Smart Democrats Should Be Worried

From the article:

Second, Democrats know that Ryan has Reaganesque qualities that make him appealing to independent, middle-class voters. Take the cover story on Ryan that the Isthmus, a radically left-wing Madison, Wis. newspaper, ran on him in 2009. “Ryan, with his sunny disposition and choirboy looks, projects compassion and forcefully proclaims dedication to his district,” the story reported. “And he’s proved he is not unyieldingly pro-corporate, as when he recently joined in condemnation of AIG ‘retention’ bonuses.”

Third, Ryan’s ideas aren’t that novel or scary. The idea of “premium support” for Medicare, which would change the program’s one-size-fits-all policy to a private-insurance model with public options, was endorsed by a bipartisan commission appointed by Bill Clinton back in the 1990s. Late last year, Ryan announced a new version of his proposal with a new partner signing on: Democratic senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, who first achieved political prominence as an advocate for seniors.

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Wow, Ryan gets the nod on some things from a left wing rag because he isn't a purist and he works with the other side as evidenced by Wyden's intially signing on.

Like I said...the article is somewhat moot.

There are no smart democrats (on this board anyway).

Your not to smert either.

Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)


Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)

Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)

Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)

Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)


Congressman Ryan supports the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, federal bailouts, increased federal involvement in education, unconstitutional and undeclared wars, Medicare Part D (a multi trillion dollar unfunded liability), stimulus spending, and foreign aid.


According to Michelle Malkin in 2009, “[Paul Ryan] gave one of the most hysterical speeches in the rush to pass TARP last fall; voted for the auto bailout; and voted with the Barney Frank-Nancy Pelosi AIG bonus-bashing stampede. Milwaukee blogger Nick Schweitzer wrote: ‘He ought to be apologizing for his previous votes, not pretending he was being responsible the entire time, but I don’t see one bit of regret for what he did previously. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to let him get away with it’.”




Source: Republican Liberty Caucus of Wisconsin

LETS COMPARE PLANS..

Oh wait you would have to be intelligent enough to create one......

Maybe next year guys. I am sure some third graders could help. Try the students at Obama elementary...Wait. It was shut down.... Damn you guys just suck.....
 
Despite your claims no one is really worried about the choice of ryan as VP.

However, you seem to be trying to tell yourself you might win now. It seems you spend a lot of time trying to convince yourself the reps will not lose. how did that work for you last presidential election?

If you are not worried, then you just do not understand our Elections.

They Turn on Independents, Independents are overwhelmingly Fiscal Conservatives. Ryan will be appealing to them.

It's still anybody's Race to win, But Ryan is clearly going to Help Romney with Independents. If you can't admit that to yourself then you are either Scared, or just to blinded by your Partisan Hackery to see it.


I pick option b.

ryan is no fiscal conservative.
 
No, I didn't mean your bullshit pile of Democrat talking points. Everything you claimed is either not true or it didn't have the effect the messiah's faithful claim it has, or it screwed just as many or more people than it helped. Many of your examples do in fact refer to parasites and leaches.


As usual your ignorance and dogma prevent you from knowing the truth.

Only someone who worships the opulent and hates working Americans could hate the Kennedy family

Ted Kennedy helped MILLIONS. Eunice Kennedy Shriver helped MILLIONS.

Ted Kennedy helped leaches and parasites destroy America. He was the enemy of every hard working productive American.

Leaches and parasites?

Do you mean seniors who get Meals on Wheels?

Do you mean women who want the same classroom and athletic opportunities?

Do you mean Americans with disabilities who now have real opportunity to be a contributing member of society?

Do you mean women who now receive the best quality cancer-screening tests?

Do you mean workers who no longer lose their jobs when employees take unpaid leave for up to twelve weeks to care for a new baby (by birth, adoption, or foster care), an ill family member, or when a serious health condition makes that employee unable to work?

Do you mean American workers who now have their health insurance protected when they lose or change jobs?

Do you mean American workers who now have a law that protects the security of their health records and their privacy as patients?

Do you mean all American citizens who have enhanced security of the nation’s drinking water, food and drug supply and biological agents?

Do you mean all American citizens who now have enhanced border security that requires all travel documents be tamper resistant and machine readable, and also extends the communication between law enforcement agencies?

Do you means senior citizens who now have Medicare prescription drug coverage?

Do you mean children who now have more intense security and Amber Alerts along the nation’s roadways?

Do you mean American workers who can now get COBRA to continue their group health insurance?

Do you mean all American citizens who benefit from funding for new research in early detection of cancer, including access to clinical trials and information and the strengthening of research and cancer prevention and detection?

Yea, what a bunch of fucking leaches and parasites!!!
 
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That's exactly right, turd. Ryan's budge rejects socialism and begins to return this nation to the principles it was founded on: laizzes faire capitalism and private property. It's time for the useless ticks riding in the wagon to get out and start pulling the wagon. Ryan's budget is exactly what this country needs.


"His (Ryan's Budget) blueprint would greatly shrink the government, largely undoing the social safety net by shifting more costs onto individuals and essentially converting Medicare into a capped voucher program. It would also alter the progressive income tax system, which, like the safety net, was built through the 20th century under Republican as well as Democratic presidents."

"On Saturday, Mr. Romney’s campaign quickly circulated talking points to supporters distancing him from Mr. Ryan’s budgets, saying Mr. Romney “will be putting together his own plan.”

Link to quotes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/us/politics/ryan-and-his-budget-are-a-gamble-for-romney.html

Can we trust Romney to protect the middle class? I believe Romney is the quintessential plutocrat and actually believes in the failed trickle down economy theory.
 
"The Ryan plan, which Mr. Romney endorsed during the hard-fought race for the Republican presidential nomination, would cut about $6 trillion from projected spending in the first 10 years. But the plan also would cut revenues by $4 trillion, and more over time, by slashing individual and corporate income taxes. The government would not run a surplus for three decades, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — an outcome that would have been heresy to pro-tax-cut but anti-deficit Republicans of the past"

From: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/us/politics/ryan-and-his-budget-are-a-gamble-for-romney.html?_r=1

So what's the Democrat plan to bring the budget into surplus, and how long will it take?

Wait for it . . . .

Wait for it . . . .

Could it possibly be "SOAK THE RICH?"

Yeah, that's been working so well up to now!
 
"The Ryan plan, which Mr. Romney endorsed during the hard-fought race for the Republican presidential nomination, would cut about $6 trillion from projected spending in the first 10 years. But the plan also would cut revenues by $4 trillion, and more over time, by slashing individual and corporate income taxes. The government would not run a surplus for three decades, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — an outcome that would have been heresy to pro-tax-cut but anti-deficit Republicans of the past"

From: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/us/politics/ryan-and-his-budget-are-a-gamble-for-romney.html?_r=1

So what's the Democrat plan to bring the budget into surplus, and how long will it take?

Wait for it . . . .

Wait for it . . . .

Could it possibly be "SOAK THE RICH?"

Yeah, that's been working so well up to now!

Democrats are absolutely convinced that by taxing that extra 70 billion a year it will cover the trillion dollar deficits.


A prime example of dem stupidity........
 
They're gonna sock it to the rich, so they can use more loopholes that democrats have put in the tax code, as well as raise prices on all goods so the middle class with fall farther behind!
 
Reform is reform; Ryan's ideas maybe reform but seem at first look to be radical. Imagine paying into social security for 30 or more years and learning on your 54th birthday the supplemental retirement income you counted on evaporated as did you IRA in October 2008?

That's exactly what will happen if we stay on the course the Democrats have us on. There won't be any money to pay out when the country goes bankrupt.

So what's your plan to avoid national bankruptcy?

We're all dying to hear it.
 
Reform is reform; Ryan's ideas maybe reform but seem at first look to be radical. Imagine paying into social security for 30 or more years and learning on your 54th birthday the supplemental retirement income you counted on evaporated as did you IRA in October 2008?

That's exactly what will happen if we stay on the course the Democrats have us on. There won't be any money to pay out when the country goes bankrupt.

So what's your plan to avoid national bankruptcy?

We're all dying to hear it.

You gotta spend money to keep from going broke! Just ask Joe Biden.
 
Imagine paying into social security for 30 or more years

If I was putting my contributions into the market for 30 or more years, at the low point in 2009, my investments would still fund a benefit several times what I'd receive from the Social Security system.

oh that is why so many people lost their retirement investments during that period?

If they were in a diversified stock portfolio, they only lost if they sold at the bottom.
And 30 years of market contributions, even if you sold at the bottom, would still give you multiples of what your Social Security benefit would give you.

The rest of the story:

America
 

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