Socialism was Based on Christianity

[JakeStarkey]

Quick question.......if socialism is based in Christianity, then why is the Christian right so against it?

Oh yeah.........forgot...........they abandoned their ideals in the late 90's under the "greed is good" mantra.

Do you ever manage to produce a logical post?

Socialism is not based on real Christianity. Moron.

Go tell that to St. Peter.

 

[California Girl]

Quick question.......if socialism is based in Christianity, then why is the Christian right so against it?

Oh yeah.........forgot...........they abandoned their ideals in the late 90's under the "greed is good" mantra.

Do you ever manage to produce a logical post?

Socialism is not based on real Christianity. Moron.

Go tell that to St. Peter.

You do seem to have a very high opinion of your importance Joke. May I, respectfully, remind you that you aren't the boss here.... or anywhere else, I suspect.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are lost as usual, CG. I sure can correct when you are wrong, which is often. You need to study apostolic primitivism without looking like a fool before the next time you shoot off your mouth. But that is what most far right reactionaries like you do ~ shoot your mouth off without thinking about what you are saying. You are not right, you are not clever, but you are good for giggles, CG.

 

[California Girl]

You are lost as usual, CG. I sure can correct when you are wrong, which is often. You need to study apostolic primitivism without looking like a fool before the next time you shoot off your mouth.

Gee, does that mean I don't get to be in YOUR republican party any more? Ahhhhh, shucks. You're mean..... and stupid..... and arrogant.

Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail.

 

[JakeStarkey]

California Girl, somehow you as theologican just brings out the chuckles.

Go read about St. Peter, read Act 2, and think about it.

I want your vote for the GOP, but I don't want your input until you grow a bit older and wiser. You are still too young and foolish to offer much.

You neg rep and whine because of a difference of opinion. You are as silly as Megan McCain, CG.

 

[jillian]

Jesus was definitely socialist. He preached for socialism of the soul. To think outside of your own circumstances and care for others. Thats of course wrapped in love others as you love yourself.

There is nothing in the new testament that references socialism of government. I see nothing wrong for the people in this country to use their government to help improve their lives, especially for our less fortunate. How far we take that is always up for debate. But as long as government isn't oppressing the people, we should have the ability to use government however we want.

Interesting point but what is socialism without the state?

Marxism

 

[California Girl]

California Girl, somehow you as theologican just brings out the chuckles.

Go read about St. Peter, read Act 2, and think about it.

I want your vote for the GOP, but I don't want your input until you grow a bit older and wiser. You are still too young and foolish to offer much.

You neg rep and whine because of a difference of opinion. You are as silly as Megan McCain, CG.

No, little man. I neg you because you're a pompous ass who refuses even to give others the courtesy of quoting them when addressing them. This is the same as addressing the room in response to a question from an individual. This works fine if your a politician or such but on a message board, it just makes you look like a pompous, self opinionated ass.

Your GOP certainly won't get my vote until it behave less like 'DemLite' and more like a separate party. Oh, and if you could find yourselves some ethical, honest politicians, then maybe I might vote for them. But they have a looooong way to go before they are anything like a party I would vote for.

If I'm Megan McCain, you're Bozo the Clown, only without the humor.

 

[Gadawg73]

God is a Republican.
Don't any of you go to church?

 

[ABikerSailor]

You are lost as usual, CG. I sure can correct when you are wrong, which is often. You need to study apostolic primitivism without looking like a fool before the next time you shoot off your mouth.

Gee, does that mean I don't get to be in YOUR republican party any more? Ahhhhh, shucks. You're mean..... and stupid..... and arrogant.

Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail.

Okay CaliTwit, the sellout whale, here's your chance to prove that you're not just an empty headed bitchy bimbo.......

Post the Bible verses that confirm your claims.

But, I'm betting you won't..........probably an insult, a neg rep, and a refusal to answer.

But, what else could we expect from the bitchiness that is CaliTwit?

 

[sboyle24]

God is a Republican.
Don't any of you go to church?

God isn't either. What a ridiculous comment. You know what they call using religion to push your political ideals forward? I don't know either, but it's immoral to say the least.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What is it about God that makes any of you think He'd be a repugnican?

 

[California Girl]

You are lost as usual, CG. I sure can correct when you are wrong, which is often. You need to study apostolic primitivism without looking like a fool before the next time you shoot off your mouth.

Gee, does that mean I don't get to be in YOUR republican party any more? Ahhhhh, shucks. You're mean..... and stupid..... and arrogant.

Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail.

Okay CaliTwit, the sellout whale, here's your chance to prove that you're not just an empty headed bitchy bimbo.......

Post the Bible verses that confirm your claims.

But, I'm betting you won't..........probably an insult, a neg rep, and a refusal to answer.

But, what else could we expect from the bitchiness that is CaliTwit?

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'"

-Matthew 25:41-45

"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'"

-Matthew 19:21

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life."

-1 Timothy 6:17-19

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

-Ezekiel 16:49

"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."

-Proverbs 22:9



"Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a rich man whose ways are perverse."

-Proverbs 28:6

"The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern."

-Proverbs 29:7

"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."

-Proverbs 22:22-23

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."

-Deuteronomy 15:11


"He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and He will reward him for what he has done."

-Proverbs 19:17

 

[PeterS]

I've notice the comparisons between socialism/fascism/and communism and have been told that they were christian like. Some of this is true since it was the Saint-Simons of germany that were preaching a new political religion based on love and brotherhood. It sounds pretty christian so, for argument sakes, I'm going to give this one to our liberal friends that to be a christian is to believe in the ideas of socialism.

Don't we have the right to choose our own religion in this country and if socialism is something based on a religion doesn't that mean we can choose not to participate in the socialist religion?

discuss...

And a bird is like a plane so why not hop on that sparrow outside your window and fly to Dallas and we'll discuss it. Socialism isn't "something based on religion." Common ownership is based on the natural law of eminent domain and whether religious principles are also found in natural law does not change the fact that a bird is not a plane nor socialism christianity. And as long as you pay your taxes who cares if you participate or not.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Gee, does that mean I don't get to be in YOUR republican party any more? Ahhhhh, shucks. You're mean..... and stupid..... and arrogant.

Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail.

Okay CaliTwit, the sellout whale, here's your chance to prove that you're not just an empty headed bitchy bimbo.......

Post the Bible verses that confirm your claims.

But, I'm betting you won't..........probably an insult, a neg rep, and a refusal to answer.

But, what else could we expect from the bitchiness that is CaliTwit?

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'"

-Matthew 25:41-45

"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'"

-Matthew 19:21

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life."

-1 Timothy 6:17-19

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

-Ezekiel 16:49

"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."

-Proverbs 22:9



"Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a rich man whose ways are perverse."

-Proverbs 28:6

"The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern."

-Proverbs 29:7

"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."

-Proverbs 22:22-23

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."

-Deuteronomy 15:11


"He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and He will reward him for what he has done."

-Proverbs 19:17

Yo......CaliTwit...........did you even read what you'd first posted? Here.....I'll copy it down here as well.......

"Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail".

You do realize that the verses you posted, most of them directly contradict what you'd posted before? You get to pick and choose who you think is "poor" enough to qualify for your charity? What about the poor that you close your eyes to? Are they less worthy? Remember this verse that you'd just posted above?

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

It doesn't specify who is poor or not, just that if you close your eyes to them (decide who is worthy or not), you will receive many curses.

Fuck......you are one stupid bimbo bitch.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I know in the Mormon holy scriptures that their King Benjamin talks about this exact thing: God will condemn those who take it upon themselves to decide who is worthy of charity and who is not. It is an interesting read in either Mosiah 3 or 4.

 

[California Girl]

Okay CaliTwit, the sellout whale, here's your chance to prove that you're not just an empty headed bitchy bimbo.......

Post the Bible verses that confirm your claims.

But, I'm betting you won't..........probably an insult, a neg rep, and a refusal to answer.

But, what else could we expect from the bitchiness that is CaliTwit?

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'"

-Matthew 25:41-45

"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'"

-Matthew 19:21

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life."

-1 Timothy 6:17-19

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

-Ezekiel 16:49

"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."

-Proverbs 22:9



"Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a rich man whose ways are perverse."

-Proverbs 28:6

"The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern."

-Proverbs 29:7

"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."

-Proverbs 22:22-23

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."

-Deuteronomy 15:11


"He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and He will reward him for what he has done."

-Proverbs 19:17

Yo......CaliTwit...........did you even read what you'd first posted? Here.....I'll copy it down here as well.......

"Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail".

You do realize that the verses you posted, most of them directly contradict what you'd posted before? You get to pick and choose who you think is "poor" enough to qualify for your charity? What about the poor that you close your eyes to? Are they less worthy? Remember this verse that you'd just posted above?

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

It doesn't specify who is poor or not, just that if you close your eyes to them (decide who is worthy or not), you will receive many curses.

Fuck......you are one stupid bimbo bitch.

I find it interesting that, no matter what, you view your opinion as fact. And you can't create one post to me without insult. Evidence suggests that you are a very sad man. I think you suffer from 'short man' syndrome.

Entertainingly, whenever you post your silly vitriolic nonsense towards me, my rep goes up. Can you work out why that is? I can.

 

[Ravi]

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'"

-Matthew 25:41-45

"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'"

-Matthew 19:21

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life."

-1 Timothy 6:17-19

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

-Ezekiel 16:49

"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."

-Proverbs 22:9



"Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a rich man whose ways are perverse."

-Proverbs 28:6

"The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern."

-Proverbs 29:7

"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."

-Proverbs 22:22-23

"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."

-Deuteronomy 15:11


"He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and He will reward him for what he has done."

-Proverbs 19:17

Yo......CaliTwit...........did you even read what you'd first posted? Here.....I'll copy it down here as well.......

"Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail".

You do realize that the verses you posted, most of them directly contradict what you'd posted before? You get to pick and choose who you think is "poor" enough to qualify for your charity? What about the poor that you close your eyes to? Are they less worthy? Remember this verse that you'd just posted above?

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

It doesn't specify who is poor or not, just that if you close your eyes to them (decide who is worthy or not), you will receive many curses.

Fuck......you are one stupid bimbo bitch.

I find it interesting that, no matter what, you view your opinion as fact. And you can't create one post to me without insult. Evidence suggests that you are a very sad man. I think you suffer from 'short man' syndrome.

Entertainingly, whenever you post your silly vitriolic nonsense towards me, my rep goes up. Can you work out why that is? I can.

Pity rep. Jesus teaches not only to give to the poor in possessions but also to the poor in wit.

 

[California Girl]

Yo......CaliTwit...........did you even read what you'd first posted? Here.....I'll copy it down here as well.......

"Jesus did not say it was okay to take from some and give to others. He said we should be like Him. Free Will. That is what being charitable is. You don't get to be charitable with my money. I get to do that. Otherwise, it ain't charity. You think that by talking about 'apostolic primitivism' that is gonna impress me? Fail".

You do realize that the verses you posted, most of them directly contradict what you'd posted before? You get to pick and choose who you think is "poor" enough to qualify for your charity? What about the poor that you close your eyes to? Are they less worthy? Remember this verse that you'd just posted above?

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses."

-Proverbs 28:27

It doesn't specify who is poor or not, just that if you close your eyes to them (decide who is worthy or not), you will receive many curses.

Fuck......you are one stupid bimbo bitch.

I find it interesting that, no matter what, you view your opinion as fact. And you can't create one post to me without insult. Evidence suggests that you are a very sad man. I think you suffer from 'short man' syndrome.

Entertainingly, whenever you post your silly vitriolic nonsense towards me, my rep goes up. Can you work out why that is? I can.

Pity rep. Jesus teaches not only to give to the poor in possessions but also to the poor in wit.

Yep. I get 'poor you, having that obsessive lunatic whining at you' rep. If he and I had been at school together, he'd be the kid pulling my pigtails.

 

[G.T.]

There's no such thing as free will when every choice you make has a consequence.

 

[California Girl]

There's no such thing as free will when every choice you make has a consequence.

What total gibberish. The whole point is consequences.... You choose to do something, you choose to accept the consequences.