Soldiers facing more attacks..

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    I think the rulership in Iraq,will be more worse than Hussein himself..if we don't really clean that place up...It's to the point..we might have to take a Stalin approach......These Muslims are radicals...and Iran is making this happen...We have to finish this...and I think it's gona take some tough love...and crush these resistance movements to shreds....We have to finish this!!...maybe go back to the air campaign,till it's safe for our ground troops again...

    There is no other way..We can't mince words,or make it all look good on paper...War,,is war..and it's about time to start treating it..as just that!!
     
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    The troops on the ground are treating it like war, which it is... it's just not major combat operations.

    I think the only people who would have you believe that all conflict is over, and that Iraq is as safe as Hawaii, have their heads in the sand.

    As far as the "stalin approach," I certainly hope you don't mean the slaughter of millions of innocents. That's one of the reasons we invaded Iraq in the first place - to overthrow the despot who killed millions of Iraqis over the last two decades.
     
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    um... millions? are you exaggerating?

    or do you have sources on this statement- :rolleyes:
     
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    OK... so even if you take the lowest estimates in those articles, I still count about 700,000... not quite a million, but nothing to gloss over either.

    BTW - Thanks Jimnyc!
     
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    No problem at all!

    The World Health Organization has stated in the past that Iraqi documents uncovered since the end of the war suggest that up to 5 million Iraqis were executed or died in prison under Hussein's government.

    Of course only certain numbers can be substantiated at this time, but the list is getting larger almost daily. As they find more mass graves and verify missing persons you'll finally see the catastrophic numbers.
     
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    which further poses my question of what this humanitarian issue is all about.

    what i don't seem to understand is the most heinous crimes were committed mid to late 80's.

    why then wasn't Saddam depcited as the epitomy of evil immediately?

    i agree these are heinous crimes, but why wouldn't we remove him then if we were so concerned about these people?

    and please PLEASE don't give me the national objective of solely re-capturing kuwait. that still doesn't answer the moral issue that is being shamelessly plugged here.

    all this coming from those that dropped cluster bombs from 20,000 ft.
     
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    Because the world was a very different place back then.

    How's that for summing it all up?
     
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    :eek: nice try, but ideals and morals do not take a complete 180° in a matter of a couple decades. you sound like dad saying, 'because i said so'. that's the weakest arguement i've heard yet!

    i think you mean to say back then iraq was on our payroll, and these days we needed reasons to invade, occupy. newfound humanitarianism my ass.
     

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