So let me get this pipeline shit straight

[The T]

Obama has basically no control over the price of gas. Bush didnt, Clinton didnt, Reagan didnt, My mother doesnt, Nor do you.

One might be able to affect a couple cents here or there but the world market controls said oil. All Oil goes to the world markets, Unless you want government to nationalize it and take over.

If you increase the supply.....
If it is less expensive to transport.....
If you don't have to pay foreign security, tarriffs, etc....

But don't let reason stand in your way.

Obama has taken us down a few more notches toward a third-world despot nation with himself at the helm...just like his pal Chavez.

 

[The T]

You are incredibly brainwashed Fox/Rush/Pub dupes...

Chicago
President Obama announced Wednesday he is putting the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline expansion project on hold, saying a decision can’t be made by the February deadline imposed by Congress. While environmental groups cheered the news, the setback is temporary and the pipeline operator says it will resubmit plans to have the pipeline running in 2014.

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Oil Pipelines Oil and Gas Storage and Transportation Pipeline Transportation Natural Gas Pipelines Diplomacy International Relations Political Policy The decision to deny the company its permit, issued through the US State Department, is considered a political risk by the president with Republican leaders saying that preventing the pipeline – proposed to be the largest of its kind in North American – is harmful to the national interest by limiting energy security and preventing job creation.

The Obama administration was first expected to rule on the permit, sought by operator TransCanada of Alberta, Canada, by late December. However, the administration sought a one-year extension, saying a more thorough environmental assessment was needed, including further exploration of alternate routes.

Republicans in Congress, in return for their support for an extension of the payroll tax holiday, forced the new Feb. 21 deadline, a date that Mr. Obama on Wednesday called “rushed and arbitrary.”

What the Keystone XL pipeline would mean for the US

His statement stressed the decision was not a ruling on the merits of the pipeline, but on the action of Congress, which he said, “prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people.”

“I’m disappointed that Republicans in Congress forced this decision, but it does not change my administration’s commitment to American-made energy that creates jobs and reduces our dependence on oil,” he said.

Obama puts Keystone pipeline on hold, decries 'rushed and arbitrary' deadline - CSMonitor.com

Yes, we got that shit. he's putting politics over the needs of the Countrty.

Party/ Ideology over this country he thinks has wronged the rest of the world.

He has to take us down as much as he can before the people demand his removal in November.

 

[WillowTree]

Obama says no pipeline because.....

1. He wants to get oil from unstable nations
2. He wants to protect a few thousand lizards who apparently wouldn't understand how to crawl under or over a fucking pipe.
3. He likes gasoline prices at 3 dollars compared to 1.83 when he took office.
4. Apparently some deer are incapable of living on one side of the pipe over the other.
5. We haven't lost enough to China yet.
6. He doesn't want the states involved to make the extra revenue.
7. 20k + jobs is just a laughing stock
8. Wants to save a few sand dunes in Nebraska.
9. Says the gop gave him too short a deadline despite this being in the works and studied for years.
10. God I really despise Obama.

Ps. We have 10's of thousands of miles of pipelines currently in use in this country without major incident. There really is NO EXCUSE for this kind of ineptness.

http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

Why are yoiu such a lying sack of liquid shit? OR are you just incredibly stupid? Both?

Here is THE TRUTH about the status of the pipeline.

In the middle class tax relief extension bill that the president signed the republicans attached a rider that forced Obama to make a decision on the pipeline within 60 days. Sounds reasonable right? Wrong! The republican Governor of Nebraska among others rejected the proposed route of the Keystone pipeline. That forced the stakeholders to design a new and more acceptable route design of the pipeline. This is nothing new. The problem is that there is NOTHING to agree or disagree to yet because the new route has not been proposed. The president and Clinton, who by the way is involved because international treaties are involved, have not said that there will be no pipeline. They just stated the obvious that the initial route design had been rejected, which was already comon knowledge, and they were waiting for the new design and the reports neccessary to approve or dissaprove of the proposal.

You may now return to your hissy fit... Don't let the truth slow you down.

the fact is dipshit, that pipeline issue has been studied for three years. it's a million barrels of oil we wouldn't have to import for OPEc.. He put politics over country.. it won't set well.

 

[The T]

Obama says no pipeline because.....

1. He wants to get oil from unstable nations
2. He wants to protect a few thousand lizards who apparently wouldn't understand how to crawl under or over a fucking pipe.
3. He likes gasoline prices at 3 dollars compared to 1.83 when he took office.
4. Apparently some deer are incapable of living on one side of the pipe over the other.
5. We haven't lost enough to China yet.
6. He doesn't want the states involved to make the extra revenue.
7. 20k + jobs is just a laughing stock
8. Wants to save a few sand dunes in Nebraska.
9. Says the gop gave him too short a deadline despite this being in the works and studied for years.
10. God I really despise Obama.

Ps. We have 10's of thousands of miles of pipelines currently in use in this country without major incident. There really is NO EXCUSE for this kind of ineptness.

http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

Why are yoiu such a lying sack of liquid shit? OR are you just incredibly stupid? Both?

Here is THE TRUTH about the status of the pipeline.

In the middle class tax relief extension bill that the president signed the republicans attached a rider that forced Obama to make a decision on the pipeline within 60 days. Sounds reasonable right? Wrong! The republican Governor of Nebraska among others rejected the proposed route of the Keystone pipeline. That forced the stakeholders to design a new and more acceptable route design of the pipeline. This is nothing new. The problem is that there is NOTHING to agree or disagree to yet because the new route has not been proposed. The president and Clinton, who by the way is involved because international treaties are involved, have not said that there will be no pipeline. They just stated the obvious that the initial route design had been rejected, which was already comon knowledge, and they were waiting for the new design and the reports neccessary to approve or dissaprove of the proposal.

You may now return to your hissy fit... Don't let the truth slow you down.

the fact is dipshit, that pipeline issue has been studied for three years. it's a million barrels of oil we wouldn't have to import for OPEc.. He put politics over country.. it won't set well.

It will haunt him even to those that voted for him the first time.

I wonder IF they sense betrayal?

 

[HUGGY]

Obama has basically no control over the price of gas. Bush didnt, Clinton didnt, Reagan didnt, My mother doesnt, Nor do you.

One might be able to affect a couple cents here or there but the world market controls said oil. All Oil goes to the world markets, Unless you want government to nationalize it and take over.

If you increase the supply.....
If it is less expensive to transport.....
If you don't have to pay foreign security, tarriffs, etc....

But don't let reason stand in your way.

If you increase the supply to who? This oil is not going to be sold in the U S A. Contrarily to your supply/demand theory the refining of this new oil that will be sold overseas will put more preassure on refining capacity here making domestic supply more scarce and therefore more expensive.

Sure ...less expensive to transport...FOR THE CHINESE!

WE are not buying the oil...WE don't have to pay tarrifs or security for oil that will not be going to end up in our automobiles.

"But don't let reason stand in your way"

 

[JakeStarkey]

Obama says no pipeline because.....

1. He wants to get oil from unstable nations
2. He wants to protect a few thousand lizards who apparently wouldn't understand how to crawl under or over a fucking pipe.
3. He likes gasoline prices at 3 dollars compared to 1.83 when he took office.
4. Apparently some deer are incapable of living on one side of the pipe over the other.
5. We haven't lost enough to China yet.
6. He doesn't want the states involved to make the extra revenue.
7. 20k + jobs is just a laughing stock
8. Wants to save a few sand dunes in Nebraska.
9. Says the gop gave him too short a deadline despite this being in the works and studied for years.
10. God I really despise Obama.

Ps. We have 10's of thousands of miles of pipelines currently in use in this country without major incident. There really is NO EXCUSE for this kind of ineptness.

http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

Good points, but you missed the one where the Republican governor of Nebraska who said "not in my state" plus several of the state Republican legislators. They are rightfully afraid of the problem of fracting.

 

[francoHFW]

Unbelievable how duped and oblivious the dittohead/Foxbots are....need a 2x4 to the back of the head...LOL!

 

[logical4u]

One solution to all this mess is that we move away from traditional energy like oil and move to more alternative source of energy like solar, wind, and geothermal. Beside from the technical, technological barrier, however there was that Solyndar scandal. Is government loans and subsidies to alternative energy producers inviting new corruptions? Are we all doomed?

Yes, we're all goin' die.

 

[HUGGY]

Obama says no pipeline because.....

1. He wants to get oil from unstable nations
2. He wants to protect a few thousand lizards who apparently wouldn't understand how to crawl under or over a fucking pipe.
3. He likes gasoline prices at 3 dollars compared to 1.83 when he took office.
4. Apparently some deer are incapable of living on one side of the pipe over the other.
5. We haven't lost enough to China yet.
6. He doesn't want the states involved to make the extra revenue.
7. 20k + jobs is just a laughing stock
8. Wants to save a few sand dunes in Nebraska.
9. Says the gop gave him too short a deadline despite this being in the works and studied for years.
10. God I really despise Obama.

Ps. We have 10's of thousands of miles of pipelines currently in use in this country without major incident. There really is NO EXCUSE for this kind of ineptness.

http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

Why are yoiu such a lying sack of liquid shit? OR are you just incredibly stupid? Both?

Here is THE TRUTH about the status of the pipeline.

In the middle class tax relief extension bill that the president signed the republicans attached a rider that forced Obama to make a decision on the pipeline within 60 days. Sounds reasonable right? Wrong! The republican Governor of Nebraska among others rejected the proposed route of the Keystone pipeline. That forced the stakeholders to design a new and more acceptable route design of the pipeline. This is nothing new. The problem is that there is NOTHING to agree or disagree to yet because the new route has not been proposed. The president and Clinton, who by the way is involved because international treaties are involved, have not said that there will be no pipeline. They just stated the obvious that the initial route design had been rejected, which was already comon knowledge, and they were waiting for the new design and the reports neccessary to approve or dissaprove of the proposal.

You may now return to your hissy fit... Don't let the truth slow you down.

the fact is dipshit, that pipeline issue has been studied for three years. it's a million barrels of oil we wouldn't have to import for OPEc.. He put politics over country.. it won't set well.

Dipshit? Do I ever call you an ignorant lying ****? Try and be more civil. AND...Try and keep up Willow. Yes..THE OLD PROPOSED PIPELINE ROUTE HAS BEEN STUDIED. The new one has not...Why???...because it has not been designed yet.

The president put intelligent response to a non event. Anyway if you are so buthurt over this pipeline delay why not shoot a memo to the republican governor of Nebraska. He is the one that said no to the first proposed route.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Obama says no pipeline because.....

1. He wants to get oil from unstable nations
2. He wants to protect a few thousand lizards who apparently wouldn't understand how to crawl under or over a fucking pipe.
3. He likes gasoline prices at 3 dollars compared to 1.83 when he took office.
4. Apparently some deer are incapable of living on one side of the pipe over the other.
5. We haven't lost enough to China yet.
6. He doesn't want the states involved to make the extra revenue.
7. 20k + jobs is just a laughing stock
8. Wants to save a few sand dunes in Nebraska.
9. Says the gop gave him too short a deadline despite this being in the works and studied for years.
10. God I really despise Obama.

Ps. We have 10's of thousands of miles of pipelines currently in use in this country without major incident. There really is NO EXCUSE for this kind of ineptness.

http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

Why are yoiu such a lying sack of liquid shit? OR are you just incredibly stupid? Both?

Here is THE TRUTH about the status of the pipeline.

In the middle class tax relief extension bill that the president signed the republicans attached a rider that forced Obama to make a decision on the pipeline within 60 days. Sounds reasonable right? Wrong! The republican Governor of Nebraska among others rejected the proposed route of the Keystone pipeline. That forced the stakeholders to design a new and more acceptable route design of the pipeline. This is nothing new. The problem is that there is NOTHING to agree or disagree to yet because the new route has not been proposed. The president and Clinton, who by the way is involved because international treaties are involved, have not said that there will be no pipeline. They just stated the obvious that the initial route design had been rejected, which was already comon knowledge, and they were waiting for the new design and the reports neccessary to approve or dissaprove of the proposal.

You may now return to your hissy fit... Don't let the truth slow you down.

the fact is dipshit, that pipeline issue has been studied for three years. it's a million barrels of oil we wouldn't have to import for OPEc.. He put politics over country.. it won't set well.

Why is it so hard for pubs/bags to GET IT??

This is NOT our oil.
It would be put up for sale on the world market.
It would not come TO the United States.
It would only go THROUGH the United States.

Not to mention that its a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what we EXPORT every year.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Obama has basically no control over the price of gas. Bush didnt, Clinton didnt, Reagan didnt, My mother doesnt, Nor do you.

One might be able to affect a couple cents here or there but the world market controls said oil. All Oil goes to the world markets, Unless you want government to nationalize it and take over.

If you increase the supply.....
If it is less expensive to transport.....
If you don't have to pay foreign security, tarriffs, etc....

But don't let reason stand in your way.

Obama has taken us down a few more notches toward a third-world despot nation with himself at the helm...just like his pal Chavez.

You rw's need to calm down, eat some fruit or something.

Chicken Little is NOT right.
The sky is NOT falling.

And, this is not our oil.
In point of fact, if we did allow this disaster, we could actually end up paying twice for the resulting oil.

Jeeez.

 

[idb]

Solar, wind and other alternatives take a back seat to the plethora of gas, and OIL available to us.

Those are still expensive and not workable alternatives. Those sources some are trying to force on us no matter they aren't economically viable...

Stick to what you know...we have a couple centuries worth of fossil fuels.

No, "we" don't, regardless of whose numbers you use.

YES we do. The Earth manufactures it...dumbass.

Good one!!!!
I read somewhere that there's oil developing in the ground in the Midwest as we speak.
It should be properly brewed and ready for extraction in about seven years apparently.
Ain't nature wonderful?

In fact, why don't they re-inject plankton and old potato peels into exhausted oilfields so that more can be made and we will never run out.
Why didn't anyone think of that?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Obama says no pipeline because.....

1. He wants to get oil from unstable nations
2. He wants to protect a few thousand lizards who apparently wouldn't understand how to crawl under or over a fucking pipe.
3. He likes gasoline prices at 3 dollars compared to 1.83 when he took office.
4. Apparently some deer are incapable of living on one side of the pipe over the other.
5. We haven't lost enough to China yet.
6. He doesn't want the states involved to make the extra revenue.
7. 20k + jobs is just a laughing stock
8. Wants to save a few sand dunes in Nebraska.
9. Says the gop gave him too short a deadline despite this being in the works and studied for years.
10. God I really despise Obama.

Ps. We have 10's of thousands of miles of pipelines currently in use in this country without major incident. There really is NO EXCUSE for this kind of ineptness.

http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

Good points, but you missed the one where the Republican governor of Nebraska who said "not in my state" plus several of the state Republican legislators. They are rightfully afraid of the problem of fracting.

what does fracking have to do with this oil pipeline?

And to the idiot who thanked you despite the mistake...... Your an idiot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Gramps, look it up. And I misspelled the word, because I am old like you, and I don't see well on occasion. But I read more clearly than you, particularly on this subject. Take it up with governor and his posse, not me.

 

[The T]

No, "we" don't, regardless of whose numbers you use.

YES we do. The Earth manufactures it...dumbass.

Good one!!!!
I read somewhere that there's oil developing in the ground in the Midwest as we speak.
It should be properly brewed and ready for extraction in about seven years apparently.
Ain't nature wonderful?

In fact, why don't they re-inject plankton and old potato peels into exhausted oilfields so that more can be made and we will never run out.
Why didn't anyone think of that?

OIL is hydrocarbons...

The Earth is relplete with CARBON...even YOU.

It ain't just Dino the dinosaur of Flintstone's fame...or plants from that period...

Read:

Oil, is the Earth Running Out or Making More?

 

[tinydancer]

Obama says no pipeline because.....

1. He wants to get oil from unstable nations
2. He wants to protect a few thousand lizards who apparently wouldn't understand how to crawl under or over a fucking pipe.
3. He likes gasoline prices at 3 dollars compared to 1.83 when he took office.
4. Apparently some deer are incapable of living on one side of the pipe over the other.
5. We haven't lost enough to China yet.
6. He doesn't want the states involved to make the extra revenue.
7. 20k + jobs is just a laughing stock
8. Wants to save a few sand dunes in Nebraska.
9. Says the gop gave him too short a deadline despite this being in the works and studied for years.
10. God I really despise Obama.

Ps. We have 10's of thousands of miles of pipelines currently in use in this country without major incident. There really is NO EXCUSE for this kind of ineptness.

http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

Good points, but you missed the one where the Republican governor of Nebraska who said "not in my state" plus several of the state Republican legislators. They are rightfully afraid of the problem of fracting.

We're talking Keystone pipeline. The Nebraska Governor will support the pipeline as long as it doesn't cross the aquifer.

Nebraskans would support TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s planned $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline if it were moved away from a water aquifer, the state’s Republican Governor David Heineman said.

“I’ll stand up for that,” Heineman said today in an interview on “InBusiness with Margaret Brennan” on Bloomberg Television. ‘So will most Nebraskans.’’

The proposed route crosses the Sandhills region of the Ogallala aquifer, which supplies drinking water to 1.5 million people. The 1,661-mile (2,673-kilometer) pipeline would deliver 700,000 barrels a day of crude from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico by crossing Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas.

Nebraska lawmakers began committee hearings today in Lincoln, the state capital, on five bills on the pipeline during a special legislative session called by Heineman. While the governor hasn’t offered his own measure, he said he’d back a project along the route of an existing TransCanada pipeline further east that avoids vulnerable areas of the aquifer.

whoopsies forgot the link:

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...k-new-keystone-xl-pipeline-path-governor-says

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Gramps, look it up. And I misspelled the word, because I am old like you, and I don't see well on occasion. But I read more clearly than you, particularly on this subject. Take it up with governor and his posse, not me.

I wasn't referring to your spelling. Fracking has nothing to do with this issue and that's what I was referring to.

On this subject Nebraskas objections are logistical. Obamas objections are not. I listed a few of his objections in my list and most importantly he has stated its not good for our nation despite the massive revenue and jobs it would provide. Logistics can be worked out, ignorance can't.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Gramps, look it up. And I misspelled the word, because I am old like you, and I don't see well on occasion. But I read more clearly than you, particularly on this subject. Take it up with governor and his posse, not me.

I wasn't referring to your spelling. Fracking has nothing to do with this issue and that's what I was referring to.

On this subject Nebraskas objections are logistical. Obamas objections are not. I listed a few of his objections in my list and most importantly he has stated its not good for our nation despite the massive revenue and jobs it would provide. Logistics can be worked out, ignorance can't.

Ya bests read tinydancer above, pard. You are telling only part of the story, and I suspect you know it.

 

[idb]

Obama has basically no control over the price of gas. Bush didnt, Clinton didnt, Reagan didnt, My mother doesnt, Nor do you.

One might be able to affect a couple cents here or there but the world market controls said oil. All Oil goes to the world markets, Unless you want government to nationalize it and take over.

If you increase the supply.....
If it is less expensive to transport.....
If you don't have to pay foreign security, tarriffs, etc....

But don't let reason stand in your way.

Ummm...won't it just be sold to the highest bidder?

 

[HUGGY]

Gramps, look it up. And I misspelled the word, because I am old like you, and I don't see well on occasion. But I read more clearly than you, particularly on this subject. Take it up with governor and his posse, not me.

I wasn't referring to your spelling. Fracking has nothing to do with this issue and that's what I was referring to.

On this subject Nebraskas objections are logistical. Obamas objections are not. I listed a few of his objections in my list and most importantly he has stated its not good for our nation despite the massive revenue and jobs it would provide. Logistics can be worked out, ignorance can't.

What you don't or won't understand is the "The logistics" AKA the new route design has to be submitted before it can be approved or not.