Skeptics Still Doubt Moon Landing 40 Years Later

[Toro]

Most consider it a monumental human and technological achievement, but others call it a massive hoax.

Four decades after man first stepped on the moon, skeptics continue to cast doubt on the lunar landing.

Apollo 11 “hoax” theories contend NASA deliberately deceived the public and contend that astronauts never landed on the moon. They say evidence, —including videotape, photographs and rock samples — was manipulated, or even manufactured in a Hollywood-style studio.

Skeptics still doubt moon landing 40 years later - Science - Canoe.ca

I wonder if our local conspiracy theorists also believe the moon landings were a hoax.

 

[random3434]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say yes, yes they do.

 

[Oddball]

I wonder how they can explain away six landings.

 

[random3434]

I wonder how they can explain away six landings.

With youtube videos of course!

 

[Big Black Dog]

My grandmother, up until her death, strongly believed that the moon landings were not real and were just filmed in Hollywood. She thought the whole space program was just plain silly.

 

[eots]

Most consider it a monumental human and technological achievement, but others call it a massive hoax.

Four decades after man first stepped on the moon, skeptics continue to cast doubt on the lunar landing.

Apollo 11 “hoax” theories contend NASA deliberately deceived the public and contend that astronauts never landed on the moon. They say evidence, —including videotape, photographs and rock samples — was manipulated, or even manufactured in a Hollywood-style studio.

Skeptics still doubt moon landing 40 years later - Science - Canoe.ca

I wonder if our local conspiracy theorists also believe the moon landings were a hoax.

the term conspiracy theorist is a straw man...what is the opposite ?..a non-conspiracy theorist ?....what kind of deluded individual would believe there are no conspiracy's in this world ?..anyone who suspects the truth is not told on any given subject could be deemed a conspiracy theorist...it appears their are astronauts involved in the moon landing and NASA that would indeed be considered conspiracy theorist by people such as toto

Capt. Edgar Mitchell, U.S. Navy (ret), BS Industrial Management, BS Aeronautical Engineering, Doctor of Science, Aeronautics and Astronautics from MIT – Pilot and Astronaut. Sixth man to walk on the moon (Apollo 14 mission). Patrol bomber and attack plane pilot, U.S. Navy. Test Pilot, Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 5 (VX-5). Chief of Project Management Division, Navy Field Office for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory Project. Graduated first in his class from the Aerospace Research Pilot School, and served as an instructor there. Recipient of many awards and honors including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the USN Distinguished Medal and three NASA Group Achievement Awards. Inducted to the Space Hall of Fame in 1979 and the Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1998. Recipient of honorary doctorates in engineering from New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University, and a ScD from Embry-Riddle University. Founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Endorser of and proposed Commissioner of a New Investigation into 9/11 as described in the New York City Ballot Initiative 11/08: "Petition to Create a NYC Independent Commission with Subpoena Power to Conduct a Comprehensive and Fact-Driven Investigation of All Relevant Aspects of the Tragic Events of September 11, 2001 and Issue a Report.

WHEREAS, many New York City voters believe that there remain many unanswered questions critical to establishing the truth about all relevant events leading up to, during and subsequent to the tragic attacks occurring on September 11, 2001 (“9/11”), and

WHEREAS, no prior investigation by any New York City agency or any other governmental entity has resulted in the citizens being provided with those critical answers or information necessary to establish the truth about those tragic events, ...

An independent, temporary New York City commission (the “Commission”) is hereby created to conduct a comprehensive, factdriven investigation into the events that took place on 9/11, as well as to thoroughly examine related events before and after the attacks, including any activities attempting to hide, cover up, impede or obstruct any investigation into these 9/11 events, following wherever the facts may lead. The Commission shall publish one or more reports of their findings."


Website: Ed Mitchell


Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:


"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 700 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: NASA - Dryden Flight Research Center

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Oddball]

 

[eots]

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[eots]

not at all just trying to bring some reality and perspective to toto's conspiracy theorist
straw man

 

[Toro]

the term conspiracy theorist is a straw man...what is the opposite ?..a non-conspiracy theorist ?....what kind of deluded individual would believe there are no conspiracy's in this world ?..anyone who suspects the truth is not told on any given subject could be deemed a conspiracy theorist...it appears their are astronauts involved in the moon landing and NASA that would indeed be considered conspiracy theorist by people such as toto

Those astronauts are lying because the moon landing never happened.

A conspiracy theorist is someone who is prone to believing in conspiracy theories, no matter how outlandish and outrageous the theories are. They rely primarily on conjecture and circumstantial evidence. They are not skeptics. In fact, quite the opposite. A skeptic is not one who is just skeptical of the government. A skeptic is one who is skeptical of all explanations. The conspiracy theorists are not skeptical of all explanations. They readily believe pretty much anything, no matter how bizarre, to support their preconceived conclusion, no matter how improbable. They are the opposite of the scientist or the empiricist. They lack context, perspective and understanding of randomness and probabilities, and are willing to make enormous leaps in logic to explain events that are often messy or unexplainable.

The problem with you are your ilk, eots, is not that you believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories. The problem is that most 9/11 conspiracy theorists believe a wide range of conspiracies, no matter how ridiculous, and you do not apply the same level of skepticism towards your own theories that you claim to apply to official explanations.

 

[eots]

the term conspiracy theorist is a straw man...what is the opposite ?..a non-conspiracy theorist ?....what kind of deluded individual would believe there are no conspiracy's in this world ?..anyone who suspects the truth is not told on any given subject could be deemed a conspiracy theorist...it appears their are astronauts involved in the moon landing and NASA that would indeed be considered conspiracy theorist by people such as toto

Those astronauts are lying because the moon landing never happened.

so you believe there is a conspiracy amongst the nasa astronauts...this is Toto's
conspiracy theory

A conspiracy theorist is someone who is prone to believing in conspiracy theories, no matter how outlandish and outrageous the theories are. They rely primarily on conjecture and circumstantial evidence. They are not skeptics. In fact, quite the opposite. A skeptic is not one who is just skeptical of the government. A skeptic is one who is skeptical of all explanations. The conspiracy theorists are not skeptical of all explanations. They readily believe pretty much anything, no matter how bizarre, to support their preconceived conclusion, no matter how improbable. They are the opposite of the scientist or the empiricist. They lack context, perspective and understanding of randomness and probabilities, and are willing to make enormous leaps in logic to explain events that are often messy or unexplainable.

this is nothing more than your deluded opinion..it is your conspiracy theorist ...conspiracy theory ....built on strawmen with no real foundation...

The problem with you are your ilk, eots, is not that you believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories. The problem is that most 9/11 conspiracy theorists believe

the problem with your ilk Toto is you use strawmen to hide from the reality's of 9/11

a wide range of conspiracies, no matter how ridiculous, and you do not apply the same level of skepticism towards your own theories that you claim to apply to official explanations.

yes I do as do the patriots who question 9/11...dont think for one minute these reality's where easy to accept or not some what painful and disturbing to accept


Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001




Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

Essay 9/11 and Non-investigation: "As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril. ...

Now I view the 911 event as Professor David Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor, views it: as a matter that implies either

A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...

B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..." Captain Eric May


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Terral]

Hi Toro:

I wonder if our local conspiracy theorists also believe the moon landings were a hoax.

The moon landings were faked. Period. We know by the simple evidence of the 'film' (story) that should have been destroyed in five minutes outside the earth atmosphere. The evidence simply does not add up (video).

GL,

Terral

 

[CrusaderFrank]

For the longest time I thought the Moon landing were faked because I never understood how the astronauts were supposed to survive, both in their capsule and on the lunar surface, in the solar wind once free from Earth's atmosphere.

Lately, I've been coming to the conclusion that the Apollo landing were real and that the stakes were so high NASA decided that it was worth a chance microwaving a few astronauts in the quest to see and collect what was on the Moon.

See, the Moon is an artificial satellite and was once home to an ancient civilization.

I know, it's pretty freaking amazing.

 

[random3434]

Hi Toro:

I wonder if our local conspiracy theorists also believe the moon landings were a hoax.

The moon landings were faked. Period. We know by the simple evidence of the 'film' (story) that should have been destroyed in five minutes outside the earth atmosphere. The evidence simply does not add up (video).

GL,

Terral

Houston, we have a problem.

 

[Terry]

Being I grew up in Cocoa Beach, just a few miles south of the Cape, and lived during that time..it was real!

 

[Oddball]

See, the Moon is an artificial satellite and was once home to an ancient civilization.

I know, it's pretty freaking amazing.

What?!?!???..It's not green cheese??

Well, I'll be dipped!

 

[Toro]

Hi Toro:

I wonder if our local conspiracy theorists also believe the moon landings were a hoax.

The moon landings were faked. Period. We know by the simple evidence of the 'film' (story) that should have been destroyed in five minutes outside the earth atmosphere. The evidence simply does not add up (video).

GL,

Terral

Awesome.

Thanks Terral.

 

[eots]

Hi Toro:

I wonder if our local conspiracy theorists also believe the moon landings were a hoax.

The moon landings were faked. Period. We know by the simple evidence of the 'film' (story) that should have been destroyed in five minutes outside the earth atmosphere. The evidence simply does not add up (video).

GL,

Terral

Awesome.

Thanks Terral.

so why are you thanking him Toto because you appreciate the information or because you think this helps you discredit 9/11 truth ? terrel is one person and does not speak for the men and woman of patriots question 9/11 several of them that are indeed Apollo astronauts and top nasa scientist and what of three of these apollo astrounats that claim thee government has not been forthcoming with the truth of the Apollo missions....would this not indicate a conspiracy ???

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[LA RAM FAN]

the term conspiracy theorist is a straw man...what is the opposite ?..a non-conspiracy theorist ?....what kind of deluded individual would believe there are no conspiracy's in this world ?..anyone who suspects the truth is not told on any given subject could be deemed a conspiracy theorist...it appears their are astronauts involved in the moon landing and NASA that would indeed be considered conspiracy theorist by people such as toto

Those astronauts are lying because the moon landing never happened.

A conspiracy theorist is someone who is prone to believing in conspiracy theories, no matter how outlandish and outrageous the theories are. They rely primarily on conjecture and circumstantial evidence. They are not skeptics. In fact, quite the opposite. A skeptic is not one who is just skeptical of the government. A skeptic is one who is skeptical of all explanations. The conspiracy theorists are not skeptical of all explanations. They readily believe pretty much anything, no matter how bizarre, to support their preconceived conclusion, no matter how improbable. They are the opposite of the scientist or the empiricist. They lack context, perspective and understanding of randomness and probabilities, and are willing to make enormous leaps in logic to explain events that are often messy or unexplainable.

The problem with you are your ilk, eots, is not that you believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories. The problem is that most 9/11 conspiracy theorists believe a wide range of conspiracies, no matter how ridiculous, and you do not apply the same level of skepticism towards your own theories that you claim to apply to official explanations.

that describes you Bush dupes to a tee so YOUR a conspiracy theorist.9/11 WAS a conspiracy.it involved more than one person,therfore a conspiracy.thats all you ever do when looking at 9/11 is rely on conjecture and circumstantial evidence.you believe ANYTHING the government tells you on 9/11 no matter how much it has been disproven or how bizaare their explantions are and take enourmous leaps of logic to explain those events.

what you Bush dupes dont get is that the label CONSPIRACY THEORISTS is what the government labels people who dont accept thier version of events no matter how ludicrous and absurd they are and how the facts disprove them.you yourself have said you have questions about the kennedy assassination,that their explanations for that event dont add up remember? therefore according to the government,your a conspiracy theorist. actually to answer Eots question,the opposite of a conspiracy theorist,is a coincidence theorist.In the JFK assassination and with 9/11 as well.the reason there is such a huge controversy over these events and why they just wont go away, is because the facts of the case dont fit the explanations given by the government. 80% of the population no longer believes the warren commission report that oswald was the lone assassin.,most of the country believes the CIA did it.

Is most of the population in the country a bunch of loons? more and more people are waking up every year about 9/11.its world known facts around the world it was an inside job.according to you,all these high ranking intel officers,scientists,first responders,military people,architects,firefighters,police officers,ect ect.all these people who Eots has listed time and time again that you Bush dupes constantly ignore cause you only see what you WANT to see, are relying on outlandish conspiracy theories.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hi Toro:



The moon landings were faked. Period. We know by the simple evidence of the 'film' (story) that should have been destroyed in five minutes outside the earth atmosphere. The evidence simply does not add up (video).

GL,

Terral

Awesome.

Thanks Terral.

so why are you thanking him Toto because you appreciate the information or because you think this helps you discredit 9/11 truth ? terrel is one person and does not speak for the
the men and woman of patriots question 9/11 several of them that are indeed Apollo astronauts and top nasa scientist and what of three of these apollo astrounats that claim thee government has not been forthcoming with the truth of the Apollo missions....would this not indicate a conspiracy ???

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

exactly.yeah Toto,why are you thanking Terral? Like Eots said,Terral is one person and does not speak for the men and women of patriots question 9/11 truth, so what are you thanking him for,for the information he provided you?

9/11 WAS a conspiracy instead of a a lone nut like in the JFK,RFK AND MLK assassinations.conspiracy theorists might have worked for the JFK assassination since their explanation was a lone nut,but it doesnt work for 9/11 since it involved more than one person. Like Eots said,since there are a bunch of astronauts that have been forthcoming with the truth on the Apollo missions,I guess that would be a conspiracy by the astronauts then since again,it involves more than one person being involved right?.