Some truths on North Korea - China and what it wants

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    "And after the summit, when Trump made the shock announcement that the US would stop its massive war games with South Korea -- a longtime Chinese goal -- it was clear that Beijing had made its mark on the proceedings."

    What China Wants On Trade And North Korea

    "YUN: Well, China does want the Singapore summit to happen because the summit will represent the de-escalation of the tension, which China sees as intrinsically in China's national interest."

    "back in 2017, it was President Trump who kept saying that if China helps us on North Korea, the trade deal they're going to get is going to be so much better. And guess what? The trade deal they feel that they're getting is not so much better. It's actually so much worse."

    https://www.quora.com/What-does-China-really-want-from-North-Korea

    " China needs a buffer zone between them and US-Japan-ROK alliance. DPRK is more and more aggressive, that’s why China seemed to align itself with Trump implementing sanctions against the regime. "


    China is a massive player in this whole thing. Without China, there is no deal with North Korea.

    What does China want?

    Firstly China wants the US out of the region. It'd be like the Soviets going to Cuba, and the US did everything it could to make sure that it didn't work out.

    China doesn't want tension in the region. Why not? Well, the North Koreans would try and leave North Korea in the even of a war and would end up in China, causing China problems.

    Secondly China doesn't want the US on its border, which would happen is North and South Korea united in some way, either through war or through peaceful means. So they'd only let reunification happen if the US was out of the picture totally.

    Thirdly Trump is playing with trade deals. The Chinese know that Trump is in line for an election campaign in two years, and the midterms, which impact Trump massively happen in 5 months. China can put so much pressure on Trump with tariffs that it'll be Trump losing supporters in November, not the Chinese who have no elections ever.

    Fourthly China doesn't particularly like North Korea, but it serves a purpose. However like a little brother who thinks he's got his older's protection, Kim might get too arrogant and China will use the US as a way of smacking him down. Pretending not to be around while the bully goes and scares the younger brother.

    No deal will be possible without China.
     
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    The world/America/Trump is certainly receiving a hell of a lot more help from China than he is from the Democratic Party and their fake news propagandists, I find that obvious fact quite disturbing..

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    Trump isn't get any help from China. China is looking out for its own interests. Trump is escalating the trade war. China's interests aren't in a trade war. Perhaps China will make the US understand this soon.
     
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    Sheesh, make up your mind but either way Democrats/fake newsers such as yourself are complete negatives to a viable solution.
     
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    I think China will swap N. Korea for those fake islands they have built.
     
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    Why would they do that?

    China doesn't need North Korea. It wants those islands.

    Sometimes thinking is better done with knowledge.
     
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    Gads, another Obama/Democrat failure America/Trump got stuck with.. it's endless..

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    So when we/Trump match China's tariffs on us..... Trump is escalating a trade war????
    Are you seriously going to defend China's trade and corporate spying practices????
     
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    No, I'm not going to defend China's policies, especially the spying.

    I just think there are better ways of doing such things.

    The problem is Trump wants China's help here, and then screws over China there.
     
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    Fridge.....the establishment in DC...the hate Trumpers are getting rich on the status quo and your family is losing out...one way or another...your family is losing out...Trump is saying no more....from now on as long as he is president we will make deals that benefit us or we won't make that deal...no matter who's palm gets greased.....
     

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