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Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.
 
Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.

Over 1000 IRS agents.

But not a single doctor or nurse.

Genius, huh?
 
Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.

Where's your link? That's yet another example of Republican embellishment of truth. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk continue with their distortions.

PolitiFact | Michele Bachmann repeats claim that health care bill will require 16,500 new IRS agents
CBO did offer an estimate of the costs to the IRS for "implementing the eligibility determination, documentation, and verification processes for premium and cost-sharing credits." The IRS, the analysis said, "would probably" need to spend "between $5 billion and $10 billion over 10 years."

However, CBO did not translate that dollar range into a possible number of new hires. Instead, that task was taken up by another group -- the Republican staff of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction for taxes.

On March 18, 2010, the House Ways and Means Republicans released a report titled, "The Wrong Prescription: Democrats’ Health Overhaul Dangerously Expands IRS Authority." The report acknowledged that it is "impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill." Still, it uses IRS data and "reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities" to suggest that as many as 16,500 additional "examiners, agents and other employees" could be needed.

The Ways and Means Republicans used the high end of CBO's cost estimate of $10 billion over 10 years.

That's one of their favorites. The other is continuing to imply that there will be cuts in Medicare, when the $500 billion in proposed cuts come from ending insurance company subsidies for the OPTIONAL Medicare Advantage program for extra coverage not provided by standard Medicare.
 
Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.

Where's your link? That's yet another example of Republican embellishment of truth. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk continue with their distortions.

PolitiFact | Michele Bachmann repeats claim that health care bill will require 16,500 new IRS agents
CBO did offer an estimate of the costs to the IRS for "implementing the eligibility determination, documentation, and verification processes for premium and cost-sharing credits." The IRS, the analysis said, "would probably" need to spend "between $5 billion and $10 billion over 10 years."

However, CBO did not translate that dollar range into a possible number of new hires. Instead, that task was taken up by another group -- the Republican staff of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction for taxes.

On March 18, 2010, the House Ways and Means Republicans released a report titled, "The Wrong Prescription: Democrats’ Health Overhaul Dangerously Expands IRS Authority." The report acknowledged that it is "impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill." Still, it uses IRS data and "reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities" to suggest that as many as 16,500 additional "examiners, agents and other employees" could be needed.

The Ways and Means Republicans used the high end of CBO's cost estimate of $10 billion over 10 years.

That's one of their favorites. The other is continuing to imply that there will be cuts in Medicare, when the $500 billion in proposed cuts come from ending insurance company subsidies for the OPTIONAL Medicare Advantage program for extra coverage not provided by standard Medicare.

So your position is that the Senator from Wyoming is a liar?
 
Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.

Over 1000 IRS agents.

But not a single doctor or nurse.

Genius, huh?

So now you want more doctors and nurses on the government payroll? Make up your minds.
 
Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.

Where's your link? That's yet another example of Republican embellishment of truth. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk continue with their distortions.

PolitiFact | Michele Bachmann repeats claim that health care bill will require 16,500 new IRS agents
CBO did offer an estimate of the costs to the IRS for "implementing the eligibility determination, documentation, and verification processes for premium and cost-sharing credits." The IRS, the analysis said, "would probably" need to spend "between $5 billion and $10 billion over 10 years."

However, CBO did not translate that dollar range into a possible number of new hires. Instead, that task was taken up by another group -- the Republican staff of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction for taxes.

On March 18, 2010, the House Ways and Means Republicans released a report titled, "The Wrong Prescription: Democrats’ Health Overhaul Dangerously Expands IRS Authority." The report acknowledged that it is "impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill." Still, it uses IRS data and "reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities" to suggest that as many as 16,500 additional "examiners, agents and other employees" could be needed.

The Ways and Means Republicans used the high end of CBO's cost estimate of $10 billion over 10 years.

That's one of their favorites. The other is continuing to imply that there will be cuts in Medicare, when the $500 billion in proposed cuts come from ending insurance company subsidies for the OPTIONAL Medicare Advantage program for extra coverage not provided by standard Medicare.

So your position is that the Senator from Wyoming is a liar?

A liar by omission. The cons have made it an art form.
 
Where's your link? That's yet another example of Republican embellishment of truth. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk continue with their distortions.

PolitiFact | Michele Bachmann repeats claim that health care bill will require 16,500 new IRS agents


That's one of their favorites. The other is continuing to imply that there will be cuts in Medicare, when the $500 billion in proposed cuts come from ending insurance company subsidies for the OPTIONAL Medicare Advantage program for extra coverage not provided by standard Medicare.

So your position is that the Senator from Wyoming is a liar?

A liar by omission. The cons have made it an art form.

Wrong you are and that's your art form. sorry loser,, sorry
 
Over 1000 IRS agents.

But not a single doctor or nurse.

Genius, huh?

Stepping back to last summer and looking just at money released last year from the ACA's Prevention and Public Health Fund:

Today, the Obama Administration announced the first allocation of $500 million for the new Prevention and Public Health fund for fiscal year 2010. Half of this fund – $250 million – will be used to boost the supply of primary care providers in this country by providing new resources for:

  • Creating additional primary care residency slots: $168 million for training more than 500 new primary care physicians by 2015;
  • Supporting physician assistant training in primary care: $32 million for supporting the development of more than 600 new physician assistants, who practice medicine as members of a team with their supervising physician, and can be trained in a shorter period of time compared to physicians;
  • Increasing the number of nurse practitioners trained: $30 million will train an additional 600 nurse practitioners, including providing incentives for part-time students to become full-time and complete their education sooner. Nurse practitioners provide comprehensive primary care;
  • Establishing new nurse practitioner-led clinics: $15 million for the operation of 10 nurse-managed health clinics which assist in the training of nurse practitioners. These clinics are staffed by nurse practitioners, which provide comprehensive primary health care services to populations living in medically underserved communities.
  • Encouraging States to plan for and address health professional workforce needs: $5 million for States to plan and implement innovative strategies to expand their primary care workforce by 10 to 25 percent over ten years to meet increased demand for primary care services.

And that's not even getting to things that actually come out of the health care workforce title of the law.
 
Here ya lazy little shit. It's already made it to You Tube.



 
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Here ya lazy little shit. It's already made it to You Tube.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atyhNouWac

Willow, use your noodle. There is almost no provision of Obamacare that was effective last year. What would these new IRS agents be auditing? The meat and potatoes of Obamacare are not scheduled to go into effect until 2014, which means the earliest compliance could be audited would be 2015.

BTW, the IRS does not hire auditors off the street. The IRS usually hires qualified people at entry level jobs and promotes them up the food chain, as their training and experience permits. An IRS field auditor is a VERY sophisticated position.


QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:
In order for your application to be considered, you must meet the following requirements by the closing date of this announcement:

YOU MUST SUBMIT PROOF OF MEETING THE BASIC EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS STATED ABOVE. A copy of transcript(s), a copy of a CPA or CIA certificate or license, or a list of related college courses completed (including the name of the attended college/university, its location, courses' names, number of credit hours and the grades you received for those courses) is REQUIRED. Transcripts can be unofficial copies, but they must come from an accredited college or university, and they also must include the courses' names, number of credit hours and the grades you received for those courses. Please ensure that the transcripts or list of completed college courses you have provided include information relevant to the basic education requirements. If your transcripts do not show this required information, your application will not be qualified for this position and will not receive any further consideration. If you have held a position in the Federal government that required these basic requirements for appointment (e.g. Auditor, Accountant, Internal Revenue Agent, etc.), then an SF-50 showing that you held such a position will be accepted as meeting the basic education requirements for this position. If selected, you will need to verify that you meet these requirements before appointment.

A. Degree: accounting and/or auditing; or a degree in a related field such as business administration, finance, or public administration that included or was supplemented by 24 semester hours in accounting and/or auditing. The 24 hours may include up to 6 hours of credit in business law. (The term "accounting" means "accounting and/or auditing" in this standard. Similarly, "accountant" should be interpreted, generally, as "accountant and/or auditor.")

OR

B. Combination of education and experience--at least 4 years of experience in accounting and/or auditing, or an equivalent combination of accounting and/or auditing experience, college-level education, and training that provided professional accounting and/or auditing knowledge. The applicant's background must also include one of the following:

1. Twenty-four semester hours in accounting or auditing courses of appropriate type and quality. This can include up to 6 hours of business law;

2. A certificate as Certified Public Accountant or a Certified Internal Auditor, obtained through written examination; or

3. Completion of the requirements for a degree that included substantial course work in accounting or auditing, e.g., 15 semester hours, but that does not fully satisfy the 24-semester-hour requirement of paragraph A, provided that (a) the applicant has successfully worked at the full-performance level in accounting, auditing, or a related field, e.g., valuation engineering or financial institution examining; (b) a panel of at least two higher level professional accountants and/or auditors has determined that the applicant has demonstrated a good knowledge of accounting and/or auditing and of related and underlying fields that equals in breadth, depth, currency, and level of advancement that which is normally associated with successful completion of the 4-year course of study described in paragraph A; and (c) except for literal nonconformance to the requirement of 24 semester hours in accounting, the applicant's education, training, and experience fully meet the specified requirements.

The education generally must be from an accredited (or pre-accredited) college or university recognized by the U.S. Department of Education.
AND
You must have one year of specialized experience at a level of difficulty and responsibility equivalent to the GS-13 grade level in the Federal service. Such experience should include demonstrated knowledge and experience in conducting and overseeing financial audits in conformity with professional and regulatory standards and guidance.

The experience may have been gained in either the public or private sector. One year of experience refers to full-time work; part-time work is considered on a prorated basis.

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BTW, at this time the IRS is looking to hire exactly ONE such employee.

God gave you a brain, Willow. It may not be the best, but it'd be nice if you did some rudimentary critical thinking with it rather than swallowing whatever any conservative says to you hook, line and sinker.
 
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Here ya lazy little shit. It's already made it to You Tube.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atyhNouWac

BarrASSo was also the one (on C-Span about a week ago as a guest) who lied by omission that $500 billion would be cut from Medicare. No, it won't. That amount will be cut not from the standard Medicare funding affecting standard benefits, but from Medicare ADVANTAGE. I rest my case.
 
Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.

Where's your link? That's yet another example of Republican embellishment of truth. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk continue with their distortions.

PolitiFact | Michele Bachmann repeats claim that health care bill will require 16,500 new IRS agents
CBO did offer an estimate of the costs to the IRS for "implementing the eligibility determination, documentation, and verification processes for premium and cost-sharing credits." The IRS, the analysis said, "would probably" need to spend "between $5 billion and $10 billion over 10 years."

However, CBO did not translate that dollar range into a possible number of new hires. Instead, that task was taken up by another group -- the Republican staff of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction for taxes.

On March 18, 2010, the House Ways and Means Republicans released a report titled, "The Wrong Prescription: Democrats’ Health Overhaul Dangerously Expands IRS Authority." The report acknowledged that it is "impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill." Still, it uses IRS data and "reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities" to suggest that as many as 16,500 additional "examiners, agents and other employees" could be needed.

The Ways and Means Republicans used the high end of CBO's cost estimate of $10 billion over 10 years.

That's one of their favorites. The other is continuing to imply that there will be cuts in Medicare, when the $500 billion in proposed cuts come from ending insurance company subsidies for the OPTIONAL Medicare Advantage program for extra coverage not provided by standard Medicare.

So your position is that the Senator from Wyoming is a liar?

Isn't that the same place Cheney is from
 
Liar, embellisher, in error...what difference does it make, Willow? You should not accept preposterous claims from anyone when common sense suggests they might could be wrong.
 
Was listening to the Senate C-Span and the Senator from Wyoming who is a Physician reiterates that obie wan has budgeted for 1000 more IRS agents to oversee our compliance with his shamaramacare... gov. take over is on da way.

Where's your link? That's yet another example of Republican embellishment of truth. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk continue with their distortions.

PolitiFact | Michele Bachmann repeats claim that health care bill will require 16,500 new IRS agents
CBO did offer an estimate of the costs to the IRS for "implementing the eligibility determination, documentation, and verification processes for premium and cost-sharing credits." The IRS, the analysis said, "would probably" need to spend "between $5 billion and $10 billion over 10 years."

However, CBO did not translate that dollar range into a possible number of new hires. Instead, that task was taken up by another group -- the Republican staff of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction for taxes.

On March 18, 2010, the House Ways and Means Republicans released a report titled, "The Wrong Prescription: Democrats’ Health Overhaul Dangerously Expands IRS Authority." The report acknowledged that it is "impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill." Still, it uses IRS data and "reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities" to suggest that as many as 16,500 additional "examiners, agents and other employees" could be needed.

The Ways and Means Republicans used the high end of CBO's cost estimate of $10 billion over 10 years.

That's one of their favorites. The other is continuing to imply that there will be cuts in Medicare, when the $500 billion in proposed cuts come from ending insurance company subsidies for the OPTIONAL Medicare Advantage program for extra coverage not provided by standard Medicare.

So your position is that the Senator from Wyoming is a liar?

Do you think Obama is a liar? How can you think one politician can be a liar but not another? :cuckoo:
 

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