Smog Rules Could Cost Industry $90B–and Save $100B on Health Costs

[☭proletarian☭]

The Environmental Protection Agency has announced its proposal to toughen up the standards for smog-causing pollutants, which would replace the standards set during the Bush administration. The Obama administration’s proposal sets a primary standard for ground-level ozone of no more than 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million, to be phased in over two decades. Regions with the worst smog pollution, including much of the Northeast, Southern and Central California and the Chicago and Houston areas, would have more time than other areas to come into compliance [The New York Times]. The previous standard was 0.075 parts per million, set in 2008 despite government scientists’ objection that it was not strict enough. Smog is formed when a stew of nitrogen oxides, volatile organic compounds, carbon monoxide, and methane is baked in sunlight.

Smog Rules Could Cost Industry $90B–and Save $100B on Health Costs | 80beats | Discover Magazine


If the estimates are accurate, this is a fine example of the purpose of such regulation.

 

[Old Rocks]

And thousands of lives, preventing the development of asthma in many children.

 

[uscitizen]

We are #1 on prescribing Asthma drugs.

 

[TheSuaveOne]

The Obama administration’s proposal sets a primary standard for ground-level ozone of no more than 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million, to be phased in over two decades.

If it's truely that important to make this change, why are they phasing it in over 20 years?

-TSO

 

[Oddball]

We are #1 on prescribing Asthma drugs.

We're #1 in prescribing just about all kinds of drugs....So what?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

The Obama administration’s proposal sets a primary standard for ground-level ozone of no more than 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million, to be phased in over two decades.

If it's truely that important to make this change, why are they phasing it in over 20 years?

-TSO

If I had to chance a guess, I'd say it's to give time for
1)development of technology to make it feasible for the automotive industry to produce sufficiently clean verticals

2)the phasing out of older vehicles, lawn mowers, et al

3)the development of solar, wind, geothermal, and nuclear energy to facilitate

4)the phasing out of power plants driven by fossil fuels

It seems they're trying to clean things up without destroying America's ability to produce power and travel....

 

[Oddball]

The Environmental Protection Agency has announced its proposal to toughen up the standards for smog-causing pollutants, which would replace the standards set during the Bush administration. The Obama administration’s proposal sets a primary standard for ground-level ozone of no more than 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million, to be phased in over two decades. Regions with the worst smog pollution, including much of the Northeast, Southern and Central California and the Chicago and Houston areas, would have more time than other areas to come into compliance [The New York Times]. The previous standard was 0.075 parts per million, set in 2008 despite government scientists’ objection that it was not strict enough. Smog is formed when a stew of nitrogen oxides, volatile organic compounds, carbon monoxide, and methane is baked in sunlight.

Smog Rules Could Cost Industry $90B–and Save $100B on Health Costs | 80beats | Discover Magazine


If the estimates are accurate, this is a fine example of the purpose of such regulation.

It's a fine example of federal overreach, as smog is a local problem.

The hacks writing the story also left out the fact that temperature inversion is the key atmospheric element for the forming of smog. But since none of them can control the weather, they failed to mention it.

How conveeeeeenient.

 

[Old Rocks]

We are #1 on prescribing Asthma drugs.

We're #1 in prescribing just about all kinds of drugs....So what?

And about #50 in longevity. Hmmm........

 

[Old Rocks]

The Environmental Protection Agency has announced its proposal to toughen up the standards for smog-causing pollutants, which would replace the standards set during the Bush administration. The Obama administration’s proposal sets a primary standard for ground-level ozone of no more than 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million, to be phased in over two decades. Regions with the worst smog pollution, including much of the Northeast, Southern and Central California and the Chicago and Houston areas, would have more time than other areas to come into compliance [The New York Times]. The previous standard was 0.075 parts per million, set in 2008 despite government scientists’ objection that it was not strict enough. Smog is formed when a stew of nitrogen oxides, volatile organic compounds, carbon monoxide, and methane is baked in sunlight.

Smog Rules Could Cost Industry $90B–and Save $100B on Health Costs | 80beats | Discover Magazine


If the estimates are accurate, this is a fine example of the purpose of such regulation.

It's a fine example of federal overreach, as smog is a local problem.

The hacks writing the story also left out the fact that temperature inversion is the key atmospheric element for the forming of smog. But since none of them can control the weather, they failed to mention it.

How conveeeeeenient.

And this smog stays local? Does not mix and blow over the rest of the Nation?

Ah, Dooodeeee......., you are waxing exceedingly stupid again.

 

[Oddball]

Were you born this idiotic or is it a life's work?

Once the inversion relents, the smog (most of it dust and other localized particulate matter) disperses and is eventually naturally mitigated.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Dude's right. It has nothing to do with human activity

That's why LA doesn't have any more smog than any other city in America.

Oh, wait...

 

[uscitizen]

The Environmental Protection Agency has announced its proposal to toughen up the standards for smog-causing pollutants, which would replace the standards set during the Bush administration. The Obama administration’s proposal sets a primary standard for ground-level ozone of no more than 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million, to be phased in over two decades. Regions with the worst smog pollution, including much of the Northeast, Southern and Central California and the Chicago and Houston areas, would have more time than other areas to come into compliance [The New York Times]. The previous standard was 0.075 parts per million, set in 2008 despite government scientists’ objection that it was not strict enough. Smog is formed when a stew of nitrogen oxides, volatile organic compounds, carbon monoxide, and methane is baked in sunlight.

Smog Rules Could Cost Industry $90B–and Save $100B on Health Costs | 80beats | Discover Magazine


If the estimates are accurate, this is a fine example of the purpose of such regulation.

It's a fine example of federal overreach, as smog is a local problem.

The hacks writing the story also left out the fact that temperature inversion is the key atmospheric element for the forming of smog. But since none of them can control the weather, they failed to mention it.

How conveeeeeenient.

Acid rainfall is a local issue?
Then why are the trees dying on top of the smokies?

 

[Old Rocks]

Were you born this idiotic or is it a life's work?

Once the inversion relents, the smog (most of it dust and other localized particulate matter) disperses and is eventually naturally mitigated.

Disperses into the rest of the atmosphere, degrading the air quality downwind from the inversion.

Are you so stupid as to think that the material and chemicals in the air just disappear? For that is the way that your post reads.

Well, yes, it is naturally mitaged. And the acid rain mitagation kill the life in lakes and forests.

Ol' Dooodeee..... does love his pollution.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

OR, you're talking t an idiot who thinks inversion causes smog, rather than simply trapping it in one place.

 

[Oddball]

Dude's right. It has nothing to do with human activity

That's why LA doesn't have any more smog than any other city in America.

Oh, wait...

I didn't say that, asswipe.

And L.A has some of the most intense temperature inversions in the nation. Other places with the atmospheric phenomenon include scores of little mountain towns, which also get big time smog clouds in the winter months.