Situational Ethics examples

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    I am a strong believer in situational ethics. There are very few absolutes. Here are some situations. I’d like to know your opinions:Always add the link: http://gospel-herald.com/genesis_studies/situational_ethics.htm

    A German mother was committed to a Russian concentration camp. Pregnant women were considered a liability and were released. This mother found a friendly guard who sympathized with her situation and willingly impregnated her. She was released and returned to her home and raised the child as part of her reunited family. Her adultery was justified since it served to reunite her with her children and family who needed her. Doesn't the bible say that adultery is wrong?

    A young mother working as a spy for the US was asked to use her sexuality to ensnare a rival spy. When she protested that she could not put her personal integrity on the line by offering sex for hire, she was told: "It’s like your brother risking his life and limb in the war to serve his country. There is no other way." For the greater good of her country, it was the loving thing to do. Yet, prostitution is always wrong - isn't it?

    Is suicide always wrong? Does the Bible say that it is wrong to kill yourself? Then consider the following: If a man has only two choices of taking an expensive medication which will deplete his family’s finances and cause his insurance to lapse, or else refusing the medicine and living only 3 months, it is the loving thing to do to refuse the medicine and spare his family. And, non-theoretically, a German nun taking the place of a Jew in the gas chambers; or a soldier taking his own life to avoid being tortured into betraying his comrades to the enemy.

    Is abortion always wrong? An unmarried schizophrenic patient become pregnant after being raped. Her father petitioned for abortion but the hospital refused because they said it was "non-therapeutic" and therefore illegal. The father maintained that it was the loving thing to do to prevent this child’s birth. In another real situation, a Romanian Jewish doctor aborted 3000 babies of Jewish mothers in concentration camps because, if pregnant, the mothers were to be incinerated. This means that the doctor actually saved 3000 and prevented the murder of 6000. This was the loving thing to do.

    Is it always wrong to kill innocent people? a mother smothers her own crying baby to prevent her group from being discovered and killed by a band of hostile Indians. A ship’s captain orders some men thrown from an overloaded lifeboat to prevent it from sinking and killing everyone on board , thus killing a "few" for the "greater good" of the majority. Not resuscitating a monstrously deformed baby when it is birthed is the loving thing to do both for the child, for the parents, and family.
     
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    Awww. Supposedly 20 people have viewed this thread but no one has replied yet. I thought that some “absolutists” (those who are practically opposed to independent thinking and reasoning) would have posted something by now.

    Your point is taken. I should have supplied the link. How did you know that the entire post was not my creation alone? Oh well.
     
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    Gee, the 8th graders ask that a lot, when they get a 0, for plagarism! :teeth:
     
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    Shouldn't that read self-centered sophistry and rationalization ?
     
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    sophistry - a deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in the hope of deceiving someone.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sophistry

    Nope. It doesn't seem to fit but thanks for the funny Ad hominem. Now, how about giving some rebuttals to the examples in the actual post.
     
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    It seems no one is interested, get over it. But do include links when you use others' material. ;)
     
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    Absolutist metaphysics leave no room for humanity in the rendering of decisions. Thus, within the context of these absolutist metaphysics, any attrocity can be committed in the name of one's favorite deity or, for the secularists, the state.
     
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    Moral standards are standards that exist to be referenced in standard situations. Weird ass concocted bullcrap scenarios come up only rarely. In our legal system we deal with this with the concept of the "extenuating circumstance". Notice we don't ditch our whole legal system?
     
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    OK Matt, since you don't have any takers I'll give a shot at it.

    "A German mother was committed to a Russian concentration camp. Pregnant women were considered a liability and were released. This mother found a friendly guard who sympathized with her situation and willingly impregnated her. She was released and returned to her home and raised the child as part of her reunited family. Her adultery was justified since it served to reunite her with her children and family who needed her. Doesn't the bible say that adultery is wrong?"

    Depends on what her husband thinks. If he's OK with it it's fine. If not she's a slut.

    "A young mother working as a spy for the US was asked to use her sexuality to ensnare a rival spy. When she protested that she could not put her personal integrity on the line by offering sex for hire, she was told: "It’s like your brother risking his life and limb in the war to serve his country. There is no other way." For the greater good of her country, it was the loving thing to do. Yet, prostitution is always wrong - isn't it?"

    Spies give up absolute ethics. It's part of their job. It's like saying violence is a sin. Well maybe, but not if your job is boxer. She can do it because it fits her job description.

    "Is suicide always wrong? Does the Bible say that it is wrong to kill yourself? Then consider the following: If a man has only two choices of taking an expensive medication which will deplete his family’s finances and cause his insurance to lapse, or else refusing the medicine and living only 3 months, it is the loving thing to do to refuse the medicine and spare his family. And, non-theoretically, a German nun taking the place of a Jew in the gas chambers; or a soldier taking his own life to avoid being tortured into betraying his comrades to the enemy. "

    Suicide is not always wrong. It's not universally considered a sin or wrong. In many parts of Asia it is considered the proper thing to do in certain situations.

    "Is abortion always wrong? An unmarried schizophrenic patient become pregnant after being raped. Her father petitioned for abortion but the hospital refused because they said it was "non-therapeutic" and therefore illegal. The father maintained that it was the loving thing to do to prevent this child’s birth. In another real situation, a Romanian Jewish doctor aborted 3000 babies of Jewish mothers in concentration camps because, if pregnant, the mothers were to be incinerated. This means that the doctor actually saved 3000 and prevented the murder of 6000. This was the loving thing to do."

    Even most of the fanatics think make exceptions in the case of rape. This is a tough question.

    "Is it always wrong to kill innocent people? a mother smothers her own crying baby to prevent her group from being discovered and killed by a band of hostile Indians. A ship’s captain orders some men thrown from an overloaded lifeboat to prevent it from sinking and killing everyone on board , thus killing a "few" for the "greater good" of the majority. Not resuscitating a monstrously deformed baby when it is birthed is the loving thing to do both for the child, for the parents, and family."

    :dunno: :dunno: A captain has a duty to make the right decision that goes beyond conventional morality. The mother did the right thing because less people die that way. The world doesn't need a deformed baby.
     

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