socialist congress members. WOW 70 Dems

You would do yourself some good to read history. He uncovered soviet spies in the state department and beyond.

No, he didn't. There WERE some Soviet spies in government offices, but Joseph McCarthy identified none of them at all.

Wrong. Everyone he called to testify was later identified to be a member of the communist party when the documents were declassified. Many of them were proven to be communist spies.

You don't know jack about the McCarthy era. Your head is full of propaganda, not facts.

[You would do well to take your own advice. Here's a start: Joseph McCarthy: Biography

Why would anyone who wants to know the facts bother reading your horseshit propaganda that official government documents have proven to be dead wrong?
 
People have good reason to be afraid of communists. So what you're saying is that McCarthy served his constiuents by solving a problem they were concerned about.

You, on the other hand, defend communists and traitors.

Who should Americans be more afraid of, McCarthy or people like you?

McCarthy, because people like him hold power and abuse it. The damage he caused far outweighed any benefit to his witch hunts. Do you know why he fell out of favor?

What "damage" did he cause? As far as I'm concerned, he did this country a great service, and he didn't go far enough. The term "witch hunts" assumes the people being investigate are innocent. However, all the declassified government documents we have from the era show that everyone McCarthy called to testify who took the Fifth Amendment were members of the Communist party or even Soviet spies.

How does outing people like that cause harm to this country?
 
People have good reason to be afraid of communists. So what you're saying is that McCarthy served his constiuents by solving a problem they were concerned about.

You, on the other hand, defend communists and traitors.

Who should Americans be more afraid of, McCarthy or people like you?

McCarthy, because people like him hold power and abuse it. The damage he caused far outweighed any benefit to his witch hunts. Do you know why he fell out of favor?

What "damage" did he cause? As far as I'm concerned, he did this country a great service, and he didn't go far enough. The term "witch hunts" assumes the people being investigate are innocent. However, all the declassified government documents we have from the era show that everyone McCarthy called to testify who took the Fifth Amendment were members of the Communist party or even Soviet spies.

How does outing people like that cause harm to this country?

For the most part, Americans that sold our secrets were capitalists, in other words they did it for cash. Also the leader of the American communist party was a CIA plant. I asked earlier in this thread if anyone knew why McCarthy fell from favor, do you know?
 
This viral e-mail turd has been around for two years and is easily debunked, I wonder what made a congressman post this to his website? Maybe he knows his followers will swallow lies rather than do their own fact checking? Only cold war relics are still scared of communists.

How is it debunked?

I would think the fact there is no Socialist Party of America would be a GIANT CLUE.

If this was unknown to you, even the most cursory of investigations would have revealed to you the Socialist Party of America has not been around since 1972.


I'm surprised there are only 70 on the list. I'd put the number closer to 225.

Take a look at this list: Congressional Progressive Caucus : Caucus Members

Look familiar?


Jesus, some people are just TOO easy to bamboozle. I wish you UnConservatives would at least try to make it challenging! You are constantly embarrassing yourselves and the Republican party.
 
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Commies are destroying the world.

The date is April 11, 2012. The Soviet Union was overthrown in 1991. All of its Eastern European satellite governments were overthrown the same year or slightly before. Mao Tze Tung died in 1976 and China immediately began divesting itself of all vestiges of Communism except the party name, a process that is quite complete today. Vietnam followed suit, and today is no more Communist than China.

The remaining Communist countries other than nominally are, I believe, two, Cuba and North Korea. Both countries are small, poor, and hardly in a position to threaten the world.

So where are these Communists you're referring to? Inquiring minds want to know. ;)
 
Americans should be scared. McCarthy simply told the truth about America's internal enemies.

LOL could you do anything more to discredit yourself than this? I swear, I couldn't have made this up; it's too far-out for my imagination -- and I'm a fiction writer.

I see your post contains the usual supporting evidence: none.

Who needs it? You're supplying all I need, praising, of all people, Joseph McCarthy. Seriously, if I were to say, on some other thread, "Don't listen to Bripat, he thinks Joe McCarthy told the truth," nobody would believe me, because it staggers the imagination that you could actually be THAT stupid. If I were to accuse you of that, I'd be dismissed, and if someone else did it I'd dismiss them -- but wrongly, I see now.

Just amazing.
 
Everyone he called to testify was later identified to be a member of the communist party

Horseshit. I defy you to present even ONE person called by McCarthy who was a Communist -- let alone a Soviet spy, which is NOT the same thing (note that the second is actually illegal while the first is not) -- and that you can prove to be a Communist. This should be good. Go ahead.
 
People have good reason to be afraid of communists.

If they live in Cuba, yes. In the United States, anti-Communists are a much greater threat to liberty than Communists.

ROLF! Spoken like a true fellow travelor.

Commies are destroying the world.
Well......before you do anymore traveloring.....it sounds like you probably need a nap.

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This according to a group that calls itself "socialist"; the members of Congress in question did not post this.

Socialists of America and the communists of America have both stated they work through the dem party. Political suicide prevents many from expressing the true beliefs, so in such cases you make judgement on actions.

Thats were democrats fall apart in their argument.

So, that would be your opinion, right? Perhaps informed by bald faced lies such as the OP? If you believe this crap you will believe anything.

That's because you don't WANT to believe it. But what do you call government-controlled healthcare? Government takeover of GM? It is the beginning of socialism. Deny it all you want, but that's what it is. Wanting to provide everything for everyone, more and more people on the government dole, discouraging any and all reporting of this or disagreement with it -- it's socialism, or God help us -- worse. I'm sure that's what people of Venezula thought, now they wish to hell they would have woke up before it was too late. If you find horseshit in your yard, believe it -- a horse has been there. Can't blame it on a chicken.
 
But what do you call government-controlled healthcare?

Something they have in the UK, that doesn't exist anywhere else AFAIK.

Government takeover of GM?

Something that did not happen.

It is the beginning of socialism.

I guess those two things would be socialism all right -- if they existed.

Mind you, I would have no problem with socialism; I would kind of like it if the Democrats really and truly were socialists.

Regrettably, I know better.
 
I think they have some desperation, and are trying every scheme they think worked in the past. Soon we'll be hearing how FDR bombed Pearl Harbor, Truman was a Republican, Truman was a communist, how Reagan paid off the debt and balanced the budget, how Bush destroyed Iraqi's WMD's, how Nixon was framed, and how Hoover brought us out of the Great Depression with his apple sellers.

Oh, but if we only HAD another Harry Truman.

Harry Truman was a different kind of President. He probably made as many important decisions regarding our nation's history as any of the other 42 Presidents. However, a measure of his greatness may rest on what he did after he left the White House.

The only asset he had when he died was the house he lived in, which was in Independence, Missouri. His wife had inherited the house from her mother and other than their years in the White House, they lived their entire lives there.

When he retired from office in 1952, his income was a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an 'allowance' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year.

After President Eisenhower was inaugurated, Harry and Bess drove home to Missouri by themselves. There were no Secret Service agents following them.

When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the President, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."

Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."

As president he paid for all of his own travel expenses and food.

Modern politicians have found a new level of success in cashing in on the Presidency, resulting in untold wealth. Today, many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale. (sic. Illinois )

Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!

I say dig him up and clone him!!
 
But what do you call government-controlled healthcare?

Something they have in the UK, that doesn't exist anywhere else AFAIK.

Government takeover of GM?

Something that did not happen.

It is the beginning of socialism.

I guess those two things would be socialism all right -- if they existed.

Mind you, I would have no problem with socialism; I would kind of like it if the Democrats really and truly were socialists.

Regrettably, I know better.

You need to pay better attention then when they talk. And watch what they do. Actually,actions speak louder than words. If you think socialist is so great, perhaps you'd be happier in a country that is truly totally socialist.
 
But what do you call government-controlled healthcare?

Something they have in the UK, that doesn't exist anywhere else AFAIK.

Government takeover of GM?

Something that did not happen.

It is the beginning of socialism.

I guess those two things would be socialism all right -- if they existed.

Mind you, I would have no problem with socialism; I would kind of like it if the Democrats really and truly were socialists.

Regrettably, I know better.

Socialist Party USA

THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control - a non-racist, classless, feminist socialist society... where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically controlled public agencies; where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. We believe socialism and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future - to a real radical democracy from below. The Socialist Party fights for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. We support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the capitalist controlled two-party system, to present socialist alternatives. We strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. The Socialist Party is a democratic, multi-tendency organization, with structure and practices visible and accessible to all members
 
But what do you call government-controlled healthcare?

Something they have in the UK, that doesn't exist anywhere else AFAIK.



Something that did not happen.

It is the beginning of socialism.

I guess those two things would be socialism all right -- if they existed.

Mind you, I would have no problem with socialism; I would kind of like it if the Democrats really and truly were socialists.

Regrettably, I know better.

Socialist Party USA

THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control - a non-racist, classless, feminist socialist society... where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically controlled public agencies; where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. We believe socialism and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future - to a real radical democracy from below. The Socialist Party fights for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. We support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the capitalist controlled two-party system, to present socialist alternatives. We strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. The Socialist Party is a democratic, multi-tendency organization, with structure and practices visible and accessible to all members
I bet you thought that when they used the word "democratic" It meant they had direct links to the democratic party, you did didn't you?
 
Something they have in the UK, that doesn't exist anywhere else AFAIK.



Something that did not happen.



I guess those two things would be socialism all right -- if they existed.

Mind you, I would have no problem with socialism; I would kind of like it if the Democrats really and truly were socialists.

Regrettably, I know better.

Socialist Party USA

THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control - a non-racist, classless, feminist socialist society... where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically controlled public agencies; where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. We believe socialism and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future - to a real radical democracy from below. The Socialist Party fights for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. We support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the capitalist controlled two-party system, to present socialist alternatives. We strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. The Socialist Party is a democratic, multi-tendency organization, with structure and practices visible and accessible to all members
I bet you thought that when they used the word "democratic" It meant they had direct links to the democratic party, you did didn't you?

No I did not you pompous ass! Somebody on here said there was no socialist party in America. Well there is. and they are active. They are loved by the Democrats, however. When someone says "sky" you think it's "falling." You do, don't you?

http://socialdemocratsusa.org/

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html --- they don't call themselves the "Republican Socialists" now do they? YOu thought they did, didn't you?
 
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The date is April 11, 2012. The Soviet Union was overthrown in 1991. All of its Eastern European satellite governments were overthrown the same year or slightly before. Mao Tze Tung died in 1976 and China immediately began divesting itself of all vestiges of Communism except the party name, a process that is quite complete today. Vietnam followed suit, and today is no more Communist than China.

The remaining Communist countries other than nominally are, I believe, two, Cuba and North Korea. Both countries are small, poor, and hardly in a position to threaten the world.

So where are these Communists you're referring to? Inquiring minds want to know. ;)

"You must spread reputation around... blah, blah, blah".... DAMN!

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You need to pay better attention then when they talk. And watch what they do. Actually,actions speak louder than words.

I am paying attention to their actions, which tell me that the Democrats are, by and large, bought and paid for corporate stooges like the Republicans.

If you think socialist is so great, perhaps you'd be happier in a country that is truly totally socialist.

Not sure what you mean by "truly totally" socialist, but I suspect I would probably be happier, and live better, in any number of European countries. However, there's nothing to stop me, as a patriotic American, from trying to improve my own country rather than deserting it.
 
Socialist Party USA

THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control - a non-racist, classless, feminist socialist society... where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically controlled public agencies; where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. We believe socialism and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future - to a real radical democracy from below. The Socialist Party fights for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. We support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the capitalist controlled two-party system, to present socialist alternatives. We strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. The Socialist Party is a democratic, multi-tendency organization, with structure and practices visible and accessible to all members
I bet you thought that when they used the word "democratic" It meant they had direct links to the democratic party, you did didn't you?

No I did not you pompous ass! Somebody on here said there was no socialist party in America. Well there is. and they are active. They are loved by the Democrats, however. When someone says "sky" you think it's "falling." You do, don't you?

No they said there is no socialist party OF America as it says in the ridiculous OP.
 

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