Socialism and the US Pledge of Allegiance

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    In the past few years there has been some discussion about the words "Under God" being in the US Pledge of Allegiance. Those two words are but a minor footnote in the true meaning of the pledge. It was written by a socialist that was seeking to indoctrinate children into accepting a socialist style government. It's not about patriotism to your country and your countryman, it is about being subservient to your government.
     
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    I've heard that. And that the first salute used was similar to the Nazi hand salute.
     
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    This is why we need to drop the pledge the all together. This nation wasn't founded on the idea that civilians should be pledging allegiance to the omnipotent state.
     
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    Maybe get rid of the entire pledge except for the "Under God" part. :eusa_whistle:
     
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    I don't see any problem with the pledge. Much of the rest of the world sees the US as a force for good and for liberty.

    Our foreign policy has obviously been derailed the last several years. Because of the invasion of Iraq, many countries have even said they believe we are more dangerous than al Qaeda and publicly ask "who’s next". Add the invasion to the US standing by and watching the murder of the Christians in Iraq and it's understandable.

    But generally, we are viewed as the land of opportunity and a place where people can be safe.

    With the election of President Obama, certainly the rest of the world feels safer. He doesn't seem to be a man who is guided by his "gut". I can't imagine him giving unwanted public massages to leaders of other countries or saying, "I looked into his eyes and saw his soul". Can you?

    Now I know someone is going to scream about a man who was in the Marines and the Navy Medical corps and was Valedictorian and was part of President Johnson’s surgery team and received 3 White House commendations because he was close to Obama. The right calls him a radical. If only the right had more "radicals".

    So, because the US is a force for good, invasion and torture excluded, it's ok to pledge to defend it.
     
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    How funny!

    Benjamin Harrison, Republican, made the proclamation that placed the pledge in public schools. Scratch a Republican and each time you find a control freak.

    :lol:
     
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    Yep. Ah, the irony. I have a huge problem with the concept of having children repeat an unthinking pledge of loyalty over and over. It's just creepy to me.

    Edit to add - Have you ever read "Looking Backward"? I read it in high school. Flat out delusional.
     
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