Soak the Rich, Lose the Rich

[Care4all]

they have spent and added to our national debt the past 8 years....

Which pales in comparison to what's happened in just the last six months..... Tripled and almost quadrupled what we saw the entire last eight years. And it WILL be quadrupled, probably before the end of this latest session of Congress.

simply not true and i have seen no numbers to support such MM, if you have numbers to show in 6 months they spent what bush did in 8 years, 4 fold....then please share!

and.......

good morning!

care

 

[sealybobo]

let's SOAK the middle class instead, to pay for all of congress's bailouts to Wall Street and spending sprees, that'll work! It will at least keep the Rich happy!

That's actually, exactly what's happening now, and will be happening alot more.

Because, even if Obama could tax the richest Americans, 100% for the next ten years, he couldn't pay for even half of this towering spending. And he knows that, that's why all the new, hidden taxes which will hit the poor, lower-middle class, middle class and upper middle class, the hardest. Because that's where the money is.

Oh fuck you. The Fed just spent $9 trillion in the last 8 months. That is what we can't afford.

Yet they don't talk about it on the news.

Tea bagger.


One Penny Sheet » Federal Reserve Cannot Account for $9 Trillion video

 

[sealybobo]

they have spent and added to our national debt the past 8 years....

Which pales in comparison to what's happened in just the last six months..... Tripled and almost quadrupled what we saw the entire last eight years. And it WILL be quadrupled, probably before the end of this latest session of Congress.

simply not true and i have seen no numbers to support such MM, if you have numbers to show in 6 months they spent what bush did in 8 years, 4 fold....then please share!

and.......

good morning!

care

The right wingers are going to put this all on Obama, watch and see:

One Penny Sheet » Federal Reserve Cannot Account for $9 Trillion video

 

[Midnight Marauder]

they have spent and added to our national debt the past 8 years....

Which pales in comparison to what's happened in just the last six months..... Tripled and almost quadrupled what we saw the entire last eight years. And it WILL be quadrupled, probably before the end of this latest session of Congress.

simply not true and i have seen no numbers to support such MM, if you have numbers to show in 6 months they spent what bush did in 8 years, 4 fold....then please share!

and.......

good morning!

care

The Congressional Budget Office projects that the annual deficit will grow to $984 billion for the first eight months of the current fiscal year, compared with a $319 billion shortfall for the same time period last year.

Congressional Budget Office - Home Page

And this is just the budget deficit, not the national debt you were referring to.

Both are different from spending, which you moved the goalposts to in your last post.

 

[HUGGY]

My Safe Shingle tear off system tests were successful. I can remove to bare plywood a strip 20 feet by 2 feet in less than a minute. I will be out in the market soon subcontracting with roofing companies.. I will make around ten million plus on this invention in the next couple of years. Then I will sell or liscence the idea and make maybe ten times that. I worked real hard to get to this point. I also realize that my little bit of success could not have happened anywhere else. In short I owe my community partially for being able doing what I do.

Power roof shingle removal tools strip roof like no shingle shovel

That thing is a forked rake. Nearly standard to the serrated shovel they comonly use already. My system uses a pneumatic ram and moves /advances 40'' in about 3 seconds with no effort other than operating some valves.

 

[Metternich]

let's SOAK the middle class instead, to pay for all of congress's bailouts to Wall Street and spending sprees, that'll work! It will at least keep the Rich happy!

How about the Gov takes care of defense and infrastructure and gets out of all the other little businesses they inserted themsleves into, and then they hardly need to tax anybody.

Why do you think the government got involved in all those other "little business'"?

Because in the long-run, they'd be dead.

 

[Care4all]

Which pales in comparison to what's happened in just the last six months..... Tripled and almost quadrupled what we saw the entire last eight years. And it WILL be quadrupled, probably before the end of this latest session of Congress.

simply not true and i have seen no numbers to support such MM, if you have numbers to show in 6 months they spent what bush did in 8 years, 4 fold....then please share!

and.......

good morning!

care

The Congressional Budget Office projects that the annual deficit will grow to $984 billion for the first eight months of the current fiscal year, compared with a $319 billion shortfall for the same time period last year.

Congressional Budget Office - Home Page

And this is just the budget deficit, not the national debt you were referring to.

Both are different from spending, which you moved the goalposts to in your last post.

FYI

Our fiscal year began October 1, 2008...
october 08
november 08
december 08
january 09
and even some of February spending in 09 was For the Bush Administration, obama was in office less than 10 days when february began...


This was ALL spending under the Bush Administration MM.

 

[ozzmdj]

Michigan could hit 20% jobless thanks to Obama The Hill’s Blog Briefing Room » Congressman: Michigan could hit 20% jobless thanks to Obama

 

[Political Junky]

Americans know how to use the moving van to escape high taxes.Soak the Rich, Lose the Rich - WSJ.com

Many of the rich put their money offshore to avoid paying taxes ... especially corporations.

 

[sealybobo]

Michigan could hit 20% jobless thanks to Obama The Hill’s Blog Briefing Room » Congressman: Michigan could hit 20% jobless thanks to Obama

Thanks to Obama? We've been bleeding jobs for the last 8 years. NAFTA is why Michigan is bleeding jobs.

And funny that when Bush was president, you righties said he didn't have anything to do with it. It was all Gov. Jenny Granholm.

What dishonest fucks you guys are. You argue from both sides of your mouth.

We all know why Michigan is hurting. Last year at this time you liars said Michigan was the only state hurting. I knew that was a lie, and you didn't.

Oh, and PS. Michigan isn't the worse state for foreclosures. A lot of states are worse off on this, like Arizona. Is that Obama's fault or McCain's?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Taxes are not retroactive. No one that is rich is going to be LESS rich paying future taxes..

You don't get taxed on what you have accumulated..you get taxed on future PROFIT.

This demonstrates how stupid and ignorant you are. The tax rate is known BEFORE the "profits" come in. Therefore the ADJUSTMENTS such as, cutting back on investments, expansion, raising wages, raising prices of goods and services, etc are done BEFORE the new rates come into effect.

The net effect is, LESS revenue.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

simply not true and i have seen no numbers to support such MM, if you have numbers to show in 6 months they spent what bush did in 8 years, 4 fold....then please share!

and.......

good morning!

care

The Congressional Budget Office projects that the annual deficit will grow to $984 billion for the first eight months of the current fiscal year, compared with a $319 billion shortfall for the same time period last year.

Congressional Budget Office - Home Page

And this is just the budget deficit, not the national debt you were referring to.

Both are different from spending, which you moved the goalposts to in your last post.

FYI

Our fiscal year began October 1, 2008...
october 08
november 08
december 08
january 09
and even some of February spending in 09 was For the Bush Administration, obama was in office less than 10 days when february began...


This was ALL spending under the Bush Administration MM.

Yes, argue with the CBO. Makes you look really studious!

 

[Xenophon]

Pussy!

Yes, you are, but that is not relivent just now.

Making excuses?

I know you will for the boob in chief.

I thought anyone can become successful in this country?

Under the old system yes, in Obama land, good luck, you will need it.

Last week I was arguing that it is a lot harder for middle class to become rich and righties were arguing with me.

It is harder, thanks to the hog wild socialism and government intrusion these days, its nearly impossible.

Now you are fucking admitting that I was right. Thanks buddy!

So you now admit both parties are the same and Obama sucks nuts just as bad as chimpola?

About time.

Now I want to see if the right wingers argue with you.

Why would they?

 

[sealybobo]

Pussy!

Yes, you are, but that is not relivent just now.

Making excuses?

I know you will for the boob in chief.

Under the old system yes, in Obama land, good luck, you will need it.

It is harder, thanks to the hog wild socialism and government intrusion these days, its nearly impossible.

Now you are fucking admitting that I was right. Thanks buddy!

So you now admit both parties are the same and Obama sucks nuts just as bad as chimpola?

About time.

Now I want to see if the right wingers argue with you.

Why would they?

I thought anyone can become successful in this country?

Under the old system yes, in Obama land, good luck, you will need it.

Wow: I mean, WOW! I absolutely love the hypocricy here. I was saying that the GOP made it harder for middle class Americans, and hell, I was saying it LAST WEEK and the righties were saying that I'm just making excuses.

I said that GOP policies hurt middle class people, and the righties said I was just a whiner and making excuses.

And here we got someone saying the exact same thing, only now its the socialist Democrats that are responsible.

It took 7 long years for GOPanomics to come crashing down. But Obama and the Democrats are already failures and its only 7 months in.

Dishonest fucks.

 

[sealybobo]

Pussy!

Yes, you are, but that is not relivent just now.

Making excuses?

I know you will for the boob in chief.

Under the old system yes, in Obama land, good luck, you will need it.

It is harder, thanks to the hog wild socialism and government intrusion these days, its nearly impossible.

Now you are fucking admitting that I was right. Thanks buddy!

So you now admit both parties are the same and Obama sucks nuts just as bad as chimpola?

Now I want to see if the right wingers argue with you.

Why would they?

Well we know GOPanomics didn't work, so what you are saying is true, if you were talking about the GOP.

over 5 million people have slipped into poverty;
nearly 7 million Americans have lost their health insurance;
median household income has gone down by nearly $1,300;
three million manufacturing jobs have been lost;
three million American workers have lost their pensions;
home foreclosures are now the highest on record;
the personal savings rate is below zero - which hasn't happened since the great depression;
the real earnings of college graduates have gone down by about 5% in the last few years;
entry level wages for male and female high school graduates have fallen by over 3%;
wages and salaries are now at the lowest share of GDP since 1929.


So we will see if you are right, IN 8 YEARS. I bet you are a premature ejaculator too.

 

[etouffe123]

The Eisenhower and Nixon Presidencies had a upper level of taxation of 71%. I did not notice any mass migration of the rich leaving the USA. Why? . The rich have an opportunity, through venture capital, to become richer (the mantra of the rich is MORE).
The budget reflects the way politics works in the USA. A Senator or Representative is sent to Washington to retreive tax dollars to be spent in enriching the district which elected them. The bigger the budget the more that will be spent resulting in happier voters (for the Senators or Representatives who brought home the bacon). This is why such people as Jessie Helms. Byrd of VA and Murtha can hang onto their positions. They continually had plenty of pork for their constituents.
The current "borrow and spend" can be traced back to Reagan and his voodo economics.
Look it up before you say I'm in error. It continued a upward spiral until Clinton where it had a brief blip downward (due in part to cutting federal employees). With Obama it is continuing a upward trend even more rapidly.
Obama realizes that if he can spread the pork his 2nd term is assured.

 

[ozzmdj]

Another example of how high taxes are bad for the economyAnother example of how high taxes are bad for the economy

 

[sealybobo]

We have proven GOPanomics don't work, yet righties still argue. So why would we believe them on anything regarding the economy when they are/were dead wrong all along?

So remember anyone who is not a right wing tool that the righties WANT Obama and the Dems to fail. They haven't failed yet, but the righties say they have and/or if not yet, they will.

But again, why believe them? They were wrong about GOPanomics, and to this day continue to argue for all the GOP's failed policies.

And keep in mind they are the worst kind of socialists. They only socialize the losses. They privatize the profits. So the government (you) get fucked while the corporations make out. They did this with Iraq too. We picked up the bill but private corporations are making trillions of dollars. This has certainly helped bankrupt our country.

And they did this with the bankers too. The bankers made huge profits and then we bailed them out in the end??? And then they spent an extra $9 trillion in the last 8 months and all of you are god damned clueless about this?

So fuck anyone who is a right winger. You are just ignorant. I can agree with some of what you guys are saying but you are missing half the fucking story. Is it on purpose? Sometimes I wonder.

Right wingers are just middle class schmucks who are afraid that change might hurt them. They don't want to try and do better because they think change will hurt them. So even if change will help the masses, they prefer to fuck the masses and leave things along. They don't want to take risks.

Just like with their savings. When you are young, you invest in things a little riskier than if you are ready to retire because you want more. When you retire, you put your money in something that is safe. Well fixing healthcare and taking on the Federal Reserve might be risky, but we can do better and we want more. But the old farts will want to keep the status quo.

 

[ozzmdj]

More words of ignorance from tax and spend Statist that know nothing about economics.

 

[Shogun]

so.. the guy acting like the economic expert likes to post blogs as evidence.


rich.

and, the ole trusty, "you just don't know anything about economics" line.. HILARIOUS this side of 90's Greenspan economic testimony and the failure of an aftermath that capitalistas bray on about.