Some new taxes Dems and Repubitards should consider

[LordBrownTrout]

Downsize is easy. Cut twenty percent from every dept, agency for starters. Use that money to pay for the debt.

 

[The T]

Downsize is easy. Cut twenty percent from every dept, agency for starters. Use that money to pay for the debt.

Indeed. The government serves the people...as it stands now? It's 180 degrees out of phase.

Government does not exist to give people jobs. Not their intended purpose.

 

[Cuyo]

Then guess what BASSHOLE? Government needs to downsize itself intstead of attack the private sector for thier wasteful practices as they have been doing and the private sector has had to downsize itself...WHY cannot gubmint do the same?


And ONE other factoid? All money belongs to those that earn it and not government. When are you Statist creeps gonna learn this lesson?

Downsize what retard, exactly what?

Anything and everything that doesn't fall into Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

Get it ACE?

We've been through this ACE. Until you tell us WHAT you don't feel falls under Article 1 Section 8... You got NOTHIN. Just _SAYING_ "Article 1 Section 8" is meaningless.

Of course even after you tell us what you think is in non-compliance... It still won't mean jack until SCOTUS agrees... K ACE? YOU ain't the authority on what's constitutional, ACE.

 

[The T]

Downsize what retard, exactly what?

Anything and everything that doesn't fall into Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

Get it ACE?

We've been through this ACE. Until you tell us WHAT you don't feel falls under Article 1 Section 8... You got NOTHIN. Just _SAYING_ "Article 1 Section 8" is meaningless.

Of course even after you tell us what you think is in non-compliance... It still won't mean jack until SCOTUS agrees... K ACE? YOU ain't the authority on what's constitutional, ACE.

And naturally the Constituion is meaningless to your likes. As to non complience? GO do your own work. I don't do work for lazy Statists as you.

Got it ACE>?

 

[The Rabbi]

Stupid, can't you read? I proposed taxes and tax breaks.

So what?
Your proposals suck and are the usual lib social engineering that we all despise and ahve been proven failures over the last 40 years.

My proposals reward that which is beneficial and helpful and taxes that which non-productive and unhealthy, in the long run the government waste less money on health care and recycling would save plenty of money and natural resources.

No, your proposals reward what you think is beneficial and tax what you think is unproductive. It is not gov'ts job to make moral judgments like that.
There is no proof any of that would save money. Cigarettes have been heavily taxed for over 30 years and I haven't seen any savings anywhere.

 

[Cuyo]

Anything and everything that doesn't fall into Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

Get it ACE?

We've been through this ACE. Until you tell us WHAT you don't feel falls under Article 1 Section 8... You got NOTHIN. Just _SAYING_ "Article 1 Section 8" is meaningless.

Of course even after you tell us what you think is in non-compliance... It still won't mean jack until SCOTUS agrees... K ACE? YOU ain't the authority on what's constitutional, ACE.

And naturally the Constituion is meaningless to your likes. As to non complience? GO do your own work. I don't do work for lazy Statists as you.

Got it ACE>?

No, ACE. Under normal circumstances, I'd say it's your dunderheaded interpretation of the constitution that's meaningless.

But alas, NOBODY KNOWS what your interpretation is... All we know is you like to say 'Constitution' and 'Article 1, Section 8' alot.

Like a typical hyper-patriot uneducated dope, you attempt to deflect when pressed for any sort of specifics.

So, what do you feel is unconstitutional, Ace? [Insert additional deflection]

 

[The T]

We've been through this ACE. Until you tell us WHAT you don't feel falls under Article 1 Section 8... You got NOTHIN. Just _SAYING_ "Article 1 Section 8" is meaningless.

Of course even after you tell us what you think is in non-compliance... It still won't mean jack until SCOTUS agrees... K ACE? YOU ain't the authority on what's constitutional, ACE.

And naturally the Constituion is meaningless to your likes. As to non complience? GO do your own work. I don't do work for lazy Statists as you.

Got it ACE>?

No, ACE. Under normal circumstances, I'd say it's your dunderheaded interpretation of the constitution that's meaningless.

But alas, NOBODY KNOWS what your interpretation is... All we know is you like to say 'Constitution' and 'Article 1, Section 8' alot.

Like a typical hyper-patriot uneducated dope, you attempt to deflect when pressed for any sort of specifics.

So, what do you feel is unconstitutional, Ace? [Insert additional deflection]

As written. The Founders were clear, and if I said it once if not a hundred times? READ their thoughts via the Federalists/Anti-Federalists.

Again? I will NOT do your work for you. The Founders were quite clear. Words mean things...but you have to get over that hurdle first and cease accepting inerpretations that suit your emotional knee-jerk pretenses that make YOU feel better about yourself.

 

[Cuyo]

And naturally the Constituion is meaningless to your likes. As to non complience? GO do your own work. I don't do work for lazy Statists as you.

Got it ACE>?

No, ACE. Under normal circumstances, I'd say it's your dunderheaded interpretation of the constitution that's meaningless.

But alas, NOBODY KNOWS what your interpretation is... All we know is you like to say 'Constitution' and 'Article 1, Section 8' alot.

Like a typical hyper-patriot uneducated dope, you attempt to deflect when pressed for any sort of specifics.

So, what do you feel is unconstitutional, Ace? [Insert additional deflection]

As written. The Founders were clear, and if I said it once if not a hundred times? READ their thoughts via the Federalists/Anti-Federalists.

Again? I will NOT do your work for you. The Founders were quite clear. Words mean things...but you have to get over that hurdle first and cease accepting inerpretations that suit your emotional knee-jerk pretenses that make YOU feel better about yourself.

Well, stupid people do sometimes make me feel better about myself, I'm not gonna lie.

But no, I hereby refuse to do your research. This is a message board, it's not unreasonable for me to expect you to defend your proclamations.

But, I imagine you have no defense, or you would have shown it by now. Yes I fully expect another deflection, if not for you to just run away, run away, run away little man...

 

[California Girl]

I propose that the OP pays more taxes.... for being a boring whiner.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Some of the ideas would have merit, if the fundamental concept had merit.

But the reality is this is redistribution of income and government being our nanny. For many conservatives, the actual rate is less annoying than the idea that we are being manipulated through the tax code.

So while it would be cool to reduce bad behavior, the tax code is not your sandbox to remake people into a new animal.

though I would be cool if they would eliminate the medicare tax and replace it with a tax on dietary fat. one gram of fat would cost a penny. It would raise the price of a candy bar by a dime, the price of a hamburger by a dollar, a bag of fritos by $1 etc. And given the national fat intake, would fund medicare and a large portion of social security.

But that really isn't the government's job.

 

[RDD_1210]

I propose that the OP pays more taxes.... for being a boring whiner.

Shocking a personal attack and no substance. Who could have posted it.......Oh look it's CG adding to that post count.

 

[RDD_1210]

Anything and everything that doesn't fall into Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

Get it ACE?

We've been through this ACE. Until you tell us WHAT you don't feel falls under Article 1 Section 8... You got NOTHIN. Just _SAYING_ "Article 1 Section 8" is meaningless.

Of course even after you tell us what you think is in non-compliance... It still won't mean jack until SCOTUS agrees... K ACE? YOU ain't the authority on what's constitutional, ACE.

And naturally the Constituion is meaningless to your likes. As to non complience? GO do your own work. I don't do work for lazy Statists as you.

Got it ACE>?

LOL, surprising. All bark, no bite. You have no actual clue what you'd cut, do you? Of course you don't, you just know how to repeat things you hear, like a parrot. At least you found your role in life.

What about starting the cutting with the Military?

 

[California Girl]

I propose that the OP pays more taxes.... for being a boring whiner.

Shocking a personal attack and no substance. Who could have posted it.......Oh look it's CG adding to that post count.

I know, shocking, isn't it?

Fucking moron... Charlie's a friend of mine.... he knows I'm yanking his chain... even if drooling fools like you don't. Now, stop fucking whining.

 

[RDD_1210]

And naturally the Constituion is meaningless to your likes. As to non complience? GO do your own work. I don't do work for lazy Statists as you.

Got it ACE>?

No, ACE. Under normal circumstances, I'd say it's your dunderheaded interpretation of the constitution that's meaningless.

But alas, NOBODY KNOWS what your interpretation is... All we know is you like to say 'Constitution' and 'Article 1, Section 8' alot.

Like a typical hyper-patriot uneducated dope, you attempt to deflect when pressed for any sort of specifics.

So, what do you feel is unconstitutional, Ace? [Insert additional deflection]

As written. The Founders were clear, and if I said it once if not a hundred times? READ their thoughts via the Federalists/Anti-Federalists.

Again? I will NOT do your work for you. The Founders were quite clear. Words mean things...but you have to get over that hurdle first and cease accepting inerpretations that suit your emotional knee-jerk pretenses that make YOU feel better about yourself.

So should we get rid of the Air Force since it's not specifically mentioned in the Constitution? How about Nuclear Weapons?

 

[RDD_1210]

I propose that the OP pays more taxes.... for being a boring whiner.

Shocking a personal attack and no substance. Who could have posted it.......Oh look it's CG adding to that post count.

I know, shocking, isn't it?

Fucking moron... Charlie's a friend of mine.... he knows I'm yanking his chain... even if drooling fools like you don't. Now, stop fucking whining.

Sorry, I'm suppose to know this how? Your post didn't look any different then 90% of the other crap you post on this site that is a mindless insult and waste of everyone's time. You're going to have to start separating your garbage.

 

[hortysir]

To put money into the economy. They should propose bigger taxes on:

1) Sugary drinks
2) All pornographic materials
3) All alcoholic beverages
4) All video games
5) All luxury vehicles
6) All tobacco products
7) All fastfood


Grant tax breaks to people and businesses that:

1) All working students that maintain a GPA of 3.5 and higher
2) The working poor who work overtime and more than one job.
3) All working single parents
4) All grocery store and markets that sell bio food products
5) All people who work as police officers in high crime areas
6) All teachers who volunteer and excel at working at at risk schools.
7) All businesses and individuals who recycle.

So you dictate lifestyles now?
You hold one group higher than another?


Look at this connection a moment:
Numbers 1, 3, 54, and 6 of the top list would mostly have a negative effect on number 3 of the bottom list

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Some of the ideas would have merit, if the fundamental concept had merit.

But the reality is this is redistribution of income and government being our nanny. For many conservatives, the actual rate is less annoying than the idea that we are being manipulated through the tax code.

So while it would be cool to reduce bad behavior, the tax code is not your sandbox to remake people into a new animal.

though I would be cool if they would eliminate the medicare tax and replace it with a tax on dietary fat. one gram of fat would cost a penny. It would raise the price of a candy bar by a dime, the price of a hamburger by a dollar, a bag of fritos by $1 etc. And given the national fat intake, would fund medicare and a large portion of social security.

But that really isn't the government's job.

This is not redistribution of income, its a set of proposals to reward who do things to help the environment, attain educational excellence, teach children the right and proper way under difficult conditions and sell healthy food to consumers. The problem with Republitards is that they ignore the environment, have no regard for the nutrition and health of Americans and have done little to improve education in poverty stricken areas instead they blame the parents for stressing achievement in these ran down, unproductive schools with teacher who care more about getting a check over teaching students.


The things that make Americans fatter, less healthier, and destroys the environment needs to be tax heavily, because in the end we all pay the price for these things whether it be the rising costs of health care or the cost of building prison and taking care of the homeless and soaring welfare costs because of a lack of good available education to children.


Besides, not every American deserves to have a tax break, people should earn these tax breaks I have proposed because there should be an incentive for doing what helps. Just because you work hard at job doesn't mean the government should tax you less in order for you to have more money, thats a matter you should take up with your boss at your job, ask for a raise.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

So what?
Your proposals suck and are the usual lib social engineering that we all despise and ahve been proven failures over the last 40 years.

My proposals reward that which is beneficial and helpful and taxes that which non-productive and unhealthy, in the long run the government waste less money on health care and recycling would save plenty of money and natural resources.

No, your proposals reward what you think is beneficial and tax what you think is unproductive. It is not gov'ts job to make moral judgments like that.
There is no proof any of that would save money. Cigarettes have been heavily taxed for over 30 years and I haven't seen any savings anywhere.

Please explain how fatty foods, sugary drinks, fast food, tobacco products, video games, alcoholic beverages, and non-productive teachers etc, are all productive things that help Americans and good luck explaining it because you can't

 

[Jeremy]

Some new taxes Dems and Repubitards should consider

A new tax on minority welfare leeches....

 

[blastoff]

On CNN there was a show that advocated a VAT (Federal Sales tax) on EVERYTHING. The money would be used for research. I don't think that will get much support in Congress....

It will be used for waste, patronage, fraud and corruption is more like it.
We don't need new taxes.

Amen. Research countries that have VATs...what the rate was when they started and what the current rate is. For the most part it's an elevator that only goes up. Think it's only Canada and Japan that have either kept the rate low or actually reduced it since its inception.