Sit Down

[TheParser]

The police are a necessary evil.

There are so many vicious human beings in this country that we need the police.

E,g., just read this morning a woman has been awarded $45,000,000. Why? Seems two teenagers at a mall thought it would be jolly fun to throw a shopping cart at her.

Neither you nor I would have been able to capture those two "human beings."

 

[JakeStarkey]

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And why do you say that?

Because it's the same Lame ass rhetoric of, "White people have to listen to us, and agree with us; or else you're a racist and shouldn't be allowed to speak on the subject". ....

Isn't that a similar thing to what Muslims says about kafir?

Sigh.

 

[miketx]

From the book I"m currently reading:

"Jesse Williams, when he received a Humanitarian Award from BET, addressed police misconduct, stating that “police somehow manage to deescalate, disarm and not kill white people every day.” I don’t want to hear about how far we’ve come when paid public servants can pull a drive-by on a 12 year old playing alone in the park in broad daylight, killing him on television and then going home to make a sandwich.”

He criticized white folk who criticize black social movements like BLM, saying that “if you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest in equal rights for black people, then do not make suggestions for those who do. Sit down.”

I totally agree. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves were silent when they should have spoken up. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves speak only when they disagree with the methods chosen for resistance. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves watched silently for years as oppression persisted and their whiteness protected them from it.

Black don't want to cooperate with police. They deserve what they get. I avoid them like the evil they are.

 

[MaryL]

I just saw a PBS program on the the anti Chinese hysteria that swept America in the 1880's in California and the Chinese exclusionary laws as a allegory of current immigration laws. Not buying it, neither am I accepting Jim crow laws as a one size excuse for current black dysfunctional culture. Nice try though, but reset to the present tense. Those round pegs of the past aren't quite fitting into the present square holes.

You are an example of the dysfunction in the white community. It doesn't matter what you buy or accept.

Eye roll. The universe doesn't exactly hold it's breath over your sophistry
and blacksplaing dysfunctional black culture, either, kiddo. Don't let that stop you. Egotists rarely let facts get in the way.

 

[JakeStarkey]

IM2 has ruled this thread, easily gutting the alt right racialist nonsense.

Nope, we are not going back to the fifties.

 

[IM2]

I just saw a PBS program on the the anti Chinese hysteria that swept America in the 1880's in California and the Chinese exclusionary laws as a allegory of current immigration laws. Not buying it, neither am I accepting Jim crow laws as a one size excuse for current black dysfunctional culture. Nice try though, but reset to the present tense. Those round pegs of the past aren't quite fitting into the present square holes.

You are an example of the dysfunction in the white community. It doesn't matter what you buy or accept.

Eye roll. The universe doesn't exactly hold it's breath over your sophistry
and blacksplaing dysfunctional black culture, either, kiddo. Don't let that stop you. Egotists rarely let facts get in the way.

 

[IM2]

From the book I"m currently reading:

"Jesse Williams, when he received a Humanitarian Award from BET, addressed police misconduct, stating that “police somehow manage to deescalate, disarm and not kill white people every day.” I don’t want to hear about how far we’ve come when paid public servants can pull a drive-by on a 12 year old playing alone in the park in broad daylight, killing him on television and then going home to make a sandwich.”

He criticized white folk who criticize black social movements like BLM, saying that “if you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest in equal rights for black people, then do not make suggestions for those who do. Sit down.”

I totally agree. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves were silent when they should have spoken up. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves speak only when they disagree with the methods chosen for resistance. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves watched silently for years as oppression persisted and their whiteness protected them from it.

Black don't want to cooperate with police. They deserve what they get. I avoid them like the evil they are.

 

[LOIE]

From the book I"m currently reading:

"Jesse Williams, when he received a Humanitarian Award from BET, addressed police misconduct, stating that “police somehow manage to deescalate, disarm and not kill white people every day.” I don’t want to hear about how far we’ve come when paid public servants can pull a drive-by on a 12 year old playing alone in the park in broad daylight, killing him on television and then going home to make a sandwich.”

He criticized white folk who criticize black social movements like BLM, saying that “if you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest in equal rights for black people, then do not make suggestions for those who do. Sit down.”

I totally agree. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves were silent when they should have spoken up. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves speak only when they disagree with the methods chosen for resistance. Too many who criticize oppressed people's efforts to stand up for themselves watched silently for years as oppression persisted and their whiteness protected them from it.

Black don't want to cooperate with police. They deserve what they get. I avoid them like the evil they are.

Wow. I just spoke with a black woman in her 50's. Her son had just been beat up by the cops and hospitalized about a month ago. She got stopped by the cops supposedly for a broken light. She was so nervous, she put her hands on the steering wheel and kept saying, "I'm cooperating. I'm cooperating." She was, is not evil. She's a real sweetheart but after what happened to her son, she was scared to death of the police.

 

[LOIE]

move to a poor black ghetto or Hispanic barrio, and then see how that works o

I actually did that in the 1970's. Spent 7 years working with a Christian Youth Organization helping young people. After that I stayed in the area and got married. I've often thought it would be a great thing for white folks who fled inner cities to move back in and help people. Not to take over or move black folks out, but to work with them to make a better living environment. They could bring their resources and connections with them.

When my kids were little I took them to a neighborhood pool. The life guards were drinking and paying no attention to the swimmers. There was a black lady there who said she had called the city rec department to complain numerous times, but no one ever responded. I went home that day and called, explaining the situation to a man on the phone. "I'm so sorry," he said, "we hate to see someone like you having to go through that." The next say supervisors came to the pool. City departments respond quicker to a white voice on the phone.

I still live in a largely black neighborhood and find it quite beautiful. But then my definition of beautiful may be different than others.