Discussion in 'Healthcare/Insurance/Govt Healthcare' started by Mr.Fitnah, Sep 9, 2009.
Where are the Dr's going to come from to give care to 40 million new insured people?
Outsource them from India?....
"Hello, can you tell me where you are having the pain sir?"
"Yes, it's in my right leg."
"Have you rebooted your leg yet, sir?"
"Yes sir. Please remove your shoe and put it back on. Do you still feel the pain?"
Funny you should ask that? When Mass. did about the same thing--requireing everyone to obtain their own medical insurance--there was a massive shortage of doctors. So patients with medical insurance waiting weeks to get in to see a doctore--& guess what some got so tired of waiting they hit the much more expensive hospital emergency room. Now Mass. is in huge trouble with their debt.
The point is--we all know that medical insurance reform is necessary--but they need to get it RIGHT. I don't believe that this bill will be self-sustaining or as Obama stated won't increase our deficit a "dime." That is B.S.
That wont happen, Obama is to big to fail.
I have a problem here. I don't have a problem with some of the arguments against the current planto reform health care. What bothers me is that so many who are against this reform tell us that everyone gets treatment if they are sick anyway, because they can't be denied access. And we also here the argument that out of the 40 plus million uninsured, there are actually only a few million who are truly unable to get some kind of coverage. In no uncertain terms, you argue that most people already are covered in some way, even if it is just going to the emergency room.
So why all of a sudden is there a concern of having 40 million newly insured people if we're already treating them and giving them access to the healthcare they need? I mean which one is it? Will reform only mean providing healthcare for a few million more or will it mean providing healthcare for an additional 40 plus million? If you are going to tell us it is the ladder, then you've been dishonest from the get go.
Now, I will admit that providing healthcare to an additional 40 to 50 million could cause problems, especially with respect to the number of healthcare providers available. but if this is your argument, then certainly you must realize that there are an awful lot of people who are going without adequate healthcare, and therefore we need to address this problem in some way.
It is the people pushing for reform that cite these outrageous numbers .
We are expected to believe the end result of more demand on limited resources is somehow going to drive down costs.
We are also expected to believe illegals wont get insurance , but the heller amendment was shot down.
I think the 40 million or what ever the popular number is today is not always the same 40 million, people change jobs and may go without in the interim and are counted wrongly.
You have highlighted one of the problems in believing there is a problem that needs fixing or is this is nothing more that a plan to siphon more money out of the private sector.
Obama's health plan:
I know, I'm in a Lol catz mood again.
That's a damn good question ! Let's get some white doctors from the fallen Mpyre's.
" The best in the world !!! "
English doctors amputate wrong legs, testicles and cut out healthy kidneys - Pravda.Ru
Doctor Who Cut Off Wrong Leg Is Defended by Colleagues - The New York Times
Since I expect some chin music from the Flag Wavers concerning Pravda.........
Medical errors kill almost 100000 Americans a year
White doctors make mistakes, too.
In fact, many times when you go in for surgery now the doctors will use permanent marker on you to make sure they operate on the proper side of the body.
But keep pretending only brown skinned docs make mistakes.
Of course it will, as I have said all along.
They are going to pass this, even if it's proven that 100% of Americans are against it. Even if it means getting booted out come 2010. They don't care.
Partly because they have this belief that the ivory tower ruling class knows better than the serfs what is good for the serfs, but mostly because they are all-in, completely invested in this President doing well or being perceived as such. And the truth is, they need NO GOP support nor a single GOP vote to pass anything they wish. And they know that, despite their protestations to the contrary.
So yeah, it passes. Oh and then doesn't go into effect for over a year, and the most egregious parts of it don't go into effect for another two years after that.
But we need it NOW.... It's a CRISIS, an EMERGENCY.....
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