Snicker*..IPCC to Withdraw Claim..

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that AGW will cause Himalayan glaciers to melt by 2035.



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The UN agency for “climate change” will withdraw a years-old claim that man-made climate change will destroy the Himalayan glaciers within 25 years — after its highly unscientific method of reaching this conclusion got exposed this week. Instead of conducting actual science themselves, with open and transparent methods, the IPCC apparently just read the claim in an interview and decided to adopt it. Now the original reporter in the interview claims that not only did the IPCC simply lift the claim without any investigation, they didn’t understand it correctly in the first place:

World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown - Times Online

A WARNING that climate change will melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 is likely to be retracted after a series of scientific blunders by the United Nations body that issued it.

Two years ago the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a benchmark report that was claimed to incorporate the latest and most detailed research into the impact of global warming. A central claim was the world's glaciers were melting so fast that those in the Himalayas could vanish by 2035.

In the past few days the scientists behind the warning have admitted that it was based on a news story in the New Scientist, a popular science journal, published eight years before the IPCC's 2007 report.

It has also emerged that the New Scientist report was itself based on a short telephone interview with Syed Hasnain, a little-known Indian scientist then based at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi.
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Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was "speculation" and was not supported by any formal research. If confirmed it would be one of the most serious failures yet seen in climate research. The IPCC was set up precisely to ensure that world leaders had the best possible scientific advice on climate change.

So the farce continues to unravel.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How settled science gets that way

 

[Baruch Menachem]

I have had a feeling that this was the kind of source for most of the "settled science."

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wheels fall off the AGW Bus

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Not totally..... Read into the article and note there is a 3 yard retreat every year.

This is the problem with lazy science reporting, or partisan science. If there is an issue, people concentrate on the fact they have been lied to, rather than the reality involved.

It is better to be honest in the first place, which is the problem I have with most of the warming hysterics.

Also the 'cures' are less into remediation than into redistribution. If they actually want to fix a problem, more power to them. But that is not what I usually see happening.

 

[ozzmdj]

What's new about the enviro-Marxist lie'sWorld misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown - Times Online

 

[Old Rocks]

Now science is a self correcting endevour. When a mistake, or careless claim is recognized, other scientists jump on it. However, when drugged out radio jocks make whingding statements, or an ersazt wearther man lies on his web site, it never gets corrected.
As the years progress, we shall see how accurate this statement is.

U.N. panel re-examines Himalayan glacier thaw report - Yahoo! News

The IPCC's 2007 report said: "Glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate."

However, the report also said of the glaciers: "Its total area will likely shrink from the present 500,000 to 100,000 sq km (193,000 to 38,600 sq miles) by the year 2035."

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Now science is a self correcting endevour. When a mistake, or careless claim is recognized, other scientists jump on it. However, when drugged out radio jocks make whingding statements, or an ersazt wearther man lies on his web site, it never gets corrected.
As the years progress, we shall see how accurate this statement is.

U.N. panel re-examines Himalayan glacier thaw report - Yahoo! News

The IPCC's 2007 report said: "Glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate."

However, the report also said of the glaciers: "Its total area will likely shrink from the present 500,000 to 100,000 sq km (193,000 to 38,600 sq miles) by the year 2035."

So are goofy Radio Hosts self correcting. People come here every day to refute Rush. He puts his words up his website for all to read every day.

The problem here was we were getting bogus numbers and science was not self correcting. People who thought the data was skewed, made up, distorted or pulled out of someones' ass (all four seem to be the case here) were called dangerous Luddites.

It has been my major issue. Or one of them. Those who asked questions were told to shut up, and the whole thing still smacks of self serving sanctimony.

This is the "settled" nature of this science. Which is why I distrusted it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Now science is a self correcting endevour. When a mistake, or careless claim is recognized, other scientists jump on it. However, when drugged out radio jocks make whingding statements, or an ersazt wearther man lies on his web site, it never gets corrected.
As the years progress, we shall see how accurate this statement is.

U.N. panel re-examines Himalayan glacier thaw report - Yahoo! News

The IPCC's 2007 report said: "Glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate."

However, the report also said of the glaciers: "Its total area will likely shrink from the present 500,000 to 100,000 sq km (193,000 to 38,600 sq miles) by the year 2035."

Well, except of course if you work at East Angelia, then you destroy the data and leave out data that does not fit your theory -- then destroy that data too

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If the Yankees keep winning the World Series every year, by 2035 they'll have 52 WS Titles.

 

[Oddball]

How settled science gets that way

Round and round she goes....Ya pay yer money, ya take yer chances!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How settled science gets that way

Round and round she goes....Ya pay yer money, ya take yer chances!

And the best part is that's really the guys who run the Climatology "ManMade Global Warming" Department at M.I.T.

I don't know why the real scientists at MIT aren't in open revolt against those bozos.

 

[Old Rocks]

Because all the real scientists at MIT, with the exception of Lindzen, recognize what is happening.

 

[Oddball]

Sure they do.

 

[Old Rocks]

Real information from MIT.

The MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change

Confronting the Climate Challenge
Science and Policy working together


The question is no longer whether global warming is upon us … but how we can rise to its challenge.

MIT’s Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change is a world leader in this effort. Our many activities cohere around one strategy: science and policy have to work together.

Climate change is complex; so, understanding it requires cutting-edge scientific research. Applying that research to moderate the most dangerous effects of climate change requires unprecedented action and cooperation across national boundaries.

Advancing both frontiers – research on natural science and on economic policy – is our unique mission.

 

[Oddball]

Golly...Echo chambers produce echos.

Whodathunkit?

 

[Old Rocks]

Ol' Doodeee..... ignored yet once again the chance to actually gain some knowledge. Who'da thought otherwise?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wheel!

Of!

Climate Change!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Let's give the wheel a spin and see how many glaciers we have left

 

[Old Rocks]

Mindless derision from the mindless.

Yet the glaciers still are melting.

http://assets.panda.org/downloads/glacierspaper.pdf

Since the early 1960s, mountain glaciers worldwide have experienced an estimated net loss of over 4000 cubic
kilometers of water – more than the annual discharge of the Orinoco, Congo, Yangtze and Mississippi
Rivers combined; this loss was more than twice as fast in the 1990s than during previous decades.