So, how many leftists will admit socialism failed Venezuela?

[boedicca]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

Oh how silly. Socialism is a totalitarian ideology that always leads to a dictatorship. It's a feature, not a bug.

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By the same token,

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Sad and ineffective imitation is sad and ineffective. But you do get 10 Points for Consistency.

Actually, it's as sad as yours is. If mine is sad on the Right then yours is equally sad on the left. Notice the symbol. Do you know where it came from? It came from a Political Party.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

well....I don't consider myself a "leftist" but I'm sure YOU would....

so...I ADMIT THAT VENEZUELA IS A FAILURE!


which is why I do NOT want SOCIALISM or COMMUNISM!

What I want is affordable healthcare and affordable education.

like NORWAY and DENMARK and FINLAND.....

Would you care to discuss THOSE countries?

 

[boedicca]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

Oh how silly. Socialism is a totalitarian ideology that always leads to a dictatorship. It's a feature, not a bug.

View attachment 265561

By the same token,

View attachment 265571

Sad and ineffective imitation is sad and ineffective. But you do get 10 Points for Consistency.

Actually, it's as sad as yours is. If mine is sad on the Right then yours is equally sad on the left. Notice the symbol. Do you know where it came from? It came from a Political Party.

Nope. Capitalism results in this:

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

View attachment 265572

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

 

[Yarddog]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

FDR had to save capitalism and we have had to bail out capitalism since then..Capitalism is a failure as an economic model..

Look no further than Hong Kong. Would Hong Kong operate better be more profitable under Communism? socialism? It's the free market capitalism that has created wealth there and made it valuable to mainland China.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

Oh how silly. Socialism is a totalitarian ideology that always leads to a dictatorship. It's a feature, not a bug.

View attachment 265561

By the same token,

View attachment 265571

Sad and ineffective imitation is sad and ineffective. But you do get 10 Points for Consistency.

Actually, it's as sad as yours is. If mine is sad on the Right then yours is equally sad on the left. Notice the symbol. Do you know where it came from? It came from a Political Party.

Nope. Capitalism results in this:

View attachment 265573

No, Science did that. It was a mixture of Capitalism and Socialism that economically allowed the science to make it happen. The big change was when you "Conservatives" stopped beheading and hanging the Scientists that said something that didn't agree with your religion. Off with his Head.

 

[dannyboys]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

View attachment 265572

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

FDR had to save capitalism and we have had to bail out capitalism since then..Capitalism is a failure as an economic model..

Look no further than Hong Kong. Would Hong Kong operate better be more profitable under Communism? socialism? It's the free market capitalism that has created wealth there and made it valuable to mainland China.

It was a Social Democratic Country for about 99 years. It was NEVER a Capitalist country. Again, you can't have a Capitalist Government without some strong man rising to the top and crushing every other strong man.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

View attachment 265572

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

 

[boedicca]

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

View attachment 265572

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

And if you allow politicians and thugs to rule instead of Free Markets and Free Individuals, you will end up with Tyranny.

 

[Rustic]

Actually corruption ruined Ven.

When will Cons admit that Venezuela “socialism “ has nothing to do with the democratic socialist ideas we have in America.

Lol
“Democratic socialism”?
The very definition of fucked up...

 

[SAYIT]

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

View attachment 265572

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

You just spew without ever thinking. Capitalism, like socialism, is not a form of governance and does not rule.

 

[edward37]

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

View attachment 265572

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

And if you allow politicians and thugs to rule instead of Free Markets and Free Individuals, you will end up with Tyranny.

Sounds like Trump and McConnell

 

[boedicca]

Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?

View attachment 265572

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

And if you allow politicians and thugs to rule instead of Free Markets and Free Individuals, you will end up with Tyranny.

Sounds like Trump and McConnell

Actually, it doesn't.

But thanks for playing!

 

[edward37]

Let's see.

Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

And if you allow politicians and thugs to rule instead of Free Markets and Free Individuals, you will end up with Tyranny.

Sounds like Trump and McConnell

Actually, it doesn't.

But thanks for playing!

Oh?? Trump doesn't think he's above the law?

 

[Theowl32]

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

And if you allow politicians and thugs to rule instead of Free Markets and Free Individuals, you will end up with Tyranny.

Sounds like Trump and McConnell

Actually, it doesn't.

But thanks for playing!

Oh?? Trump doesn't think he's above the law?

Huh, this still.

 

[Theowl32]

Not one of them can. Like I predicted.

 

[boedicca]

'Capitalism' is just another way of saying 'social Darwinism'. As in all of nature the strong survive and prosper and the weak don't.
Basic reality on planet earth.
Humans are just another life form.

In your own way, you are right. If you allow Capitalism to rule then it does become social darwinism. Until the ONE rises to the top and rules all the rest. One Company, One Boss and everyone works and obeys that one boss. Do you know what you call that type of society for everyone except the one?

And if you allow politicians and thugs to rule instead of Free Markets and Free Individuals, you will end up with Tyranny.

Sounds like Trump and McConnell

Actually, it doesn't.

But thanks for playing!

Oh?? Trump doesn't think he's above the law?

He's far more law-abiding than your God Obabble, bub.

 

[SAYIT]

And if you allow politicians and thugs to rule instead of Free Markets and Free Individuals, you will end up with Tyranny.

Sounds like Trump and McConnell

Do you feel oppressed by the tyranny, Snowflake?

Do you know what the word means?

Do you need another tissue?