So Why Do You Hate Obama?

[Sallow]

It shows his two faced policy decision making mentality.

By the way, how do you feel about Obama ordering the killing of all those people in UBL's compound? Isnt that worse than capturing them and running water over their faces?

I loved it. It sends a very clear message. If you kill Americans you..and everyone around you is subject to the wrath of America.

You can run..but you can't hide.

So we can just kill them without a trial even when they are unarmed but we cant detain and waterboard them?

Yep

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I loved it. It sends a very clear message. If you kill Americans you..and everyone around you is subject to the wrath of America.

You can run..but you can't hide.

So we can just kill them without a trial even when they are unarmed but we cant detain and waterboard them?

Yep

Hack

 

[GHook93]

I personally think he does want he thinks is right. I think he's a moral man just a misguided man by liberal insanity!

I strongly disagree with most of his policies.

For example, his strong beliefs to do what is right is to reform healthcare. Believe it or not healthcare reform was STRONGLY needed and still is STRONGLY needed. The GOP ideas of cross border selling (as if UHC, BC/CS etc don't set up in all states anyways), tort reform and health saving accounts are bogus solutions that don't accomplish anything! Yet Obaminationcare was beyond stupidity and bad legislation.

 

[Sallow]

So we can just kill them without a trial even when they are unarmed but we cant detain and waterboard them?

Yep

Hack

Cough Drop.

 

[Immanuel]

Merely repeating yourself isn't an argument. It is babbling.

Do moderates believe the Constitution is flawed and needs to contain redistribution of wealth? No, I dont think so.
Obama rips U.S. Constitution

I know you've been brainwashed by FOX and World Nut Daily (did you REALLY post a link to World Nut Daily?...Imbecile) to believe that President Obama is a far left, socialist, Marxist, nazi, muslim or whatever, but he isn't. Even the infamous "Obamacare" isn't anything resembling a "far left" idea. A "far left" health care plan would have been universal health care or at least a public option.

Reagan raised taxes 11 times. Isn't that what you ascribe "redistribution of wealth" to be? Imbecile.

Not to point out the obvious (but I will anyways!) Sea, but Barack Obama WANTED universal health care he just couldn't GET universal health care. He also wanted Cap & Trade and Card Check but didn't GET either of those things either. The same for raising taxes on the wealthy. Trying to pass things and not being able to pull it off isn't the same as not wanting them in the first place. That doesn't prove that Obama is a "moderate" it just proves he's not very good at putting together political alliances and passing HIS agenda despite having super majorities to work with. In other words...he's incompetent.

I disagree.

He "wanted" those things when he was campaigning for President. He was campaigning. He had to convince the progressives that he was the best thing since sliced bread and he succeeded in doing that. In fact, I believe that is the last thing politically he actually succeeded in doing.

Immie

 

[HUGGY]

I don't 'hate' him, I just disagree with the majority of what he says and does.

But thanks for the overly emotional hysteria.

What exactly was over emotional and hysterical about the OP? Clinton gave the far right and the corporate fascists almost everything they ever dreamed of accomplishing and they did the same thing to him.

For someone that is supposedly the most intelligent member of USMB you ask some pretty stupid questions at times.

What important piece of republican legislation has Obama rejected from his veto power in your opinion?

I understand that Obama ran on the democratic ticket. Did you think he would not sponsor and support some progressive ideas? Still he has bent over backward to accommodate most republican demands and in several cases outright blackmail.

The knee jerk reply you offered does not reflect well on the LEGEND of your mental superiority.

 

[Rocko]

His foreign policy has been much stronger then Bush's. He's reassured allies and killed enemies.

He's the Michael Corleone of Presidents.

Corleone family's enemies - YouTube

He's reasured allies like Russia, so much so that they are helping Iran make nukes.

Meanwhile enemies like the Czech Republic and Poland could kiss his ass, because him and Russia hit the reset button.

Iran just suffered a pretty big cyber attack.

Set the nuke program back years.

http://http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-12-09-48-41

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

I don't 'hate' him, I just disagree with the majority of what he says and does.

But thanks for the overly emotional hysteria.

What exactly was over emotional and hysterical about the OP? Clinton gave the far right and the corporate fascists almost everything they ever dreamed of accomplishing and they did the same thing to him.

For someone that is supposedly the most intelligent member of USMB you ask some pretty stupid questions at times.

What important piece of republican legislation has Obama rejected from his veto power in your opinion?

I understand that Obama ran on the democratic ticket. Did you think he would not sponsor and support some progressive ideas? Still he has bent over backward to accommodate most republican demands and in several cases outright blackmail.

The knee jerk reply you offered does not reflect well on the LEGEND of your mental superiority.

Thanks to Harry and his boys in the Senate, it didn't get to Barry, but I would say that one of the most important pieces of Republican legislation that Barry threatened to veto was Cut, Cap and Balance. Had it passed, S&P would have reinstated the triple A rating. Another was the relaxing of restrictions on drilling in the gulf. Naturally, Barry didn't have to veto it either, he simply over rode it with Executive Order and had Harry and the boys kill it in committee.

The reason Clinton was so successful is because he took the Republican agenda and made it his own. Welfare reform for one was an unqualified success and Clinton put his mark on it. "The era of big government is over." Clinton didn't see Barry coming down the pike.

 

[edjax1952]

I do not hate Obama. I do think he represents:
1. The ideas of many who desire America to move from a distinguished, leader of nations to the status of a nation among nations.
2. The idea that America should be a nation of socialist values in place of equal rights among men.
3. The idea that we, as Americans, should abandon our own interests in order to be more a part of the world order.
I could go on.
These are the ideas of many Americans and I do not deny them the right to have the ideas. However when those ideas threaten my ability to live in America with equal rights and ability to live a freeman without interference from government, it becomes time to speak out about those things that hinder my rights and ability to live as a freeman. This includes infringement on my wages, my personal decisions on my individual health, and my ability to start and maintain a profitable business and whether I desire to contribute or not contribute to the failure of others to be able to maintain or create a desirable life or wealth for themselves.
This is very similar to owning a plot of land and having rattlesnakes occupy the land. It is tolerable, and maybe even acceptable and desirous, to have rattlesnakes on the land as they are a part of the whole in the balance of natural things. When those rattlesnakes rise in numbers and begin to assume dominance over the land I own I am no longer able to walk freely about because of the threat of being bitten by the rattlesnakes, it is my responsibility to thin the population and therefore the threat to myself without upsetting the natural balance that was in place before the rise in their population.
All things have a place in our society and our natural world. When any of those things dominate the balance and cause undue concern, it is the duty of responsible people to help to restore that balance.

 

[DaGoose]

I do not hate Obama. I do think he represents:
1. The ideas of many who desire America to move from a distinguished, leader of nations to the status of a nation among nations.
2. The idea that America should be a nation of socialist values in place of equal rights among men.
3. The idea that we, as Americans, should abandon our own interests in order to be more a part of the world order.
I could go on.
These are the ideas of many Americans and I do not deny them the right to have the ideas. However when those ideas threaten my ability to live in America with equal rights and ability to live a freeman without interference from government, it becomes time to speak out about those things that hinder my rights and ability to live as a freeman. This includes infringement on my wages, my personal decisions on my individual health, and my ability to start and maintain a profitable business and whether I desire to contribute or not contribute to the failure of others to be able to maintain or create a desirable life or wealth for themselves.
This is very similar to owning a plot of land and having rattlesnakes occupy the land. It is tolerable, and maybe even acceptable and desirous, to have rattlesnakes on the land as they are a part of the whole in the balance of natural things. When those rattlesnakes rise in numbers and begin to assume dominance over the land I own I am no longer able to walk freely about because of the threat of being bitten by the rattlesnakes, it is my responsibility to thin the population and therefore the threat to myself without upsetting the natural balance that was in place before the rise in their population.
All things have a place in our society and our natural world. When any of those things dominate the balance and cause undue concern, it is the duty of responsible people to help to restore that balance.

I call bullshit to all three of your points.

Obama has furthered just about everything the Conservatives have said needed done. That includes cutting taxes, cutting the size of government and decreasing regulations on companies.

Conservatives were for a national healthcare system before they flip-flopped and decided to oppose it just because Clinton and Obama pushed for it. Conservatives knew it would help companies compete since they wouldn't have to shell out so much for employee healthcare. It also promotes personal responsibility.

Your comments on your ability to "live a freeman without interference from government" baffles me the most. It's the WINGNUTS that want the government to involve itself in your personal life. They're the ones that push for laws on abortion, recreational drug use, euthanasia, gay marriage, etc.. THEY want to tell you how to live your life. Not progressives.

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[eflatminor]

He pretty much stands for and accomplished everything the Right wants..

The Progressive right? Sure, he's as much a big government nanny state meddler as past Presidents, D or R. In fact, more so.

What's your point?

He sure as hell doesn't stand for limited government and maximum liberty, what Republicans used to stand for and what Libertarians have always stood for.

You just don't get it, slamming the "right" as though there's any real difference from the "left". For the last 40+ years at least, both have grown government and debt. Time to change that with politicians and policies that are neither left nor right, but those that are first and foremost, Constitutionally limited in their powers. Your big government meddling from both parties has not worked and is not fiscally sustainable. Time to grow a pair and take on some personal responsibility. Good luck.

 

[The Infidel]

I don't 'hate' him, I just disagree with the majority of what he says and does.

But thanks for the overly emotional hysteria.

Deserves repeating...

 

[The Infidel]

Yep

Hack

Cough Drop.

RIIIICCCCOOOOOOLLLLLLAAAAAA..!

 

[Seawytch]

Merely repeating yourself isn't an argument. It is babbling.

Do moderates believe the Constitution is flawed and needs to contain redistribution of wealth? No, I dont think so.
Obama rips U.S. Constitution

I know you've been brainwashed by FOX and World Nut Daily (did you REALLY post a link to World Nut Daily?...Imbecile) to believe that President Obama is a far left, socialist, Marxist, nazi, muslim or whatever, but he isn't. Even the infamous "Obamacare" isn't anything resembling a "far left" idea. A "far left" health care plan would have been universal health care or at least a public option.

Reagan raised taxes 11 times. Isn't that what you ascribe "redistribution of wealth" to be? Imbecile.

So you're saying that Obama did not give a radio interview where he stated the Constitution was flawed and should have contained redistributionist policies?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFf7DU9ywQ4]Obama BOMBSHELL 2001 Audio UNCOVERED - YouTube[/ame]

The reason they didnt include single payer is as follows, as explained by your butt buddy Barney Frank.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLm9t9j-qKM]Public option will lead to Single Payer Barney Frank - YouTube[/ame]

Tired canard...

"In this interview back in 2001, Obama was talking about the civil rights movement — and the kind of work that has to be done on the ground to make sure that everyone can live out the promise of equality," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said. "Make no mistake, this has nothing to do with Obama’s economic plan or his plan to give the middle class a tax cut. It’s just another distraction from an increasingly desperate McCain campaign."
Burton continued: "In the interview, Obama went into extensive detail to explain why the courts should not get into that business of ‘redistributing’ wealth. Obama’s point — and what he called a tragedy — was that legal victories in the civil rights led too many people to rely on the courts to change society for the better. That view is shared by conservative judges and legal scholars across the country.
"As Obama has said before and written about, he believes that change comes from the bottom up — not from the corridors of Washington," Burton said. "He worked in struggling communities to improve the economic situation of people on the South Side of Chicago, who lost their jobs when the steel plants closed. And he’s worked as a legislator to provide tax relief and health care to middle-class families. And so, Obama’s point was simply that if we want to improve economic conditions for people in this country, we should do so by bringing people together at the community level and getting everyone involved in our democratic process."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/10/mccain-to-attac/

Can anyone name one "liberal" policy of President Obama's?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Three Thousand?

Where did you get that number?

According to About.com the number of troops still in Iraq (as of 6/30/11) is 44,000.



Iraq War Facts, Statistics at August 30, 2011 - Iraq War Casualties, Spending

Immie

Get with the program. Its his early withdrawl plan.

which is just bush's withdrawl plan...

 

[L.K.Eder]

i don't hate obama, i just disagree with his policies.

oh yeah, what policies do you disagree with?

durr durr, teleprompter, bill ayers, hussein, i am not a racist, you RACIST.

 

[edjax1952]

I do not hate Obama. I do think he represents:
1. The ideas of many who desire America to move from a distinguished, leader of nations to the status of a nation among nations.
2. The idea that America should be a nation of socialist values in place of equal rights among men.
3. The idea that we, as Americans, should abandon our own interests in order to be more a part of the world order.
I could go on.
These are the ideas of many Americans and I do not deny them the right to have the ideas. However when those ideas threaten my ability to live in America with equal rights and ability to live a freeman without interference from government, it becomes time to speak out about those things that hinder my rights and ability to live as a freeman. This includes infringement on my wages, my personal decisions on my individual health, and my ability to start and maintain a profitable business and whether I desire to contribute or not contribute to the failure of others to be able to maintain or create a desirable life or wealth for themselves.
This is very similar to owning a plot of land and having rattlesnakes occupy the land. It is tolerable, and maybe even acceptable and desirous, to have rattlesnakes on the land as they are a part of the whole in the balance of natural things. When those rattlesnakes rise in numbers and begin to assume dominance over the land I own I am no longer able to walk freely about because of the threat of being bitten by the rattlesnakes, it is my responsibility to thin the population and therefore the threat to myself without upsetting the natural balance that was in place before the rise in their population.
All things have a place in our society and our natural world. When any of those things dominate the balance and cause undue concern, it is the duty of responsible people to help to restore that balance.

I call bullshit to all three of your points.

Obama has furthered just about everything the Conservatives have said needed done. That includes cutting taxes, cutting the size of government and decreasing regulations on companies.

Conservatives were for a national healthcare system before they flip-flopped and decided to oppose it just because Clinton and Obama pushed for it. Conservatives knew it would help companies compete since they wouldn't have to shell out so much for employee healthcare. It also promotes personal responsibility.

Your comments on your ability to "live a freeman without interference from government" baffles me the most. It's the WINGNUTS that want the government to involve itself in your personal life. They're the ones that push for laws on abortion, recreational drug use, euthanasia, gay marriage, etc.. THEY want to tell you how to live your life. Not progressives.

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Your ability for doublespeak impresses me but it does not change my conception of basic truths as I perceive them.

 

[MiddleClass]

The same reason why Democrats hater Bush - Politics. Nothing to do with character, religion, race, etc. Just partisan politics is why Republicans hate Obama. Democrats hated Bush for the same reason.

 

[Meister]

i don't hate obama, i just disagree with his policies.

oh yeah, what policies do you disagree with?

durr durr, teleprompter, bill ayers, hussein, i am not a racist, you RACIST.

If your going to complain about Obama...please be more specific, like his Cap and Trade policy that the EPA is enforcing for him, or maybe Obamacare, or even his oil drilling policies., But...durr, durr, and your a racist....what's that all about?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

i don't hate obama, i just disagree with his policies.

oh yeah, what policies do you disagree with?

durr durr, teleprompter, bill ayers, hussein, i am not a racist, you RACIST.

Most all if not all the posters from the right on here have given you all plenty of policy and regulation reasons why they dont like Obama. So you can stick that racist shit up your ass while your sticking your head back in the sand.