarchists living with us and destroying property are not affiliated with us. Anonymous, ACORN, the communists, and the nutjobs are not affiliated with us. But "we are the 99%."

On a side note - my son and his friends are Ron Paul supporters (kids, right? ). He said there are many at the Occupy Philly site. Watch the kid at 6:52 and see how the crowd reacts.

 

[Intense]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

She is an Ass Hat, picking and choosing her strategy like Idiot. She does a disservice to all those committed to the Principle of Nonviolent Civil-disobedience, thinking it's something you turn on an off like a faucet, as is suits you. Could her logic be more corrupt? Another one wth no concept of private property. Another one who does not care who gets hurt, who loses, who has to pay. Shame on her.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Tea Party? The left claimed was violent, no evidence has EVER been presented to substantiate the claim but they keep claiming it.

OWS, violence in numerous cities, speakers that advocate violence, pamphlets that advocate violence, but according to the left they are peaceful.

ANY lie will do for the left.

 

[Intense]

Tea Party? The left claimed was violent, no evidence has EVER been presented to substantiate the claim but they keep claiming it.

OWS, violence in numerous cities, speakers that advocate violence, pamphlets that advocate violence, but according to the left they are peaceful.

ANY lie will do for the left.

Totally agree at this point. Excuse after excuse for violence at the Demonstrations. It would seem that the only thing they want to change is places with the Oppressors. All they want is to be in charge. It seems they don't give a Rat's ass about what is Just.

 

[editec]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

Starting a fight you cannot win doesn't make any sense at all.

Violence is one game that the MASTERS play extrmely well.

NON-violent passive agression is entirely a different matter.

Let the right wing cranks play into the MASTERS' hands being violent.

Those boys are itching for a fight, anyway.

Meanwhile the OWS folks need to forge communities of like minded people who can BUILD something rather than tear shit down.

 

[bucs90]

Beyond this woman being a "speaker" at OWS, what is her connection to OWS?

Amazing.

Need there be additional connections?

The left all of a sudden wants this OWS stuff to go away. Well, not "go away" but stop being publicized. Their radical, violent ideology is being exposed and they want it to stop!! Quick...someone bring up another Herman Cain rumor!!!

 

[Intense]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

Starting a fight you cannot win doesn't make any sense at all.

Violence is one game that the MASTERS play extrmely well.

NON-violent passive agression is entirely a different matter.

Let the right wing cranks play into the MASTERS' hands being violent.

Those boys are itching for a fight, anyway.

Meanwhile the OWS folks need to forge communities of like minded people who can BUILD something rather than tear shit down.

At least you are trying to see clearly. Where there is effort, there is hope. Think Gandhi, if you want to effect change. Try not to polarize those you want to get through to, that will also help allot. There is No Excuse for violence, you are seeing that. It is imperative to remain Peaceful.

 

[WillowTree]

COWS shitters talking about starting a "movement".. CUTE

 

[AquaAthena]

Yeah, most of us who are informed are aware of this evil woman.

Thanks in a huge part, to Glenn Beck.

Also many agree with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who says responsibility for the Occupy Wall Street movement rests squarely on the shoulders of President Obama.

SNIP:

"This is a very dangerous movement, and it's ironic it's happening under a president who promised to unify us," Giuliani said. "Barack Obama owns the Occupy Wall Street movement, it would not have happened but for his class warfare

SNIP:

The 2008 Republican presidential candidate also predicted the movement will eventually lead to the end of Obama's presidency. "Barack Obama praised it, sympathizes with it," he said. "As it gets worse and worse, I believe this will be the millstone around Barack Obama's neck that will take his presidency down."

Read more: Giuliani: "Obama Owns Occupy Wall Street" - Fox News

 

[AmericanFirst]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

Piven is nothing but a socialist trouble maker who is also anti-American. Who cares what she says? Oh yeah, lefty socialist idiots like obamaturd and the lefty idiots on this board.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

Im sorry but did you even watch these video's yourself??

Most of her comments on violence is in refrence to establishment violence agianst the protestors.

Yes, I watched the videos. And many others.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JjY9RuS1mE&NR=1]Chilling Video Openly Rooting for Revolution The Left Calls For American Civil Unrest Riots Frances Fox Piven Lib Talk - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xJZEY3oz0]The End of America....The Cloward-Piven Strategy. - YouTube[/ame]

Interestingly, I found out about her appearance (and the video) on the Occupy Phila. facebook page this morning. Now it's gone. Hmmmm.

Probably because there are still real Americans that do not want to hear her stupid bullshit.

 

[Samson]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

Starting a fight you cannot win doesn't make any sense at all.

Violence is one game that the MASTERS play extrmely well.

NON-violent passive agression is entirely a different matter.

Let the right wing cranks play into the MASTERS' hands being violent.

Those boys are itching for a fight, anyway.

Meanwhile the OWS folks need to forge communities of like minded people who can BUILD something rather than tear shit down.

"MASTERS?????"

Who?

 

[daveman]

Who is Frances Fox Piven?

Frances Fox Piven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

is an American professor of political science and sociology at The Graduate Center, City University of New York, where she has taught since 1982.

So.....she's never actually employed anyone....



I see.

Or worked in the real world.

Just another leftist echo-chamber resident, completely disconnected from reality.

 

[daveman]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

She is an Ass Hat, picking and choosing her strategy like Idiot. She does a disservice to all those committed to the Principle of Nonviolent Civil-disobedience, thinking it's something you turn on an off like a faucet, as is suits you. Could her logic be more corrupt? Another one wth no concept of private property. Another one who does not care who gets hurt, who loses, who has to pay. Shame on her.

In summary:

She's a leftist.

 

[Samson]

The clear strategy of OWS is to gaslight everyone they can - deny reality. "We have speakers, but they have nothing to do with who we are and what we want."

Francis Fox Piven: "UNPERSON"

Orwellian" describes the situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free society. It connotes an attitude and a policy of control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth, and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson" — a person whose past existence is expunged from the public record and memory, practiced by modern repressive governments.

 

[daveman]

Frances Fox Piven, speaker at OWS in NY, and coming soon to Occupy Philadelphia, condones the use of violence - and notes that it can be "very effective".

Cloward and Piven - 'It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy' - YouTube!

Francis Fox Piven – ‘It is ok to use violence as long as it is a BIG part of your strategy’ « YourDaddy's Politics

Starting a fight you cannot win doesn't make any sense at all.

Violence is one game that the MASTERS play extrmely well.

NON-violent passive agression is entirely a different matter.

Let the right wing cranks play into the MASTERS' hands being violent.

Those boys are itching for a fight, anyway.

Meanwhile the OWS folks need to forge communities of like minded people who can BUILD something rather than tear shit down.

Then why do they keep tearing shit down?

 

[daveman]

The clear strategy of OWS is to gaslight everyone they can - deny reality. "We have speakers, but they have nothing to do with who we are and what we want."

Francis Fox Piven: "UNPERSON"

Orwellian" describes the situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free society. It connotes an attitude and a policy of control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth, and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson" — a person whose past existence is expunged from the public record and memory, practiced by modern repressive governments.

Leftists do like to rewrite history, don't they?

 

[Si modo]

The clear strategy of OWS is to gaslight everyone they can - deny reality. "We have speakers, but they have nothing to do with who we are and what we want."

Francis Fox Piven: "UNPERSON"

Orwellian" describes the situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free society. It connotes an attitude and a policy of control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth, and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson" — a person whose past existence is expunged from the public record and memory, practiced by modern repressive governments.

Anybody ever notice how much information no longer exists on the net since January 09?

I do.

For example, it used to be very easy to find information on Bill Ayers, the terrorist pig and piece of shit. No so easy, now.