So Precisely How Is A Question About Citizenship "Political"?

[Billy_Kinetta]

More of the usual nonsense.

“This untimely, unnecessary, and untested citizenship question will disrupt planning at a critical point, undermine years of painstaking preparation, and increase costs significantly, putting a successful, accurate count at risk,” Gupta, now the president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, said in a statement. “The question is unnecessarily intrusive and will raise concerns in all households – native- and foreign-born, citizen and non-citizen – about the confidentiality of information provided to the government and how government authorities may use that information.”

Idiots. Citizenship status is not confidential.

Commerce Department Decides To Add A Question About Citizenship To 2020 Census | HuffPost

the constitution requires that the census count "people"... not citizens. why? so the southerners could count slaves.

now live with it.

Indeed.

It does not say that citizens cannot be designated in the count, as are race, marital status, number of children in household, etc.

Now live with it.

Everyone, illegal, legal non citizens, and citizens can simply check YES to being citizens.....

Bingo.

That's why I'm beginning to favor National ID.

 

[Care4all]

I think the people that are suppose to be counted in the census, will probably be advised to just say yes, on citizenship...there is no way for the census bureau to check to see if they are lying or not about citizenship....or they will not answer the census..... either way, it gives you nothing of what you CLAIM is the legit reason for adding the question.....unless your GOAL is to harm people and harm states.....with inaccurate counts of persons living within their States.....

basically, cheating.....

 

[Care4all]

The Census Bureau also has a mandate to make certain their person count is as accurate as possible and before making any changes to it, tested in the market place with analysis to determine such....

 

[BlackSand]

I think the people that are suppose to be counted in the census, will probably be advised to just say yes, on citizenship...there is no way for the census bureau to check to see if they are lying or not about citizenship....or they will not answer the census..... either way, it gives you nothing of what you CLAIM is the legit reason for adding the question.....unless your GOAL is to harm people and harm states.....with inaccurate counts of persons living within their States.....

basically, cheating.....

How is any of it cheating ... Cheating to do what ...

A person is either here legally or they aren't ... They can answer the question honestly or not.
If you are suggesting that illegal immigrants will cheat and answer dishonestly ... Well, it won't be the first time they have attempted to cheat ...

Do you support them cheating ... Do you want to help them cheat?

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[RetiredGySgt]

ok, I'm still researching the 14th and censuses.... just found this....

Section 2 states that representation to Congress must be determined based on the whole population. In other words, both white and African American had to be counted equally. Prior to this, African American populations were undercounted when apportioning representation. This section also stipulated that all males 21 years or older were guaranteed the right to vote.

Were African American slaves, considered citizens, even though they had no rights as citizens? Why were they counted in the censuses as 3/4's of a person, if they had no rights to vote or for anything?

Are you really this stupid? Before the 13th 14th and I believe 15th amendment blacks slaves and x slaves were not citizens and in the early days the South forced the North to allow representation of them at 3/5ths a person to boost their numbers. After the amendments the WERE CITIZENS. Did you not take history in school. With the 14th blacks were citizens and unless denied the vote some how were counted as a full person..

 

[BlackSand]

The Census Bureau also has a mandate to make certain their person count is as accurate as possible and before making any changes to it, tested in the market place with analysis to determine such....

Are you suggesting we should allow foreign agents to influence our election process ...
And that Congress should not be concerned with actual matters of State when conducting the Census?

Do you think the Census was simply intended to be a means by which to help determine the appropriate amount of government pork to distribute?

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[RetiredGySgt]

The Census Bureau also has a mandate to make certain their person count is as accurate as possible and before making any changes to it, tested in the market place with analysis to determine such....

Are you suggesting we should allow foreign agents to influence our election process ...
And that Congress should not be concerned with actual matters of State when conducting the Census?

Do you think the Census was simply intended to be a means by which to help determine the appropriate amount of government pork to distribute?

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She got handed her ass with her own quote and is making shit up now.

 

[BlackSand]

She got handed her ass with her own quote and is making shit up now.

... They lost that argument when they tried to suggest playing by the rules was cheating ...
And that legal US Citizenship was equivalent to a participation trophy at a t-ball game.

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[otto105]

The US Constitution requires that ALL people be counted.

Where are the strict constitutionalists on this subject?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The US Constitution requires that ALL people be counted.

Where are the strict constitutionalists on this subject?

All will be counted if they answer the census. There is NOTHING that precludes the question in fact the 14 mandates it to ensure proper Representation.