Something important that we are losing....

[onthedl]

…the ability to engage in adult conversations. Below are actual posts that were made by one person over the past 5 or 6 days. Whether we disagree or are angered by different viewpoints, we should be able to have spirited discussions.

Has anyone else grown tired of the escalation in name-calling and vitriol replacing civility, mature discussion, disagreements or disputes? All sides have guilty parties – it’s not just one or the other.

It would make this board much more enjoyable if we could retire the exhausted labels of idiot, moron, stupid, retard, ____tard, etc. For those who must resort to childish insults regarding mental capacity, you may want to use a spelling and grammar check first because most of those judgmental responses are fraught with errors, making them hilariously ironic.

Here are some prime examples of one person’s disregard for meaningful comments[, basic English and proper writing. Please note, these statements have not been altered and are oh-so-funny . Enjoy.

If you dimwits think you are so smart, why do you guys always sound so stupid and do stupid things?

This just in. Everyone but you know you are a big lefty commie retard. Shut Up fool.

No. Someone smarter then you libtards.

Yet you guys put in office their puppet. Idiots.

Libtards hate it when the truth comes out, they do not know how to deal with it.

An idiot stating what other idiots think.

Because smart people know the truth. Idiots follow the idiot in chief.

They are too stupid to realize how they have been played.

T he first useful idiot shows up. Hey there puke.

The idiot has spoken.

You are an idiot of the first degree.

The three stooges: obamaturd, clinton, and rice should not have lied for two weeks if they did not want to be held accountable. The three stooges need to pay the price.

We all know the alphabets mainstream media are obamaturd butt kissers. Story there.

And obamaturds cushy arse.

You are the fuckwit, fuckwit. Obamaturd is a pos and you idiots kiss his arse.

I told you, google it. I did. You do some work and see for yourself instead of hiding behind obamaturds big ears.

Obamaturd is a disgrace, and you, idiot.

Obamacare is a perfect example. If you are too stupid to see that, you have NO credibility. Google socialism, obamacare fits the definition to a tee. Your response is typical of a libtard..

JIt is their fault, any intelligent person knows it. Obviously the idiot left doesn't because they are retarded.[ust like obamaturd to appoint a coward of a traitor.
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By the way, I am not claiming to be error-free, but I am not insulting other poster’s intelligence.

 

[onthedl]

I can't be the only one interested in better discussions, am I? Anybody?

 

[Mac1958]

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I would love to see a significant improvement in the civility and maturity of our conversations, but I've long since resigned myself to the fact that it just ain't gonna happen.

Definitely appreciate the sentiment, though!

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[PratchettFan]

The problem with freedom of speech is that it isn't freedom of speech unless everyone has it. It's a given that some of those folks are going to result to insults. On the flip side, just because they have the right to say what they please does not obligate you to listen. There are lot's of folks here willing to engage in civil discussion, limit your interaction to them.

 

[zeke]

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I would love to see a significant improvement in the civility and maturity of our conversations, but I've long since resigned myself to the fact that it just ain't gonna happen.

Definitely appreciate the sentiment, though!

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Mac, I have seen you have some pretty good threads, however any decent conversations contained therein have been conversations with those that identify themselves as Indy or Liberal.

How you gonna have a meaningful discussion with the likes of a stephanie or a rottweiler, matthew? or any of the other half brained people on this board?

There is nothing good that comes with the attitude of; it's my way or the highway. And that is the attitude the right wingers seem to have.

 

[Zoom-boing]

I generally ignore posts like that. It takes two to tango you know.

Your example of name calling posts are right-calling-left-names. That is unbalanced, the left reciprocates all the time. Cue the music.

 

[Freewill]

And once again a thread degernates into name calling, thanks Zeke for giving an example of the OP whole point.

 

[Mac1958]

Mac, I have seen you have some pretty good threads, however any decent conversations contained therein have been conversations with those that identify themselves as Indy or Liberal.

How you gonna have a meaningful discussion with the likes of a stephanie or a rottweiler, matthew? or any of the other half brained people on this board?

There is nothing good that comes with the attitude of; it's my way or the highway. And that is the attitude the right wingers seem to have.

From where I sit, there are plenty of posters on both "sides" with whom it's essentially impossible to have an intellectually honest, mature conversation. So I just end up not responding when they begin playing their little games.

There's a great deal of narcissism in contemporary American political discourse. Not sure where that came from, but I have a guess or two. But I agree with the other posts here, the best thing to do is probably to not get sucked into it. It's possible to have decent conversations here, but ya do have to wade through some silliness.

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[zeke]

And once again a thread degernates into name calling, thanks Zeke for giving an example of the OP whole point.

You are welcome. You ever try and have a conversation where you ask someone a question and they answer with a non related question? It is definitely a conversation killer. And the norm on here.

These places are not intended for "good conversation". IMO.

They are intended as a format for every person who would like to have been a political commentator to put forth their considered views and opinions. Facts be damned.

Sometimes it is fun. Others a waste of time. But meaningful it will never be. No consequences to our actions.

 

[beretta304]

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I would love to see a significant improvement in the civility and maturity of our conversations, but I've long since resigned myself to the fact that it just ain't gonna happen.

Definitely appreciate the sentiment, though!

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Mac, I have seen you have some pretty good threads, however any decent conversations contained therein have been conversations with those that identify themselves as Indy or Liberal.

How you gonna have a meaningful discussion with the likes of a stephanie or a rottweiler, matthew? or any of the other half brained people on this board?

There is nothing good that comes with the attitude of; it's my way or the highway. And that is the attitude the right wingers seem to have.

Well you're not going to get civil discourse when you call out only opposition names. Most of the trolls here are Libs and that's factual.

 

[Freewill]

And once again a thread degernates into name calling, thanks Zeke for giving an example of the OP whole point.

You are welcome. You ever try and have a conversation where you ask someone a question and they answer with a non related question? It is definitely a conversation killer. And the norm on here.

These places are not intended for "good conversation". IMO.

They are intended as a format for every person who would like to have been a political commentator to put forth their considered views and opinions. Facts be damned.

Sometimes it is fun. Others a waste of time. But meaningful it will never be. No consequences to our actions.

Let's make a pledge right now. We will not engage in childish name calling from this day forward. Even returning what you receive as I do sometimes. That does not include names defining what you think is a position, such as pretender or partisan. Let's just try and stay away from the "seven words you can't say on TV." (Lenny Bruce reference)

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Well, you know sometimes it is speaking a language that the person on the other end understands.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That is a lie. The fabrications comes from all sides. That's the truth.

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I would love to see a significant improvement in the civility and maturity of our conversations, but I've long since resigned myself to the fact that it just ain't gonna happen.

Definitely appreciate the sentiment, though!

.

Mac, I have seen you have some pretty good threads, however any decent conversations contained therein have been conversations with those that identify themselves as Indy or Liberal.

How you gonna have a meaningful discussion with the likes of a stephanie or a rottweiler, matthew? or any of the other half brained people on this board?

There is nothing good that comes with the attitude of; it's my way or the highway. And that is the attitude the right wingers seem to have.

Well you're not going to get civil discourse when you call out only opposition names. Most of the trolls here are Libs and that's factual.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I'm in.

And once again a thread degernates into name calling, thanks Zeke for giving an example of the OP whole point.

You are welcome. You ever try and have a conversation where you ask someone a question and they answer with a non related question? It is definitely a conversation killer. And the norm on here.

These places are not intended for "good conversation". IMO.

They are intended as a format for every person who would like to have been a political commentator to put forth their considered views and opinions. Facts be damned.

Sometimes it is fun. Others a waste of time. But meaningful it will never be. No consequences to our actions.

Let's make a pledge right now. We will not engage in childish name calling from this day forward. Even returning what you receive as I do sometimes. That does not include names defining what you think is a position, such as pretender or partisan. Let's just try and stay away from the "seven words you can't say on TV." (Lenny Bruce reference)

 

[Truthmatters]

…the ability to engage in adult conversations. Below are actual posts that were made by one person over the past 5 or 6 days. Whether we disagree or are angered by different viewpoints, we should be able to have spirited discussions.

Has anyone else grown tired of the escalation in name-calling and vitriol replacing civility, mature discussion, disagreements or disputes? All sides have guilty parties – it’s not just one or the other.

It would make this board much more enjoyable if we could retire the exhausted labels of idiot, moron, stupid, retard, ____tard, etc. For those who must resort to childish insults regarding mental capacity, you may want to use a spelling and grammar check first because most of those judgmental responses are fraught with errors, making them hilariously ironic.

Here are some prime examples of one person’s disregard for meaningful comments[, basic English and proper writing. Please note, these statements have not been altered and are oh-so-funny . Enjoy.

If you dimwits think you are so smart, why do you guys always sound so stupid and do stupid things?

This just in. Everyone but you know you are a big lefty commie retard. Shut Up fool.

No. Someone smarter then you libtards.

Yet you guys put in office their puppet. Idiots.

Libtards hate it when the truth comes out, they do not know how to deal with it.

An idiot stating what other idiots think.

Because smart people know the truth. Idiots follow the idiot in chief.

They are too stupid to realize how they have been played.

T he first useful idiot shows up. Hey there puke.

The idiot has spoken.

You are an idiot of the first degree.

The three stooges: obamaturd, clinton, and rice should not have lied for two weeks if they did not want to be held accountable. The three stooges need to pay the price.

We all know the alphabets mainstream media are obamaturd butt kissers. Story there.

And obamaturds cushy arse.

You are the fuckwit, fuckwit. Obamaturd is a pos and you idiots kiss his arse.

I told you, google it. I did. You do some work and see for yourself instead of hiding behind obamaturds big ears.

Obamaturd is a disgrace, and you, idiot.

Obamacare is a perfect example. If you are too stupid to see that, you have NO credibility. Google socialism, obamacare fits the definition to a tee. Your response is typical of a libtard..

JIt is their fault, any intelligent person knows it. Obviously the idiot left doesn't because they are retarded.[ust like obamaturd to appoint a coward of a traitor.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
By the way, I am not claiming to be error-free, but I am not insulting other poster’s intelligence.

Hey new poster,


are you on the down low or the disabled list?


seriously though heres the gist of how I see it.

When I first started out in this internets world (series of tubes) I insulted no one.

I tried very hard to be civil yet state the facts.

I was lumped right in with everyone who called names.


The poster Immie like ten years ago acused me of being uncivil and I told him to go check my every post for an insult.

He could find none.


Of course ten years later he says he doesnt remember the incident but that is jsut the continuation of the problem.


I at that point realised cussing and calling names was part of the deal oif no one is willing to give credit for civility.


I love to make up insult names so its fun.

I have since spent two seperate years using no invective.


The forst time was at a site that is owned by Gunnys brother( gunny was a ficture here once).

They banned me because it drove them bat shit insane and they are full of hate.


Then after the Dem in Arizona got a bullet injected into her head after the republicans called for "second amendment remedies" to not winning elections I did a civility experiment for nearly a full year.


Guess what those years of civility got me?




Not one fucking thing.


I was treated WORSE by people on the right because I was seen as weak.

They thought calling me things lile twat would scare me.


The people on the FAR right in this country are not sane.


They are not fair.

they are not civil


they are not smart


they are not trustable


they are not an asset


they are a anchor dragging the bottom of the ocean trying to stop the world from changing for the better.


and they dont like anyone on board the ship which sails above them.

Hell they hate the fucking ship.


They hate government and say its evil.

they hate the people with the wrong colors of skin.

they hate the people on the ship who love each other if they are the wrong sex.


They hate the kids on the ship who have nothing to eat.

They hate the sick people on the ship.


They hate the ships library.

they hate the ships schools.


they hate the teachers on the ship.

They hate the ships logs because they cant change them.

They hate the sceince that created a ship that can float and sail and defy the oceans powers.


Now why am I supposed to stay civil with people like that when its proven they will NEVER be civil themselves.


I spent YEARS trying to get them to be civil.

It is not going to happen.


No con Ive met in my entire life ever respected me in any way whe I was civil to them.

 

[Mac1958]

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As if by example...

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[Two Thumbs]

We have a kiddie room, the CDZ

It's where people go when they don't want to deal with free speech

 

[beretta304]

 

[Truthmatters]

I tried the example thing.

it got me WORSE treatment by the right here and elsewhere

 

[Truthmatters]

The year I was civil was the year the cons here treated me the worst they ever treated me.


You can go back and look at the entire year of my civility experiment.


It starts with a thread by me called the civility experiment.