So much for the Super Congress "Grand Bargain"

[Modbert]

Debt Panelists Draw Skepticism on Partisanship, Tax Stances - Bloomberg

U.S. House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell announced their appointments to a 12-member committee assigned with finding $1.5 trillion in budget savings, a lineup already drawing skepticism about the chances for a bipartisan debt compromise.

Republican Senators Jon Kyl, Pat Toomey and Rob Portman will work with Senate Democrats Patty Murray, John Kerry and Max Baucus, who were chosen yesterday by Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid. Boehner today picked House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton and Republican Conference head Jeb Hensarling. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi has yet to name her panelists.

The choices from both parties include some “land mines,” increasing the likelihood of deadlock, said Robert Bixby, head of the Concord Coalition, an Arlington, Virginia-based group that advocates for a balanced budget.

Murray, of Washington state, will cause “certain alarm bells to go off” because she heads the Democrats’ campaign to elect senators, Bixby said. Toomey, of Pennsylvania, and Hensarling, of Texas, are committed to not raising taxes. Upton’s panel has taken the lead on investigating President Barack Obama’s agenda, including the new health-care law. And all six Republican appointees have signed a pledge by Americans for Tax Reform against voting to raise taxes.

Once again, it looks like the Republicans will not compromise whatsoever.

 

[Oddball]

Tough shit.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

No compromise - ZERO.. What don't you braindead idiots get about being fucking broke??? Honest to God.. you must be literally insane. We're watching an economic collapse in the making with dire warnings from everywhere and you liberal fucktards sit there with your pinky fingers stuffed up your ass pulling out printed Benjamin's as if that's the answer???!!

 

[G.T.]

horrendous

 

[Two Thumbs]

And no mention of the fact that phuckhole Kerry just called for censoship.

But yeah, lets blame the GOP now, so we can say we said it first and if it works out we can pretend we never blamed them or congrat the dems for over powering those filthy republicans.

How dare they want us to stop wasting money any way!!

 

[Dr.House]

John F'in sKerry?

What a joke...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Super Congress is after 2012 when Democrats and RINOs are run out of town in record numbers

 

[whitehall]

It's a strange way to put it so all you can figure is democrats must have done some polling data on the use of phrases like "grand bargain" and mistakenly thought it was a winner. It was typical of the young radicals aboard the Obama train to find themselvees in the liberal cocktail circut and assume it was real America.

 

[hortysir]

It is a DEBT committee.



NOT a Tax committee.




They are there to figure out ways to lower our debt.
Are you saying that is impossible to do without raising taxes?

What is there to compromise?

 

[Seawytch]

Follow the money. Look at who contributes to these committee members campaigns. Tells me all I need to know. Corporate shills one and all.

 

[McDowell's]

Debt Panelists Draw Skepticism on Partisanship, Tax Stances - Bloomberg

U.S. House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell announced their appointments to a 12-member committee assigned with finding $1.5 trillion in budget savings, a lineup already drawing skepticism about the chances for a bipartisan debt compromise.

Republican Senators Jon Kyl, Pat Toomey and Rob Portman will work with Senate Democrats Patty Murray, John Kerry and Max Baucus, who were chosen yesterday by Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid. Boehner today picked House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton and Republican Conference head Jeb Hensarling. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi has yet to name her panelists.

The choices from both parties include some “land mines,” increasing the likelihood of deadlock, said Robert Bixby, head of the Concord Coalition, an Arlington, Virginia-based group that advocates for a balanced budget.

Murray, of Washington state, will cause “certain alarm bells to go off” because she heads the Democrats’ campaign to elect senators, Bixby said. Toomey, of Pennsylvania, and Hensarling, of Texas, are committed to not raising taxes. Upton’s panel has taken the lead on investigating President Barack Obama’s agenda, including the new health-care law. And all six Republican appointees have signed a pledge by Americans for Tax Reform against voting to raise taxes.

Once again, it looks like the Republicans will not compromise whatsoever.

How were they supposed to compromise on appointments to the super congress, select Democrats?

 

[Avorysuds]

A hate thread, shocking...

We're broke, we have been downgraded... Lets tax and spend more... LOL!

 

[del]

Follow the money. Look at who contributes to these committee members campaigns. Tells me all I need to know. Corporate shills one and all.

yeah, i never liked kerry much myself

 

[eflatminor]

Once again, it looks like the Republicans will not compromise whatsoever.

What kind of compromise are you looking for. Our debt is equal to $130,000 per taxpayer and the central planners want to add $10 trillion more over the next decade. That should get us to around $200,000 owed per taxpayer. Will you pay your share or stick it to those yet to be born?

Do you want even more spending? That's insane. More taxes? You think a tax hike is during a severe recession is going to INCREASE revenues to the federal government? It doesn't work that way. Now, if you're talking about tax reform, well that's fine, but no changes to the tax code can pay off this debt. ONLY massive reductions in spending now can ensure we don't add to the existing debt. Then we can tackle the debt we already have.

Geez people, this is economics 101!

 

[hippie2049]

The republicans proposed the Super Congress because they'll band together and they know they can get just one democrat for the simple majority and hence they'll get their way.

I am betting the corporate shill Max Baucus will vote with the Republicans.

 

[Full-Auto]

Debt Panelists Draw Skepticism on Partisanship, Tax Stances - Bloomberg

U.S. House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell announced their appointments to a 12-member committee assigned with finding $1.5 trillion in budget savings, a lineup already drawing skepticism about the chances for a bipartisan debt compromise.

Republican Senators Jon Kyl, Pat Toomey and Rob Portman will work with Senate Democrats Patty Murray, John Kerry and Max Baucus, who were chosen yesterday by Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid. Boehner today picked House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton and Republican Conference head Jeb Hensarling. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi has yet to name her panelists.

The choices from both parties include some “land mines,” increasing the likelihood of deadlock, said Robert Bixby, head of the Concord Coalition, an Arlington, Virginia-based group that advocates for a balanced budget.

Murray, of Washington state, will cause “certain alarm bells to go off” because she heads the Democrats’ campaign to elect senators, Bixby said. Toomey, of Pennsylvania, and Hensarling, of Texas, are committed to not raising taxes. Upton’s panel has taken the lead on investigating President Barack Obama’s agenda, including the new health-care law. And all six Republican appointees have signed a pledge by Americans for Tax Reform against voting to raise taxes.

Once again, it looks like the Republicans will not compromise whatsoever.

Kerry, Murray And the bribe taker. That looks like compromise alright.

 

[spectrumc01]

The government doesn't have revenue problem, and it doesn't have a spending problem. What it does have is a waist line problem. Government needs to reduce the size of it's footprint, by becoming smaller in number. The government needs to lay off 1/2 of it's work force and not ever call them back. We need to reduce the amount of money spent on government employees i.e salaries, and benefits.

The Tea Party talks about not raising taxes, and cutting programs. The democrats talk about raising taxes on the rich and closing tax loopholes. The Republicans talk about not doing anything until they are in control of the government. No one has mentioned laying off government employees and closing whole departments. Until this is done the arguements floating around are just fluff.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Deadlock would be good, then the automatic cuts kick in and they take a big fat long overdue bite out of defense.

 

[hortysir]

Deadlock would be good, then the automatic cuts kick in and they take a big fat long overdue bite out of defense.

I'd be fine with that along with all the other triggers.


Chances are, by then, some stuffed suit will have introduced and passed some bullshit bill that would either minimize, delay, or flat-out block the trigger.

If the triggers do manage to happen maybe it'd be a splash of cold water to shock them into actually doing something.







I can dream can't I?

 

[8537]

What a pathetic set of picks - on both sides. Virtually no chance of finding a compromise.

It's astounding that both sides couldn't agree to appoint some Gang of Six members - or simply adopt Simpson-Bowles. We might as well set up the triggers now; And those triggers will be meaningless. Congress has a full calendar year to change their mind about them.

It would make much more sense to allow the Dems to chose 5 dems and a Republican and vice-versa.