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I hope he continues to "spike the football" all the way until election day. It is not going over very well.....Of course the ass sniffing sycophants will applaud and defend his every utterance. But the rest of the country- especially moderates and independents- see it as desperate and classless.
Yeah, saying I got Osama Bin Laden will hurt him....In opposite world
Well...lets look at it this way....
He championed against waterboarding as it was inhumane.
He championed against GITMO as it was inhumane.
Now, seeing as he has been president for nearly 4 years....I find it IRONIC that he chooses the killing of a man in front of his family without a trial as the thing he wants to brag about and campaign about.
Yeah...I would say it makes him look bad.
If the decision to kill Bin Laden was so easy and obvious, why were half the rightwing nuts on this board second-guessing and criticizing it,
at the time it happened?
Liar.... why do you hate the truth?
As for 2nd guessing it.... why did Osama, eeerrr, I mean Obama wait 16 hrs to say take him out?
Oh yeah, he had to get that memo created that gave him a scapegoat in case it failed.
COURAGE....
LOL got to love the talking points. They let you know who the lemming followers truly are.
my guess is that it took a while because it was a hard decision to make. it wasn't like he was sitting in a chair reading a childrens book after being told our nation was under attack or anything.
as for the scapegoat comment what in the memo do you think provides for a scapegoat?? what exact wording please provide the memo and the exact quote to support your spin. thank you.
Why yes, the old talking point "bush kept us safe after 9/11"
Funny how the right didn't opt for their current mantra "Bush just followed orders, no biggie" as a talking point.
Why yes, the old talking point "bush kept us safe after 9/11"
Funny how the right didn't opt for their current mantra "Bush just followed orders, no biggie" as a talking point.
We had no terrorist attacks here at home after 9/11/01 while Bush was POTUS.
How many have there been since Obama has been in charge?
I think the real question is the President is now allowed to politicizing military victories? You guys were the one bitching and moaning about how wrong it is. And now you want to do it. Dont like your own standards? that's fine. Stop being such hypocrites though.
Here's the deal, for conservatives, getting Osama is an expected job requirement. It isn't going above and beyond the job expectations for an "exceeds expectations" rating on the job review. Liberals have the notion he's a like a clerk who just landed the company's largest client ever. Doing his job is expected.
So you're mad that Obama did the job but find no anger with Bush not doing his required job? Yeah, that makes sense.
Remember how all those cons were ragging on Bush for failing? Yeah, me neither.
Bush no more failed at getting Bin Laden, than Obama succeeded. They used the same intel personnel and the same military personnel.
He could have just as easily been found under Bush, Obama or the next president.
It all had to do with being in the WH at the right time.
Why yes, the old talking point "bush kept us safe after 9/11"
Funny how the right didn't opt for their current mantra "Bush just followed orders, no biggie" as a talking point.
We had no terrorist attacks here at home after 9/11/01 while Bush was POTUS.
How many have there been since Obama has been in charge?
Did Bush keep us safe or did he just follow orders?
Bush no more failed at getting Bin Laden, than Obama succeeded. They used the same intel personnel and the same military personnel.
He could have just as easily been found under Bush, Obama or the next president.
It all had to do with being in the WH at the right time.
And water is wet....
Point is many are rushing to take credit from the President. Give credit where credit is due. But that hurts the whole "being weak on terrorism" talking point. Remember that?
I think the Pro-War crowd is happy with Obama's performance, how could they not be?
That's why the discussion has shifted to the economy.
So you're mad that Obama did the job but find no anger with Bush not doing his required job? Yeah, that makes sense.
Remember how all those cons were ragging on Bush for failing? Yeah, me neither.
Bush no more failed at getting Bin Laden, than Obama succeeded. They used the same intel personnel and the same military personnel.
He could have just as easily been found under Bush, Obama or the next president.
It all had to do with being in the WH at the right time.
yes just like reagan was lucky to be in the WH at the right time when the wall was coming down. LOL It could have happened anytime but he was lucky to be president when it happened and yet for some reason the right stil praises reagan for it.
Here's the deal, for conservatives, getting Osama is an expected job requirement. It isn't going above and beyond the job expectations for an "exceeds expectations" rating on the job review. Liberals have the notion he's a like a clerk who just landed the company's largest client ever. Doing his job is expected.
So you're mad that Obama did the job but find no anger with Bush not doing his required job? Yeah, that makes sense.
Remember how all those cons were ragging on Bush for failing? Yeah, me neither.
What job exactly did Obama do? Give a nod when the process established by Bush's admin finally beared fruit? That was an easy call. Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn.
And water is wet....
Point is many are rushing to take credit from the President. Give credit where credit is due. But that hurts the whole "being weak on terrorism" talking point. Remember that?
I think the Pro-War crowd is happy with Obama's performance, how could they not be?
That's why the discussion has shifted to the economy.
I wouldn't say that they aren't talking about it because they are happy with his performance.
I would actually argue that they are not talking about it because they are not happy with the fact that they cannot use it against him.
Yeah, saying I got Osama Bin Laden will hurt him....In opposite world
Well...lets look at it this way....
He championed against waterboarding as it was inhumane.
He championed against GITMO as it was inhumane.
Now, seeing as he has been president for nearly 4 years....I find it IRONIC that he chooses the killing of a man in front of his family without a trial as the thing he wants to brag about and campaign about.
Yeah...I would say it makes him look bad.
But.... just think how much better he'd have looked if, on the first anniversary of OBL's death, he had chosen to highlight the courage of our armed forces, and thanked SEAL 6 for their daring deed. Then, people would have remembered that he gave the green light... but he'd have looked very Presidential by giving the credit where is should be. And, even better, the right wing would have been hard pressed to disagree.... he could have played this so much better.
So you're mad that Obama did the job but find no anger with Bush not doing his required job? Yeah, that makes sense.
Remember how all those cons were ragging on Bush for failing? Yeah, me neither.
What job exactly did Obama do? Give a nod when the process established by Bush's admin finally beared fruit? That was an easy call. Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn.
so bush gets the credit even though it is no longer his watch but obama can't claim credit even though he was the CiC that made the call??
WOW!
How many times has the right tired to argue that W is no longer president to avoid holding him accountable for the economic mess that he left obama with?? LOL Funny how their position changes based on who they believe they can give the credit or blame to isn't it?
Bush no more failed at getting Bin Laden, than Obama succeeded. They used the same intel personnel and the same military personnel.
He could have just as easily been found under Bush, Obama or the next president.
It all had to do with being in the WH at the right time.
Riiiiiight.
But Obama got him. And Bush didn't. He had the intel, and he didn't use it. Therefore.
That is only if I believe what you're saying - I don't.
listen up civie....
Obama used the same intel personnel and the same military personnel that Bush ised.
I hope this informations doesnt disturb yur masturnbation session of this evening...But Obama is by no means a war hero.
Flicker on.
Well...lets look at it this way....
He championed against waterboarding as it was inhumane.
He championed against GITMO as it was inhumane.
Now, seeing as he has been president for nearly 4 years....I find it IRONIC that he chooses the killing of a man in front of his family without a trial as the thing he wants to brag about and campaign about.
Yeah...I would say it makes him look bad.
But.... just think how much better he'd have looked if, on the first anniversary of OBL's death, he had chosen to highlight the courage of our armed forces, and thanked SEAL 6 for their daring deed. Then, people would have remembered that he gave the green light... but he'd have looked very Presidential by giving the credit where is should be. And, even better, the right wing would have been hard pressed to disagree.... he could have played this so much better.
If he had focused even more on them then you hypopcrites would mhave attacked him for using them as props.
Furthermore, he already thanked them and has continued to do so. however, the right continues to try and argue that obama has not thanked them. Once again reality escapes the grasp of the right as they march head long off that cliff following their talking points like good little lemmings.
As we all know, I usually try to keep the discourse civil around here, but I'm going to have to make an exception.
I have two words for all you assholes that politicized 9/11, the war on terror, the war in Iraq, and whose leader "Spiked the Football" on a fucking AIRCRAFT CARRIER half a decade before "operations in Iraq" were over:
Fuck You.
Seriously. I have no patience for this bullshit. You people can seriously go fuck yourselves on this one.
You chased Bin Laden around for a decade and FAILED.
Obama, while acting as commander in chief, got him, and that just pisses you assholes off to no end, doesn't it?
This utter hypocrisy is just UNBELIEVABLE.
Seriously, out of all the shit you've pulled in the past, this one just takes the cake.
So, in summary:
Stop whining, and STFU already.
Here's the deal, for conservatives, getting Osama is an expected job requirement. It isn't going above and beyond the job expectations for an "exceeds expectations" rating on the job review. Liberals have the notion he's a like a clerk who just landed the company's largest client ever. Doing his job is expected.
So you're mad that Obama did the job but find no anger with Bush not doing his required job? Yeah, that makes sense.
Remember how all those cons were ragging on Bush for failing? Yeah, me neither.
Bush no more failed at getting Bin Laden, than Obama succeeded. They used the same intel personnel and the same military personnel.
He could have just as easily been found under Bush, Obama or the next president.
It all had to do with being in the WH at the right time.
I hope he continues to "spike the football" all the way until election day. It is not going over very well.....Of course the ass sniffing sycophants will applaud and defend his every utterance. But the rest of the country- especially moderates and independents- see it as desperate and classless.
Yeah, saying I got Osama Bin Laden will hurt him....In opposite world
Well...lets look at it this way....
He championed against waterboarding as it was inhumane.
He championed against GITMO as it was inhumane.
Now, seeing as he has been president for nearly 4 years....I find it IRONIC that he chooses the killing of a man in front of his family without a trial as the thing he wants to brag about and campaign about.
Yeah...I would say it makes him look bad.
Obama made a decision with incomplete information, and against some of his staffs' advice. He took a political risk, that might have turned out very badly. That's what leaders do.
Bush no more failed at getting Bin Laden, than Obama succeeded. They used the same intel personnel and the same military personnel.
He could have just as easily been found under Bush, Obama or the next president.
It all had to do with being in the WH at the right time.
And water is wet....
Point is many are rushing to take credit from the President. Give credit where credit is due. But that hurts the whole "being weak on terrorism" talking point. Remember that?
I think the Pro-War crowd is happy with Obama's performance, how could they not be?
That's why the discussion has shifted to the economy.
