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Conservatives claimed that the polls were biased because they over sampled Democrats. However, it appears that Obama received 50.9% of the vote. Over the last 10 polls on RCP, Obama averaged 48.8% and Romney averaged 48.1%. Excluding the undecideds, the polls had Obama at 50.4%.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Thus, it appears the polls had it spot on.
There was an anomoly in the polling data and most conservative pundits drew the wrong conclusion. In general polling 45% of the public sellf-identified as conservative, libs 20% and moderates 35%, while party self-ID went about 35% Dem and 35% GOP, but the poll samples were getting responses from 41% Dems and only 30% GOP.
The pundits guessed that it meant that the sampling was skewed, but the correct assessment from last night is that apparently 22% of conservatives simply would NOT vote for that lying bastard Mittens Romney.
Romney got 82% of the self-identified Conservative vote, better than the 78% McCain got but not as good as the 84% Bush got in 2004.
Bullshit, lol, you just made those numbers up, didnt you?
Look, I have no love for Romney. I wish people had listened to me when I warned them back in January this was huge honking mistake.
But the GOP's problems go a lot deeper than Romney.
Yes, it obviously does, but Romney and how he got the nomination is the epitome of what is wrong in the GOP.
Soc-cons need to make a new party and lock it tight from Wall Street whores and switch-hitting talking heads.
Conservatives claimed that the polls were biased because they over sampled Democrats. However, it appears that Obama received 50.9% of the vote. Over the last 10 polls on RCP, Obama averaged 48.8% and Romney averaged 48.1%. Excluding the undecideds, the polls had Obama at 50.4%.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Thus, it appears the polls had it spot on.
So much for Nate silver being wrong.
Oh ...and Gallup and Rasmussen??? They need to re-evaluate either their bias or their polling techniques.
i plan on reenacting the battle of kursk to get my mind off the crushing defeat.
i recommend reenacting pickett's charge. less tanks, more bayonets.
now that you mention it, i think i'll go with the battle of jutland
Romney got 82% of the self-identified Conservative vote, better than the 78% McCain got but not as good as the 84% Bush got in 2004.
Bullshit, lol, you just made those numbers up, didnt you?
Look, I have no love for Romney. I wish people had listened to me when I warned them back in January this was huge honking mistake.
But the GOP's problems go a lot deeper than Romney.
Yes, it obviously does, but Romney and how he got the nomination is the epitome of what is wrong in the GOP.
Soc-cons need to make a new party and lock it tight from Wall Street whores and switch-hitting talking heads.
Romney is NOT what is wrong with the GOP. Romney is the best they could have done itch your wingnut "base" forcing all of your candidates so far right that they are out of the mainstream of society. It cost you the senate, too, as well as some seats in the house.
You get rid of great men like Dick Lugar and Arlen Spector, calling them RINO's and nominate crazy people like Akin and Mourdock.... Who LOSE.
You need to figure out that the country isn't crazed
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezactly! Some people had to come down from Bullshit Mountain...some still haven't. Some never will.
To be fair, it was probably all some people had to cling on to that last week.
So now the qeustion for the GOP is, why did they lose, and what do they do about it.
as they did 4 years ago......they picked the wrong candidate....
Incidently, I voted for McCain and think we'd be better off with him today. BUt he and ROmney both sank themselves by embracing the Nativists, the religious nutters and the other extremists in their party.
Conservatives claimed that the polls were biased because they over sampled Democrats. However, it appears that Obama received 50.9% of the vote. Over the last 10 polls on RCP, Obama averaged 48.8% and Romney averaged 48.1%. Excluding the undecideds, the polls had Obama at 50.4%.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Thus, it appears the polls had it spot on.
Incidently, I voted for McCain and think we'd be better off with him today. BUt he and ROmney both sank themselves by embracing the Nativists, the religious nutters and the other extremists in their party.
What I wonder is how long it will be before those groups don't control the House and Senate nominating processes. Until that day, they're just digging a deeper hole.
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I agree. I thought the Republican's only chance was to nominate someone like Jeb Bush, but he was just too sane for them!
Conservatives claimed that the polls were biased because they over sampled Democrats. However, it appears that Obama received 50.9% of the vote. Over the last 10 polls on RCP, Obama averaged 48.8% and Romney averaged 48.1%. Excluding the undecideds, the polls had Obama at 50.4%.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Thus, it appears the polls had it spot on.
Conservatives claimed that the polls were biased because they over sampled Democrats. However, it appears that Obama received 50.9% of the vote. Over the last 10 polls on RCP, Obama averaged 48.8% and Romney averaged 48.1%. Excluding the undecideds, the polls had Obama at 50.4%.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Thus, it appears the polls had it spot on.
So much for Nate silver being wrong.
Oh ...and Gallup and Rasmussen??? They need to re-evaluate either their bias or their polling techniques.
Bullshit, lol, you just made those numbers up, didnt you?
Yes, it obviously does, but Romney and how he got the nomination is the epitome of what is wrong in the GOP.
Soc-cons need to make a new party and lock it tight from Wall Street whores and switch-hitting talking heads.
Romney is NOT what is wrong with the GOP. Romney is the best they could have done itch your wingnut "base" forcing all of your candidates so far right that they are out of the mainstream of society. It cost you the senate, too, as well as some seats in the house.
You get rid of great men like Dick Lugar and Arlen Spector, calling them RINO's and nominate crazy people like Akin and Mourdock.... Who LOSE.
You need to figure out that the country isn't crazed
Tea Party hurt Republicans this election. Wish I could listen to Limbaugh today!
Conservatives claimed that the polls were biased because they over sampled Democrats. However, it appears that Obama received 50.9% of the vote. Over the last 10 polls on RCP, Obama averaged 48.8% and Romney averaged 48.1%. Excluding the undecideds, the polls had Obama at 50.4%.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Thus, it appears the polls had it spot on.
So much for Nate silver being wrong.
Oh ...and Gallup and Rasmussen??? They need to re-evaluate either their bias or their polling techniques.
Gallup more than any pollster should be the most embarassed. With Rasmussen you expect the bias; Rasmussen is in the bias business.
But Gallup, with that ludicrous jiggering of their numbers to produce a couple weeks of Romney with a big lead was absolute idiocy. Why or how they managed to go insane at Gallup for a moment - and then at the last minute make a comically obvious lurch back towards the pack - will probably always be a mystery.
Romney is NOT what is wrong with the GOP. Romney is the best they could have done itch your wingnut "base" forcing all of your candidates so far right that they are out of the mainstream of society. It cost you the senate, too, as well as some seats in the house.
You get rid of great men like Dick Lugar and Arlen Spector, calling them RINO's and nominate crazy people like Akin and Mourdock.... Who LOSE.
You need to figure out that the country isn't crazed
Tea Party hurt Republicans this election. Wish I could listen to Limbaugh today!
the tea party hurt the repubs the last election, too... sharron angle, christine o'donnell?? harry reid should have been easy for a decent GOP candidate to pick off in AZ. at some point, though.. the level of kookiness exceeds the tolerance level of even 'conservative' voters.
Tea Party hurt Republicans this election. Wish I could listen to Limbaugh today!
the tea party hurt the repubs the last election, too... sharron angle, christine o'donnell?? harry reid should have been easy for a decent GOP candidate to pick off in AZ. at some point, though.. the level of kookiness exceeds the tolerance level of even 'conservative' voters.
The Tea Party helped in 10. They provided the energy and votes to crush the Dems in the House.
the tea party hurt the repubs the last election, too... sharron angle, christine o'donnell?? harry reid should have been easy for a decent GOP candidate to pick off in AZ. at some point, though.. the level of kookiness exceeds the tolerance level of even 'conservative' voters.
The Tea Party helped in 10. They provided the energy and votes to crush the Dems in the House.
Actually, the Dems made gains in both the House AND the Senate.
Granted..........not by much, but they DID gain more seats this time around. So, how is that "crushing" the Dems?
Its no secret that arithmetic, like science, has a definite "liberal" bias!Conservatives claimed that the polls were biased because they over sampled Democrats. However, it appears that Obama received 50.9% of the vote. Over the last 10 polls on RCP, Obama averaged 48.8% and Romney averaged 48.1%. Excluding the undecideds, the polls had Obama at 50.4%.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Thus, it appears the polls had it spot on.
