So what do you on the left do

[edthecynic]

pfft,

How about a pool for when the obama and the dems stop blaming just Boosh and take some blame for just standing there doing nothing, except of course for telling us fannie and freddie were in ok shape.

pfft.

How about a pool for when CON$ stop blaming Carter, Clinton, and anyone else they can dream up for Bush's bankrupting the country by wasting money on an unnecessary war of choice in Iraq and giving tax cuts to billionaires who outsource American jobs when there was a $5 trillion national debt to be paid down.

Fannie and Freddie were OK until Bush lowered the loan standards in Dec 2003 by allowing no down payment loans for more than the property was worth to people with bad credit who couldn't make the payments with his American Dream Downpayment Initiative, ADDI.

So in 2008 when Franks, the man over seeing F and F, publically said F and F are fine, months before the collapse of FF that lead to the collapse fo the economy, was just standing there as an innocent bystander?

damn dude. Look at what Franks did, and didn't do. He had the info, he could have warned the whole world, and we may have been able to avoid this years ago.

Take a deep long look, and let me know if you think he may be guitly of treason.

Typical CON$ervative revisionism. It was 2003, not 2008 and in 2003 F and F were OK, Bush hadn't lowered the standards yet.

If you remember, in 2005 Frank and Oxley (R) got a bill that would have reformed F and F through committee and passed in the House that the GOP Senate didn't even bring to a vote because Bush was going to veto it. In 2007 when the Dems took over Frank got the Federal Housing Reform Act and the Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act passed in the House. It was resisted by Bush but it eventually reached Bush' desk in July 2008, too late to save the economy Bush destroyed.

Bush still owns the housing market crash, but do try again.

 

[Charles_Main]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

the same thing you did when you got your butts handed to you in 2006 and 2008.


d'uh!

except without all the birfer racist garbage.

Oh bullshit. You guys were racist about Bush and didn't even know it. After all how many times did we hear lefties tell us Bush was a dumb redneck from Texas.

 

[Zander]

They'll do what they always do when they lose - whine and call everyone else "stupid".

 

[rightwinger]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

the same thing you did when you got your butts handed to you in 2006 and 2008.


d'uh!

except without all the birfer racist garbage.

Oh bullshit. You guys were racist about Bush and didn't even know it. After all how many times did we hear lefties tell us Bush was a dumb redneck from Texas.

That was a wrong thing to say...

Bush was really from Connecticut

 

[Charles_Main]

First they will claim we stole the election, Then they will say they lost because Americans are to stupid. Then they will become obstructionist and pretend they never bitched about the Republicans doing the same.

 

[Liability]

Check the voting system because it must be fucked up still.

Proving yet again that truthmattersnotatalltoher.

These stupid libbies cannot fathom that the majority of Americans don't care for the retarded "polisuhs" of the President and his liberoidal Democratic controlled Congress.

The vermin is getting voted OUT of the majority -- at least in the House -- precisely BECAUSE the American people SEE what truthdoesntmattertoheratall cannot grasp.

We are sick to death of you socialist scumbags.

 

[loosecannon]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

I was thinking I should start a suicide line thread to help them cope.

The truth of the matter is that democracy is dead. Our legislative system and esp our two party monopoly no longer function.

No matter who is elected hereafter nothing good will come from it. Both parties are entirely bankrupt and stand for nothing.

FUBAR

As for the tea party, well the GOP can expect the same kind of love from those guys as the dems get from the blue dogs.

 

[loosecannon]

First they will claim we stole the election, Then they will say they lost because Americans are to stupid. Then they will become obstructionist and pretend they never bitched about the Republicans doing the same.

You better hope that is true, because if the dems fall into a minority status in both houses they are quite likely to become obstructionists from hell as the GOP has been for 2 years.

Our legislators are no longer remotely involved in serving us or the nation. As a rule they are more concerned about themselves, their party and destroying one another.

Politics of destruction has unintended consequences. Blowback, downsides.

And neither party has more than 20% public support.

You might be surprised to discover that we the people, the non partisans, throw all of your bastards out of office by 2016.

 

[Avatar4321]

Are we now admitting that the Tea Party is just an arm of the Republican party?

Nice.

Hey, did you all hear that Halliburton was responsible for the BP spill?

No. not admitting anything. That would be why I differentiated between the two groups.

 

[MaggieMae]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

Wait for the magic to happen!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We don't need Tea Party anything.
That will solve nothing, we will have two years of huffing and puffing and posturing and not a damn thing get done.

 

[Vast LWC]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

the same thing you did when you got your butts handed to you in 2006 and 2008.


d'uh!

except without all the birfer racist garbage.

Oh bullshit. You guys were racist about Bush and didn't even know it. After all how many times did we hear lefties tell us Bush was a dumb redneck from Texas.

Calling someone stupid is not "Racism".

Perhaps if you base it on the fact that they are from a specific region, that might be stereotyping, but is certainly not "racism".

One can move out of a region, or learn to change an accent, one cannot learn to change the color of their skin.

 

[Vast LWC]

Are we now admitting that the Tea Party is just an arm of the Republican party?

Nice.

Hey, did you all hear that Halliburton was responsible for the BP spill?

No. not admitting anything. That would be why I differentiated between the two groups.

No, you lumped them to together with a hash mark. That indicates that they are part of the same group, just two factions of said group.

Of course, if the Tea Partiers are in fact voted into office, once Americans discover that they are nothing more than Conservative Republicans pretending to be Libertarians, (which is completely the case here) they will be quickly voted back out of office.

Personally I think this is the perfect time for a third party that wants to stop all the ideological bullshit and actually get stuff done to step in, and stand an excellent chance of winning.

The "Tea Party" is obviously not that. They are right-wing ideologues.

 

[rightwinger]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

If the Dems were to lose, I imagine they would show the same class and dignity that was shown by the Republicans when they were the minority party.

I would imagine they would model themselves after the Republicans and put what is best for the country above what is best for their party

 

[WillowTree]

Ohh and I forgot to wait for the right to blame everything they do wrong on the left.

You got that Right!

Let's start a pool for when CON$ first claim the budget deficit spending belongs to Obama and not Congress.

Five Trillion dollars in debt since Pelosi took over. Five Trillion

 

[WillowTree]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

If the Dems were to lose, I imagine they would show the same class and dignity that was shown by the Republicans when they were the minority party.

I would imagine they would model themselves after the Republicans and put what is best for the country above what is best for their party

Yes, throwing eggs on President Bush's car was so fucking dignified.

 

[Vast LWC]

Ohh and I forgot to wait for the right to blame everything they do wrong on the left.

You got that Right!

Let's start a pool for when CON$ first claim the budget deficit spending belongs to Obama and not Congress.

Five Trillion dollars in debt since Pelosi took over. Five Trillion

When did Pelosi "Take Over"? I wasn't aware Speaker Pelosi had become dictator of the US in 2006. That's interesting.

Tell me, what binding legislation did Pelosi get passed in the 2006-2008 congress that significantly increased the debt?

As far as I know, Bush vetoed just about everything the house proposed, or caused the same effect through either line-item veto, or promising to veto. So, it seems to me that the debt would have been the same even if the Democrats hadn't taken over the house at all in 2006.

But I imagine all the debt was Clinton's fault after all, right?

 

[Vast LWC]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

If the Dems were to lose, I imagine they would show the same class and dignity that was shown by the Republicans when they were the minority party.

I would imagine they would model themselves after the Republicans and put what is best for the country above what is best for their party

Yes, throwing eggs on President Bush's car was so fucking dignified.

Better than showing up to Bush rallies with automatic weapons.

 

[MaggieMae]

pfft,

How about a pool for when the obama and the dems stop blaming just Boosh and take some blame for just standing there doing nothing, except of course for telling us fannie and freddie were in ok shape.

pfft.

How about a pool for when CON$ stop blaming Carter, Clinton, and anyone else they can dream up for Bush's bankrupting the country by wasting money on an unnecessary war of choice in Iraq and giving tax cuts to billionaires who outsource American jobs when there was a $5 trillion national debt to be paid down.

Fannie and Freddie were OK until Bush lowered the loan standards in Dec 2003 by allowing no down payment loans for more than the property was worth to people with bad credit who couldn't make the payments with his American Dream Downpayment Initiative, ADDI.

So in 2008 when Franks, the man over seeing F and F, publically said F and F are fine, months before the collapse of FF that lead to the collapse fo the economy, was just standing there as an innocent bystander?

damn dude. Look at what Franks did, and didn't do. He had the info, he could have warned the whole world, and we may have been able to avoid this years ago.

Take a deep long look, and let me know if you think he may be guitly of treason.

Treason? Oh please. Even the wildest stretch couldn't justify that. But here are the very simple facts regarding Fannie & Freddie. (You can find much more detailed information in a plethora of articles written by a myriad of people, if you would take the time.)

Prior to 2005, nearly all of the sub-prime loans were bought by Wall Street, NOT Fannie & Freddie. Prior to 2005, the GSEs were not even permitted to purchase non-conforming mortgages!!

After 2005, Fannie & Freddie changed their own rules to start buying these non-conforming mortgages in order to maintain market share and compete with Wall Street for profits.

 

[rightwinger]

If there is a huge Republican/Tea Party wave that takes control of Congress?

If the Dems were to lose, I imagine they would show the same class and dignity that was shown by the Republicans when they were the minority party.

I would imagine they would model themselves after the Republicans and put what is best for the country above what is best for their party

Yes, throwing eggs on President Bush's car was so fucking dignified.

That was a shoe