‘So Much Harm to Patients’: British Doctors Describe NHS as ‘Worse Than Communist Chi

[ScienceRocks]

‘So Much Harm to Patients’: British Doctors Describe NHS as ‘Worse Than Communist China’

Jul. 12, 2013 3:32pm Erica Ritz

Proponents of President Obama’s “Affordable Care Act” often suggest skeptics look across the Atlantic to the United Kingdom as an example of what can be made better with the American health care system.

But doctors in the United Kingdom have about had it, it seems, calling their own system “worse than Communist China.”

A recent report in the U.K. Telegraph chronicles the conclusions of the British Medical Association’s annual conference, where doctors loudly lamented the undue power of abusive managers and bureaucrats, who seem to have as much or more power in hospitals than the actual doctors.

“The result is the perfect toxic professional working environment for this explosive mixture to generate disasters such as Mid Staffordshire which did so much harm to patients,” said Dr. Peter Holden, a member of the BMA’s GP negotiating committee.

“Not even in Communist China did they have managers overruling doctors in the operation of hospitals and health services,” he added.

?So Much Harm to Patients?: British Doctors Describe NHS as ?Worse Than Communist China? | TheBlaze.com

 

[Vox]

well, it is well known truth about the socialized medicine that it does not provide everything for everybody, bu something for some.

however, the same is true in our system - "British Medical Association’s annual conference, where doctors loudly lamented the undue power of abusive managers and bureaucrats, who seem to have as much or more power in hospitals than the actual doctors."

BOTH are ineffective and abusive.

and managed by corruption

 

[Norman]

I think the problem in socialized systems is no competition. If you get crap doctor, though luck! And of course it kind of pays to be as sucky as possible for the bureaucrats because that means they get more money as opposed to losing it. It's a backwards system.

That being said, employee insurance is not much better. But at least you have a choice in what insurace to buy. And the providers still compete for quality, not who can do the worst job for most money.

Of course there is lots of ground in between. I would not call many european systems a lot more "socialist" than USA. The spending numbers are what they are. And after this ObamaCare thing, probably much worse.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Give us a reputable media source, hmmm.

 

[Antares]

Give us a reputable media source, hmmm.

LMAO...says they guy who ONLY quotes the NYT.

'NHS is worse than communist China,' say doctors - Telegraph

You are quite the ass Jake.

 

[ScienceRocks]

There needs to be lots of competition.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Give us a reputable media source, hmmm.

'NHS is worse than communist China,' say doctors - Telegraph.

The poster of the source is suggesting from The Telegraph that British socialized medicine is not as good as "communist China" but tells us not why.

Not enough regulation of NHS, which is what the poster of the source wants for American medicine: more regulation? The profile of the source poster to comprehension is the equivalent of the profile of a sheep to a genius. The poster of the source must be a real statist.

Doctors voted overwhelmingly in favour for a system of regulation, which would mean poor managers could be barred from working. Robert Francis QC, chairman of the public inquiry into the serious care failings at Stafford Hospital, called for a system of regulation, saying that there should be a "proper degree of accountability for senior managers and leaders".

 

[francoHFW]

The Telegraph is a RW rag and those doctors are Tory a-holes. NHS has an 85% approval, ours 35% in 2007. Get used to Pubs underfunding O-Care whenever they get the chance too- FOREVER, dupes- and intelligent people.