socialism Destroys Another Country

[Sallow]

So, anything other than socialism is regarded as slavery. Real smart there bub.

You really should have a look at history prior to the communist and socialist countries you seem to like to criticize to no end.

Nature abhors a vacuum Sallow. That was the only system available to them. And are you admitting that you want America to be socialist? Am I getting this right?

I'm sorry, what?

How do you make this cavernous logical leap?

I told you to pick up a history book.

Have a look at places like China and Russia before their respective revolutions.

Hell, try a more recent example. Cuba. You think Batista was a swell guy?

And no, I do not think America should become a socialist state.

However, having social programs that help the less fortunate? Or making sure that the wealth doesn't become so concentrated it destroys the Republic?

Yeah..I am in favor of those things.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You think most of this country was free at the turn of the 20st century? Most of the people were slaves to the barons and were treated worse off then Chinese sweat shop slaves.

So, anything other than socialism is regarded as slavery. Real smart there bub.

So we shouldn't regulate any part of our economy? Is that what you're saying???? I bet you'd disagree with paying taxes for infrastructure like paving your road and making sure the bridge down the street has strong supports.

We already do, Matt! Or have you been living in a cave all this time? I'd love for my taxes to go to infrastructure, if they actually got used for it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You really should have a look at history prior to the communist and socialist countries you seem to like to criticize to no end.

Nature abhors a vacuum Sallow. That was the only system available to them. And are you admitting that you want America to be socialist? Am I getting this right?

I'm sorry, what?

How do you make this cavernous logical leap?

I told you to pick up a history book.

Have a look at places like China and Russia before their respective revolutions.

Hell, try a more recent example. Cuba. You think Batista was a swell guy?

And no, I do not think America should become a socialist state.

However, having social programs that help the less fortunate? Or making sure that the wealth doesn't become so concentrated it destroys the Republic?

Yeah..I am in favor of those things.

Huh.

That's a nice speech, Sallow. What part of you says that it's wrong to help the less fortunate by stealing from the more prosperous? No part I'd wager. Because you think forcing generosity at proverbial gunpoint is how the rich should be treated. These programs you speak of tax the same people they are designed to help. The tax dollars come from the rich and poor alike. That's pretty sad. Alas, I don't need a history lecture from someone who repeatedly and conveniently forgets what Obama did wrong or lied about 5 years ago, much less yesterday.

 

[Edgetho]

You really should have a look at history prior to the communist and socialist countries you seem to like to criticize to no end.

Nature abhors a vacuum Sallow. That was the only system available to them. And are you admitting that you want America to be socialist? Am I getting this right?

I'm sorry, what?

How do you make this cavernous logical leap?

I told you to pick up a history book.

Have a look at places like China and Russia before their respective revolutions.

Hell, try a more recent example. Cuba. You think Batista was a swell guy?

And no, I do not think America should become a socialist state.

However, having social programs that help the less fortunate? Or making sure that the wealth doesn't become so concentrated it destroys the Republic?

Yeah..I am in favor of those things.

You're asking us to look back between a half and an entire Century, jump forward and say, "Look at how much better socialism made those places."

Childish and juvenile.

Look at how much better WE have it than we did as little as 50 years ago. The advances, the accumulation of wealth in this Country is staggering.

Instead of being a typically regressive socialist, which you are, let's take a look at one Country in particular.

One went Capitalist with us, the other went socialist with the Russians

dewd, that's not a photo-shopped image. It's real. Look at the differences between the Countries and tell me which one you want to live in.

In socialist Countries, there's three kinds of people, 1) the elites 2), the ones part of the nomenklatura (bureaucracy) and, 3) everybody else.

Groups 1 and 2 are about 25% of the population. Max. The other 75% are starving and freezing.

But those top 25%? They ain't complaining, they literally have the other 75% in slavery.

Just like you'd like to do to us.

Because, there is NO doubt that you fancy yourself as part of the top 25%.

Slavishly licking the boots of the thugs you serve without question, without conscience and without any thoughts whatsoever for your fellow Countrymen.

Sounds right

 

[martybegan]

Venezuela has cut poverty by 2/3, illiteracy by half, has added to average nutrition and housing. These riots are no big deal, just unemployed,and students unhappy with unemployment, barely covered beside this BS andprobably with their old oligarchy up to some covert financing. WONDER HOW UNEMPLOYMENT GOT SO BAD AROUND THE WORLD, DUMB FEQ PUB DUPES...AND THANKS FOR SCREWING UP THE RECOVERY FOR 4 YEARS.

Has little to do with socialism, more like greedy idiot Reaganism, Booosh's World Depression, and TP GOP mindless obstruction...

Nice spin you commie dickwad.

So i guess those things you talk about are TOTALLY WORTH crushing dissent, jailing the opposition, and destroying the business environment in a country.

Die in a fire you totalitarian asshole.

 

[editec]

Edge I gotta tell ya, you are by far the funniest anarchist I know. Don't back up daddy and keep the hits coming.

Edge is not even close to being an anarchist. I should know because I am one.

Are you really and truly or are you one of those "self proclaiming anarchists who simply want to change the way we govern ourselves?

I ask because most self proclaiming European Anarchists I knew believed in government, just the government THEY personally thought would work.

A true anarchist does not believe in government of ANY kind.

 

[1776]

Scum like you riot here because we don't try the Chavez experiment.....

So there have never been riots in capitalistic democracies or republics?

 

[Edgetho]

So this thread gets moved to the Siberia of the USMB while true SHIT piles up day after day on the 'Politics' Board. But socialism destroying another Country isn't really about Politics, I guess

Wonder who could be doing that? Anybody?

Why don't we just start a new Board called, "Things We Don't Want To Talk About Because It Makes Libturd Scum Uncomfortable Because They Can't Defend It"

Meanwhile, if you haven't seen this.....

Venezuela Protests | Marco Rubio | Media Coverage Venezuela

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EFS6cP9auDc]What's going on in Venezuela in a nutshell (English version) - YouTube[/ame]

But the protests are not receiving substantial media coverage, as Instapundit notes, even though Cuba training armed government groups attacking and killing protestors in Venezuela:

There is a very good reason Cuba’s Castro dictatorship is on the U.S. State Department’s list of States Sponsors of Terrorism. As the report and video below clearly show, Cuba’s repressive apartheid regime is training armed groups in Venezuela in the terrorist black art of repression, torture, and murder. This dark and bloody art is being put to use by Venezuela’s puppet dictatorship, which takes orders directly from Havana and has for the last week been attempting to quash mounting protests with violence and lethal force.

Anti-American thugs beating people up just doesn’t get the attention of the U.S. media, particularly when they are communists.

One would never suspect such a crisis is currently going on in Venezuela, to look at the homepages of CNN, Fox, CBS, and ABC News.

Instead, the games in Sochi dominate the homepages.

One can only hope that other public figures will take Rubio’s lead, and promote knowledge of the important on-going events in Venezuela.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nature abhors a vacuum Sallow. That was the only system available to them. And are you admitting that you want America to be socialist? Am I getting this right?

I'm sorry, what?

How do you make this cavernous logical leap?

I told you to pick up a history book.

Have a look at places like China and Russia before their respective revolutions.

Hell, try a more recent example. Cuba. You think Batista was a swell guy?

And no, I do not think America should become a socialist state.

However, having social programs that help the less fortunate? Or making sure that the wealth doesn't become so concentrated it destroys the Republic?

Yeah..I am in favor of those things.

You're asking us to look back between a half and an entire Century, jump forward and say, "Look at how much better socialism made those places."

Childish and juvenile.

Look at how much better WE have it than we did as little as 50 years ago. The advances, the accumulation of wealth in this Country is staggering.

Instead of being a typically regressive socialist, which you are, let's take a look at one Country in particular.

One went Capitalist with us, the other went socialist with the Russians

dewd, that's not a photo-shopped image. It's real. Look at the differences between the Countries and tell me which one you want to live in.

In socialist Countries, there's three kinds of people, 1) the elites 2), the ones part of the nomenklatura (bureaucracy) and, 3) everybody else.

Groups 1 and 2 are about 25% of the population. Max. The other 75% are starving and freezing.

But those top 25%? They ain't complaining, they literally have the other 75% in slavery.

Just like you'd like to do to us.

Because, there is NO doubt that you fancy yourself as part of the top 25%.

Slavishly licking the boots of the thugs you serve without question, without conscience and without any thoughts whatsoever for your fellow Countrymen.

Sounds right

That's the amazing thing about our Progressives, they all believe they'd be in the ruling elite

 

[MikeK]

It isn't socialism that failed in Venezuela, it is that nation's already failing economy which fell victim to laissez-faire capitalism and attempted to rescue itself by adopting socialist polices, which are blamed for the failure.

Socialism is often adopted by revolutionary governments when their exploitative economies reach the point of failure. But because the treasuries of these nations have been effectively drained by their capitalist leaderships the effort is hopeless to begin with. So the failure is conveniently blamed on socialism.

Socialism, when adopted by an economically viable nation, is invariably successful. Denmark being a prime example. Denmark is a socialist nation and has been declared the happiest country in the world. Denmark: The Happiest Place on Earth - ABC News

The closest the U.S. has come to socialism began with FDR's New Deal, which brought about our most prosperous and successful decades -- which commenced to decline with the advent of Reaganomics and the state of near collapse we've recently experienced.

 

[francoHFW]

Jeebus what a pile of Pubcrappe...Venezuela is not a dictatorship, and wasn't under Chavez. He was elected and everything he did was constitutional. Had 70 per cent approval.

HITLER WAS THE OPPOSITE OF SOCIALIST. HIS PARTY WAS CALLED THAT BEFORE HE TOOK IT OVER- THERE WERE ABOUT TEN MEMBERS, AND THE NAME WAS PURE PROPAGANDA. THIS IS A BRAND NEW bs ''theory''- started with ''Fascist Liberalism'' the book- ''Absolute drivel''- The Economist- and Glenn Beck about 2006 lol...for total dupes ONLY.

European Social Democracy is actually socialism- they call it that to not freak out brainwashed Americans lol. Socialism is always democratic, communism never. Communism has only been put in by violent revolution, in the most unfair and primitive capitalist countries.

 

[Shrimpbox]

The Siberia of the USMB while true shit piles up day after day on the politics board! I love it. The guys a genius. Where else can you get this for free? All hail Sir Edge.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Nature abhors a vacuum Sallow. That was the only system available to them. And are you admitting that you want America to be socialist? Am I getting this right?

I'm sorry, what?

How do you make this cavernous logical leap?

I told you to pick up a history book.

Have a look at places like China and Russia before their respective revolutions.

Hell, try a more recent example. Cuba. You think Batista was a swell guy?

And no, I do not think America should become a socialist state.

However, having social programs that help the less fortunate? Or making sure that the wealth doesn't become so concentrated it destroys the Republic?

Yeah..I am in favor of those things.

You're asking us to look back between a half and an entire Century, jump forward and say, "Look at how much better socialism made those places."

Childish and juvenile.

Look at how much better WE have it than we did as little as 50 years ago. The advances, the accumulation of wealth in this Country is staggering.

Instead of being a typically regressive socialist, which you are, let's take a look at one Country in particular.

One went Capitalist with us, the other went socialist with the Russians

dewd, that's not a photo-shopped image. It's real. Look at the differences between the Countries and tell me which one you want to live in.

In socialist Countries, there's three kinds of people, 1) the elites 2), the ones part of the nomenklatura (bureaucracy) and, 3) everybody else.

Groups 1 and 2 are about 25% of the population. Max. The other 75% are starving and freezing.

But those top 25%? They ain't complaining, they literally have the other 75% in slavery.

Just like you'd like to do to us.

Because, there is NO doubt that you fancy yourself as part of the top 25%.

Slavishly licking the boots of the thugs you serve without question, without conscience and without any thoughts whatsoever for your fellow Countrymen.

Sounds right

Why not put up a picture of Briton, Germany, Modern China, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan, etc that all invest in infrastructure, science, tech and education very heavily.

Now get back to me and answer me why we shouldn't? You do know Cuba and North Korea are centralized communist dictatorships that destroy human innovation and ideas? Ill be damned before I'd accept that.

 

[natstew]

Why are Progressive pushing for Socialism here at home? Are they retarded? Stupid? Ignorant?

All of the above.

Actually, that's the masses. the ruling elite are more in line with, "Evil Geniuses".

 

[natstew]

Why is it American libs support ruthless tyranny?

3 EU countries went up in flames
mexico sucks so bad people risk crossing the desert to get here
Ven has vast riots


jeezuz, and these people claim their name comes from liberty

It isn't liberals that support and or foster this sort of crap, it's conservatives.

What do you think Venezuela was before Chavez? A Paradise?

Or any country that either went socialist or communist.

What they were, were places where wealth was so concentrated that people were literally dying in the streets.

Revolutions don't happen because people are happy, ace.

And supporting Kings and Dictators inevitably leads to a popular revolt.

Hugo Chavez did not take over by Revolution, like Obama, he demonized the rich and promised the peasants a utopia that could never be delivered, and he had no intention of delivering anyway. To be re-elected he had his opponents arrested and imprisoned on false charges. He had the owners of Radio and TV stations arrested and installed his own operatives to run them.
He fired all the Supreme Court Justices, installed his own justices then had the Constitution amended to allow him to serve unlimited terms.

Obama was green with envy!